Cameron Boozer

[FrodoBaggins]

What about this comparison from E-Balla?

Boozer is a less athletic C. Webb with a deeper jumper and that's not buns from the freethrow line to me.

[Benjammin]

C. Webb was an A+ athletically and Boozer being very generous is a B/B+ so no.

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[Duke4life831]

I get the raw stats still look fine, but ya what he showed when he faced up with teams that have guys that have equal size to him. Nothing came easy for him. Everything just seemed like a struggle. Scoring wise he really has 2 options, pick and pop or head down china shop in the paint. And when he went up against a team like Virginia who has size and shot blocking, he had 0 presence in the paint in those games.

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Again strictly speaking from an NBA standpoint (I love the dude at the college level), Im taking AJ, Peterson, Acuff, Wilson all ahead of him with no hesitation.

I understand some hesitation about Boozer, though I will note that he had plenty of good games against teams with NBA size. What I struggle with is the idea that Boozer's struggles in certain match-ups hurt his stock tremendously – but what about the players you'd take ahead of him? They all have match-ups that cause them problems or have games in which they impact the game very little.

I can't help but feel that Boozer tends to be overanalyzed compared to others because of his playing style. Whereas every bad game is emphasized for him, others are judged more based more on their good games or flashes. A focus on what a player is not rather than what a player could be. And to be clear, I'm not even a particularly big fan of Boozer and do see his limitations clearly. I see them clearly for the other players, too, though.

I'm all in favor for changing ones opinion when new information come in or we reflect on existing information and impressions and reach different conclusions. But those are two extreme swings for a person who has watched Boozer extensively all year. I'm not quite sure what to make of that. I personally don't think that these last weeks have revealed anything about Boozer that wasn't already known.

To be fair, this has basically been my view on Boozer since he was in high school. My view has always basically been, I think he either has to become a superstar offensive hub. Or between his inability to defend in space to go with the majority of his scoring coming from low post below the rim work. That if he doesn’t bring star value, I don’t really see him being a fit to start at the 4 for most teams. If he’s not going to be a hub, I think teams would rather have a versatile defender that spreads the floor. And his role would be more in line of like how a Bobby Portis is used.

Then he had that stretch in late February and March where he was just a machine. His shooting splits were something along the lines of 60/50/80 and everything just looked so easy. And I said, screw it. I guess it would be worth taking the bet on him becoming that superstar offensive hub.

Then Pat got hurt and what that ended doing was, teams could then put their best big man defender on Boozer. Because most college teams don’t have multiple strong and big bigs to defend both Pat and Boozer. And with boozer’s ability to step out to the perimeter. Most teams chose to keep their big on Pat, because Duke would just lob balls to Pat whenever they put a non big on him.

And when that happened, his raw stats looked almost the same 22/10/4 vs 21/10/4. But he went from having 58/40 shooting splits with a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio. To 44/32 shooting splits and a 1:1 assist to turnover ratio.

It was double the turnover rate, his TS% dropped 10%. The super efficient, everything looking so easy, while cranking out ridiculous production kind of faded away. Don’t get me wrong, from a college standpoint, the dude was still damn good.

But seeing him go against the kind of size and defenders he’d see basically every game. The non ability to shoot off the dribble, the below the rim low post stuff started to become inefficient. I’m just no longer willing to bet that he’s going to figure out how to be that superstar offensive hub

[Duke4life831]

What about this comparison from E-Balla?

Boozer is a less athletic C. Webb with a deeper jumper and that's not buns from the freethrow line to me.

I just think that’s too drastic of a difference in athleticism to use that comp.

Webber’s athleticism to go with his size, was one of the main attributes that made Webber, Webber. It’s also not just the athleticism, it was the ball handling to go with that athleticism.

Boozer has a solid, but very basic handle. By no means would anyone describe it as a dynamic handle. So if you take away that on ball dynamic ability away from Webber. You’re talking just a drastically different player

[FrodoBaggins]

Karl Malone was an awkward finisher inside. Comparable to Cameron Boozer in this respect?

However, Karl was saddled with a major offensive weakness: a low release point. Despite scoring on a smorgasbord of difficult outside shots, he struggled finishing around the rim against other bigs. To overcome his low release points and lack of verticality, he would create space with his left shoulder/hip in order to flip an attempt up with his right hand. The result looked something like this:

Watch on YouTube

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He made some of these shot-puts and was fouled on others, but this shortcoming limited his otherwise devastating interior presence. What Shaq would thunderously dunk, Malone would flip toward the hoop and hope to find a friendly roll.

