2022 NBA Draft

NYPiston · Post #721 » by **NYPiston** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:15 am

yoyoboy wrote:Banchero's defense hasn't impressed me though. What's the consensus on him on that end of the floor for people who have watched him this year?

A work in progress but I don't get why people make such a big deal of it. He has offensive gifts that you can't teach, defense can be learned over time.

akhan786 · Post #722 » by **akhan786** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:17 am

yoyoboy wrote:Banchero's defense hasn't impressed me though. What's the consensus on him on that end of the floor for people who have watched him this year?

Imo he has 70% of the lateral/vertical tools of Ben Simmons but conserves his energy right now because Duke has a good defense.

Idk if he’ll ever give 100% but will still come up with big plays when it’s time to lock in at the end of the game. Also it’s his first year playing at this weight so it’s possible he could add more agility/explosion.

crows2 · Post #723 » by **crows2** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:21 am

yoyoboy wrote:I might have to reevaluate my perception of Banchero lol. This is my first time watching a game of his and he looks great.

Odd that you had such a strong opinion of Banchero in the Jabari thread if you’d never seen a game of his.

yoyoboy · Post #724 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:25 am

crows2 wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:I might have to reevaluate my perception of Banchero lol. This is my first time watching a game of his and he looks great.

Odd that you had such a strong opinion of Banchero in the Jabari thread if you’d never seen a game of his.

Strong opinion? I still wouldn't put Banchero ahead of Jabari. All I said was I was dumbfounded why everyone had Banchero ranked above him based on what I'd seen from the highlights/numbers of both (and based on what we know of which player archetypes tend to have the most impact in the NBA). And that has more to do with how Jabari looks. I didn't trash the kid, relax.

Saints14 · Post #725 » by **Saints14** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:28 am

Mark Williams looks really good too. Probably no star potential at the next level but he certainly looks like an NBA center that can have a long career as a role player

yoyoboy · Post #726 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:29 am

Saints14 wrote:Mark Williams looks really good too. Probably no star potential at the next level but he certainly looks like an NBA center that can have a long career as a role player

My thoughts, as well. Impressed with the energy he brings defending the rim.

crows2 · Post #727 » by **crows2** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:30 am

yoyoboy wrote:
crows2 wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:I might have to reevaluate my perception of Banchero lol. This is my first time watching a game of his and he looks great.

Odd that you had such a strong opinion of Banchero in the Jabari thread if you’d never seen a game of his.

Strong opinion? I still wouldn't put Banchero ahead of Jabari. All I said was I was dumbfounded why everyone had Banchero ranked above him based on what I'd seen from the highlights/numbers of both (and based on what we know of which player archetypes tend to have the most impact in the NBA). And that has more to do with how Jabari looks. I didn't trash the kid, relax.

Saying you were “dumbfounded“ why a consensus top 3 prospect was ranked alongside another top 3 prospect is a strong opinion, yeah (particularly when you’d never watched a game of his).

NYSixersFan · Post #728 » by **NYSixersFan** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:37 am

My first time seeing Banchero and Holmgren...anyone drafting Holmgren over Banchero with that body needs to be drug tested.

MemphisX · Post #729 » by **MemphisX** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:40 am

Idc...this game is going to leave a lasting image in NBA decision makers head.

NaturalThunder · Post #730 » by **NaturalThunder** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:43 am

NYSixersFan wrote:My first time seeing Banchero and Holmgren...anyone drafting Holmgren over Banchero with that body needs to be drug tested.

Same here. I've watched bits and pieces of some of Gonzaga's late night marquee matchups against UCLA and Villanova before falling asleep, but this is my first Duke game to watch this year. I can definitely see the tantalizing upside of Holmgren, but based purely on the first half of this game...Banchero seems like the runaway, no-brainer #1 pick. He has an NBA ready body and his skillset at his size is already great. I mean I guess you could argue Banchero's floor is higher than Holmgren's, but Holmgren's ceiling is higher, but I don't know...as a Thunder fan, if they can "suck" enough and the ping-pong balls fall their way and they got the #1 pick, I'd definitely want them to take Banchero.

MotownMadness · Post #731 » by **MotownMadness** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:45 am

NaturalThunder wrote:
NYSixersFan wrote:My first time seeing Banchero and Holmgren...anyone drafting Holmgren over Banchero with that body needs to be drug tested.

Same here. I've watched bits and pieces of some of Gonzaga's late night marquee matchups against UCLA and Villanova before falling asleep, but this is my first Duke game to watch this year. I can definitely see the tantalizing upside of Holmgren, but based purely on the first half of this game...Banchero seems like the runaway, no-brainer #1 pick. He has an NBA ready body and his skillset at his size is already great. I mean I guess you could argue Banchero's floor is higher than Holmgren's, but Holmgren's ceiling is higher, but I don't know...as a Thunder fan, if they can "suck" enough and the ping-pong balls fall their way and they got the #1 pick, I'd definitely want them to take Banchero.

Banchero had a efficient 28 in his last game too

yoyoboy · Post #732 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:49 am

crows2 wrote:
yoyoboy wrote:
crows2 wrote:
Odd that you had such a strong opinion of Banchero in the Jabari thread if you’d never seen a game of his.

Strong opinion? I still wouldn't put Banchero ahead of Jabari. All I said was I was dumbfounded why everyone had Banchero ranked above him based on what I'd seen from the highlights/numbers of both (and based on what we know of which player archetypes tend to have the most impact in the NBA). And that has more to do with how Jabari looks. I didn't trash the kid, relax.

Saying you were “dumbfounded“ why a consensus top 3 prospect was ranked alongside another top 3 prospect is a strong opinion, yeah (particularly when you’d never watched a game of his).

Ahead, not alongside, which I fully maintain even after watching Banchero light it up in this half because Jabari is impressive on both ends. Think you're getting way too caught up in your own interpretation of what "dumbfounded" means, as if I was saying Banchero sucks. Just saying, I was pretty adamant how ridiculous it was that Cade was sort of automatically slotted as the #1 consensus despite all the obvious question marks and I had Mobley, Scottie, and Sengun ahead. That's looking pretty good so far. In general I think people need to be more willing to question the "consensus guys" and develop their own opinions of the class.

yoyoboy · Post #733 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:51 am

What are your guys' thought on Timme? Think he can carve himself out a nice role in the league?

NYSixersFan · Post #734 » by **NYSixersFan** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:53 am

Holmgren reminds me of a combination of Porzingis and Shawn Bradley.

clyde21 · Post #735 » by **clyde21** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:00 am

this is like the third time this yr Banchero cramps up mid game

clyde21 · Post #736 » by **clyde21** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:08 am

Chet needs to close this one out while Paolo's cramped out

yoyoboy · Post #737 » by **yoyoboy** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:14 am

Coach K is getting outcoached. How do you not get your players to get back on defense after like the 8-9th time Zaga beats you back after a made basket?

clyde21 · Post #738 » by **clyde21** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:14 am

yoyoboy wrote:What are your guys' thought on Timme? Think he can carve himself out a nice role in the league?

nah, too small and doesn't have the any real ball skills in space.

clyde21 · Post #739 » by **clyde21** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:20 am

that was a such a beautiful cut by Chet, good hands too catching that low pass

Post #740 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:25 am

Just have to say. These are The two best teams in college.

What a great college basketball game. I also love the versatile offense you still get with the best college teams. Not just spamming 3pt shots like you see in the NBA.

What a great game