Funcrusher wrote:King Ken wrote:Funcrusher wrote:nothing says trolling like saying RJ is a unique talent
and another thing. i respond to your outlandish takes, try to elaborate and provide points of reference, you choose to not actually respond to my points and im the troll? is this just your defensive mechanism against anyone that challenges you on your bull?
He is an unique talent.
His athleticism is in the 90% percentile. His A/T, assists, and a/ratio is elite for a freshman SG and his assists is elite for any SG as well as his PnR handler scores which are generational.
He also takes 6.2 threes a game which speaks well from the fact that we can review how to shoot different types of threes. When someone shots 3.5 or less. Most of the time, it's one type of three pointer. Open or contested and it doesn't give us the detail we need to see if they can translate to the next level.
He plays with good BBIQ which is shown in his foul rate. Now he clearly has some issues for off-ball defense but that can be improved in time.
I am not seeing DeRozan - horrendous shooter, mid range was everything, overly relied on athleticism and FT draws for his scoring and was severely limited. Not to mention, he was a bad defender at USC. Both on and off the ball.
Shabazz - Poor shooter who struggled to beat defenders off of the dribble who game was based exclusively on bully ball and high usage. Also, was a criminal passer. Had horrendous passing chops and defensive abilities were next level awful.
Barnes - Average college player who strengths were three point shooting, size, and ability to draw fouls. He can couldn't score in the paint, he was a bad man defender and while good off of the ball defensively, he didn't really really have a positive impact on D. His assists were horrendous and he was an underwhelming rebounder for a forward. He was a 3/D prospect, nothing like R.J.
Like I said, you really aren't worth my time.
You don't ever know what you are talking about.
R.J. has proven he is an upper tier NBA level scorer and passer as a prospect. If you can't see that much, you aren't worth much of my time.
yet i notice you and-1 my posts multiple times. FOH with this ish, this is what you do when someone challenges your cockamamie opinions, you get defensive and start hurling insults.
as far as your points, just about everything is wrong. His athleticism isn't in the 90% percentile, it doesn't matter that he shoots a lot of threes because he's not and probably will never be a good shooter off the dribble, his A/TO is good but nowhere near elite, his foul rate in college wasn't anything special, his BBIQ is ok but he's extremely predictable in how he attacks in the half court (throw his arm in the defenders chest to clear space and bulldoze his way to the rim to finish with his left). im pretty damn sure his "PnR handler scores" weren't generational, seriously WTF? Like, it just sounds like you're making things up as you go along. And i was comparing RJ to those guys based purely on physical profile, though his game is eerily similar to current Barnes.
seriously, don't tell me i don't ever know what i'm talking about and then respond with this crap.
I give everyone And1s on this subforum. Everyone. It's means nothing to get one from me. I don't even have to agree with you. I've been explained why I do it too. I feel everyone is entitled to an opinion and if you are going to provide in detail even in disagreement on here and it's fully thoughtful, I will give you or anyone an And1. Doesn't change the fact that you are trolling on this subject.
His athleticism is in the 90% percentile via Synergy. Jackson Hoy mentioned it in his last podcast for thestepien. It does matter for shooting a solid volume of threes as we have a chart of different types of shots and how he shoots them. We don't have a blank slate. We know what type of shooter he at this stage.
His A/TO is elite for a freshman SG. Look at all prospects who mark as SG/SF or just wings in general. He is at the top of the list. He is even very high for non-freshman wings as well especially considering his SOS. He's a top tier passing prospect for a wing. His FTA rate is 6 a game which is generally above average but for his usage and MPG, it's average for a wing prospect. Not abysmal. A tier above D'Angelo Russell as a prospect but a tier below your DeRozan's of the world. Not near the Bradley Beal's of the world and far from Gordon Hayward's, Wiggins, and D. Wade's of the world as prospects. He is in the same range with Donovan Mitchell as a prospect for FTA rates.
His BBIQ was the best on his team offensively outside of Tre Jones who has legit NBA BBIQ. To say it's decent is an understatement. Once again, a bad cold take. He uses his athleticism a lot at this stage as college is extremely difficult to use skill due to how they ref the games. He does bully game with his straight drive to finish with the left hand. I don't see that not being his bread and butter at the next level either, I just don't see it being all that effective. Which is why his passing and PnR handler ability will open up his scoring as well as NBA spacing for his athletic ability.
I don't see those guys in the same league of athlete that R.J. is. He is a herky jerky athlete but he is a special athlete. As Jackson Hoy said, it will be effective at the next level but it's not like anything we seen before. It's not smooth like MJ. It's not bouncy like Rose or Wade or what we call the Chicago style that guys like them, Jabari Parker and guys like that have. It's his elite straight line speed with and without the ball with power due to having a terrific frame which should round out to about the frame we see him Jimmy Butler which is around 215-220 in his prime. Butler lost some weight in the NBA to gain more athletic ability. He's mainly 215-220 these days. His frame is one of his best features as it compliments his playing style. Wiggins comes to mind as he is an elite speed guy with and without the ball. Wiggins is a clearly better athlete than Barrett as we seen in his FTA rate at KU but Barrett has a better body. Just a more bulky frame which will allow Barrett to add more good weight which goes to the broad shoulders, hips and backside which is critical for the style of play from Barrett. These things are critical as everyone at this level works to a degree but limitations is what hampers expectations for many guys.
Lastly, he is a high end PnR handler. That's pretty important because in the NBA. They will get a lot more chance for these actions than in the NCAAs. This is where guys like Beal really improved and why they became so effective at the next level over time. R.J. already is advanced in this area from the data and the eye test. This is why I think R.J. is a no brainer. R.J. work will be ahead of him. To become an Net 0 defensive player will be huge for him but Day 1, I think he can have major impact on the offensive end. I think he is one of the better wing prospects in sometime. His ability to score, pass and dribble really makes him a modern fit at SG for many teams. I think he will shoot the ball better than many expect. He is also so good in transition and off of the screen, that he will scored 16-18PPG with most teams to go with 5-6 APG and 5-6 RPG. He is a special prospect and when he develops his half court game, I can see a special prospect. His passing is his best quality and what a lot of people projecting him are missing on and when teams work him out and see his passing, this value will skyrocket. He is clearly NOT a PG but he can be a #1 option. That's where I think a lot of people are down on him. They don't think he's a #1. I think his passing opens up his offensive scoring game.
He doesn't have the foul drawing ability but he is a lot closer as a prospect to James Harden than he gets credit for especially considering James was nearly a year older as a draft pick.
https://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/steve-nash-raves-rj-barrett-after-rough-game/489889
my goodness you are awful. 