This meant that, despite his reputation, Karl wasn’t an elite roll man in the pick-and-roll. If he had enough space and momentum, he could power his way to the line or in for a dunk, but on many occasions he was limited by T-Rexing shots in traffic. (He was a better pick-and-pop player.) Ironically, this also meant that his shift to an outside-based game didn’t erode his efficiency.3 And contrary to belief, Malone didn’t have many baskets created for him either. Mostly, he scored a lot out of good-ol’ isolation.

https://thinkingbasketball.net/2018/02/08/backpicks-goat-13-karl-malone/

They're both listed at 6-9 and 250 lbs in college. Freshman Malone averaged 20.9 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 0.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg, 3.3 topg on .582% FG, .623% FT, .599% TS. A very strong .654 FTr. Cameron averaged 22.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.6 bpg, 2.5 topg on .556% FG, .391% 3PT, .615% 2PT, .607% eFG, .789% FT, .653% TS. A .536 FTr, or .733 2PT FTr when excluding 3PT FGAs.

Malone is clearly a superior athlete at the same age, but not nearly as skilled as a ball handler, passer, and shooter (relative to era) per the differences in APG, TOPG, and FT%.

It has to be the older, less athletic, but more skilled version of Malone in the late '90s that became a great passer and shooter if a comparison is to be made. But he never handled the ball or shot the three like Cameron at any point in his lengthy career. Barkley, Webber, Garnett, Juwan Howard, Antoine Walker, and others did to varying degrees of success.

[Duke4life831]

Karl Malone was an awkward finisher inside. Comparable to Cameron Boozer in this respect?

However, Karl was saddled with a major offensive weakness: a low release point. Despite scoring on a smorgasbord of difficult outside shots, he struggled finishing around the rim against other bigs. To overcome his low release points and lack of verticality, he would create space with his left shoulder/hip in order to flip an attempt up with his right hand. The result looked something like this:

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

He made some of these shot-puts and was fouled on others, but this shortcoming limited his otherwise devastating interior presence. What Shaq would thunderously dunk, Malone would flip toward the hoop and hope to find a friendly roll.

This meant that, despite his reputation, Karl wasn’t an elite roll man in the pick-and-roll. If he had enough space and momentum, he could power his way to the line or in for a dunk, but on many occasions he was limited by T-Rexing shots in traffic. (He was a better pick-and-pop player.) Ironically, this also meant that his shift to an outside-based game didn’t erode his efficiency.3 And contrary to belief, Malone didn’t have many baskets created for him either. Mostly, he scored a lot out of good-ol’ isolation.

https://thinkingbasketball.net/2018/02/08/backpicks-goat-13-karl-malone/

They're both listed at 6-9 and 250 lbs in college. Freshman Malone averaged 20.9 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 0.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg, 3.3 topg on .582% FG, .623% FT, .599% TS. A very strong .654 FTr. Cameron averaged 22.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.6 bpg, 2.5 topg on .556% FG, .391% 3PT, .615% 2PT, .607% eFG, .789% FT, .653% TS. A .536 FTr, or .733 2PT FTr when excluding 3PT FGAs.

Malone is clearly a superior athlete at the same age, but not nearly as skilled as a ball handler, passer, and shooter (relative to era) per the differences in APG, TOPG, and FT%.

It has to be the older, less athletic, but more skilled version of Malone in the late '90s that became a great passer and shooter if a comparison is to be made. But he never handled the ball or shot the three like Cameron at any point in his lengthy career. Barkley, Webber, Garnett, Juwan Howard, Antoine Walker, and others did to varying degrees of success.

This has always been my issue with Cam though. All the closest comps are guys that were pre 2015. Basically pre the shift away from the classic Power Forward, to now the more modern NBA 4.

If we were still in the age of guys like ZBo, Aldridge, Timberwolves Love, Carlos Boozer, Brand and so on. Ya I’d take Cam #1. Because I’d view him as the ideal version of all of those guys.

But the question has to be asked, why don’t we see those kinds of players anymore? Did we just have a decade + of those kinds of players just not existing? Or did the new pace and space era make those guys extinct?

I get Cam can hit the 3, but it’s not like he’s some elite shooter. Again the majority of his game is what he does in the paint.

So the question becomes, in today’s modern era, what will teams rather roll the dice on? Cam who is a strict 4, not a good defender out in space and is primarily a low post below the rim scorer, but can step out and hit the 3. Or a 4 that can give spot minutes at the 5 as a rim protector, and you believe within some years you can get him to a 36-37% 3pt shooter. Or a 4/3 combo who can switch defensively and his primary offense is from the perimeter?

Teams over the last decade have clearly chosen the latter 2 options. Over the bruising position locked 4 who don’t move their feet like a perimeter player.

[Benjammin]

Brand was also much longer and much stronger than Boozer. Unless it's a team like the Pacers that aren't looking for a first option, most teams will take AJ/DP and then evaluate Boozer against Wilson's potential upside.

[FrodoBaggins]

Karl Malone was an awkward finisher inside. Comparable to Cameron Boozer in this respect?

However, Karl was saddled with a major offensive weakness: a low release point. Despite scoring on a smorgasbord of difficult outside shots, he struggled finishing around the rim against other bigs. To overcome his low release points and lack of verticality, he would create space with his left shoulder/hip in order to flip an attempt up with his right hand. The result looked something like this:

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

Watch on YouTube

He made some of these shot-puts and was fouled on others, but this shortcoming limited his otherwise devastating interior presence. What Shaq would thunderously dunk, Malone would flip toward the hoop and hope to find a friendly roll.

This meant that, despite his reputation, Karl wasn’t an elite roll man in the pick-and-roll. If he had enough space and momentum, he could power his way to the line or in for a dunk, but on many occasions he was limited by T-Rexing shots in traffic. (He was a better pick-and-pop player.) Ironically, this also meant that his shift to an outside-based game didn’t erode his efficiency.3 And contrary to belief, Malone didn’t have many baskets created for him either. Mostly, he scored a lot out of good-ol’ isolation.

https://thinkingbasketball.net/2018/02/08/backpicks-goat-13-karl-malone/

They're both listed at 6-9 and 250 lbs in college. Freshman Malone averaged 20.9 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 0.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg, 3.3 topg on .582% FG, .623% FT, .599% TS. A very strong .654 FTr. Cameron averaged 22.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.6 bpg, 2.5 topg on .556% FG, .391% 3PT, .615% 2PT, .607% eFG, .789% FT, .653% TS. A .536 FTr, or .733 2PT FTr when excluding 3PT FGAs.

Malone is clearly a superior athlete at the same age, but not nearly as skilled as a ball handler, passer, and shooter (relative to era) per the differences in APG, TOPG, and FT%.

It has to be the older, less athletic, but more skilled version of Malone in the late '90s that became a great passer and shooter if a comparison is to be made. But he never handled the ball or shot the three like Cameron at any point in his lengthy career. Barkley, Webber, Garnett, Juwan Howard, Antoine Walker, and others did to varying degrees of success.

This has always been my issue with Cam though. All the closest comps are guys that were pre 2015. Basically pre the shift away from the classic Power Forward, to now the more modern NBA 4.

If we were still in the age of guys like ZBo, Aldridge, Timberwolves Love, Carlos Boozer, Brand and so on. Ya I’d take Cam #1. Because I’d view him as the ideal version of all of those guys.

But the question has to be asked, why don’t we see those kinds of players anymore? Did we just have a decade + of those kinds of players just not existing? Or did the new pace and space era make those guys extinct?

I get Cam can hit the 3, but it’s not like he’s some elite shooter. Again the majority of his game is what he does in the paint.

So the question becomes, in today’s modern era, what will teams rather roll the dice on? Cam who is a strict 4, not a good defender out in space and is primarily a low post below the rim scorer, but can step out and hit the 3. Or a 4 that can give spot minutes at the 5 as a rim protector, and you believe within some years you can get him to a 36-37% 3pt shooter. Or a 4/3 combo who can switch defensively and his primary offense is from the perimeter?

Teams over the last decade have clearly chosen the latter 2 options. Over the bruising position locked 4 who don’t move their feet like a perimeter player.

All qualifying NBA PFs averaging over 10.0 ppg per Basketball Reference:



Which would you say are the most similar to Cameron Boozer? I think the fact that Siakam, Banchero, and Randle exist and are high up bodes well for him. I also think the idea that the traditional PF has died is a little outdated, with the tactical re-emphasis on offensive rebounding and dual-big lineups.

[King Ken]

What about this comparison from E-Balla?

Boozer is a less athletic C. Webb with a deeper jumper and that's not buns from the freethrow line to me.

That's excluding 60% of his best qualities. I had made this comp awhile back but removed it as I scouted Boozer a lot more.

[Duke4life831]

Karl Malone was an awkward finisher inside. Comparable to Cameron Boozer in this respect?



They're both listed at 6-9 and 250 lbs in college. Freshman Malone averaged 20.9 ppg, 10.3 rpg, 0.4 apg, 1.9 spg, 0.7 bpg, 3.3 topg on .582% FG, .623% FT, .599% TS. A very strong .654 FTr. Cameron averaged 22.5 ppg, 10.2 rpg, 4.1 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.6 bpg, 2.5 topg on .556% FG, .391% 3PT, .615% 2PT, .607% eFG, .789% FT, .653% TS. A .536 FTr, or .733 2PT FTr when excluding 3PT FGAs.

Malone is clearly a superior athlete at the same age, but not nearly as skilled as a ball handler, passer, and shooter (relative to era) per the differences in APG, TOPG, and FT%.

It has to be the older, less athletic, but more skilled version of Malone in the late '90s that became a great passer and shooter if a comparison is to be made. But he never handled the ball or shot the three like Cameron at any point in his lengthy career. Barkley, Webber, Garnett, Juwan Howard, Antoine Walker, and others did to varying degrees of success.

This has always been my issue with Cam though. All the closest comps are guys that were pre 2015. Basically pre the shift away from the classic Power Forward, to now the more modern NBA 4.

If we were still in the age of guys like ZBo, Aldridge, Timberwolves Love, Carlos Boozer, Brand and so on. Ya I’d take Cam #1. Because I’d view him as the ideal version of all of those guys.

But the question has to be asked, why don’t we see those kinds of players anymore? Did we just have a decade + of those kinds of players just not existing? Or did the new pace and space era make those guys extinct?

I get Cam can hit the 3, but it’s not like he’s some elite shooter. Again the majority of his game is what he does in the paint.

So the question becomes, in today’s modern era, what will teams rather roll the dice on? Cam who is a strict 4, not a good defender out in space and is primarily a low post below the rim scorer, but can step out and hit the 3. Or a 4 that can give spot minutes at the 5 as a rim protector, and you believe within some years you can get him to a 36-37% 3pt shooter. Or a 4/3 combo who can switch defensively and his primary offense is from the perimeter?

Teams over the last decade have clearly chosen the latter 2 options. Over the bruising position locked 4 who don’t move their feet like a perimeter player.

All qualifying NBA PFs averaging over 10.0 ppg per Basketball Reference:



Which would you say are the most similar to Cameron Boozer? I think the fact that Siakam, Banchero, and Randle exist and are high up bodes well for him. I also think the idea that the traditional PF has died is a little outdated, with the tactical re-emphasis on offensive rebounding and dual-big lineups.

Out of that group Bobby Portis.

I don’t get the Siakam/Paolo/Randle comps, especially Siakam. Siakam is a much much better athlete than Cam. I don’t consider Siakam a position locked 4 that is a below the basket player.

When it comes to Paolo and Randle, especially Paolo. There is a night at day difference when it comes to their agility. Paolo isn’t super explosive, but he’s a much more fluid athlete.

Randle is closer, even though I think Randle coming out of Kentucky was the better athlete. But I wouldn’t take Randle top 5 in the current NBA. There is a reason he’s on his 4th team and each time he gets traded, the fanbase is happy he’s gone.

That chart is kind of exactly what I’m talking about. The vast majority of those guys, are all very versatile players who can play multiple positions. Thats not Cam.

[FrodoBaggins]

Without changing shot diet/volume, Sengun's 20.5 ppg on .568% TS goes to 21.5 ppg on .595% TS if you adjust his 3PT% from .308% to .400% and FT% from .686% to .800%.

+1.0 ppg and +.027% TS.

Just a little visualization on what a better shooting version could round out to from a statistical production perspective. An increase in 3PAr and FTr could provide additional boosts.

[FrodoBaggins]

This has always been my issue with Cam though. All the closest comps are guys that were pre 2015. Basically pre the shift away from the classic Power Forward, to now the more modern NBA 4.

If we were still in the age of guys like ZBo, Aldridge, Timberwolves Love, Carlos Boozer, Brand and so on. Ya I’d take Cam #1. Because I’d view him as the ideal version of all of those guys.

But the question has to be asked, why don’t we see those kinds of players anymore? Did we just have a decade + of those kinds of players just not existing? Or did the new pace and space era make those guys extinct?

I get Cam can hit the 3, but it’s not like he’s some elite shooter. Again the majority of his game is what he does in the paint.

So the question becomes, in today’s modern era, what will teams rather roll the dice on? Cam who is a strict 4, not a good defender out in space and is primarily a low post below the rim scorer, but can step out and hit the 3. Or a 4 that can give spot minutes at the 5 as a rim protector, and you believe within some years you can get him to a 36-37% 3pt shooter. Or a 4/3 combo who can switch defensively and his primary offense is from the perimeter?

Teams over the last decade have clearly chosen the latter 2 options. Over the bruising position locked 4 who don’t move their feet like a perimeter player.

All qualifying NBA PFs averaging over 10.0 ppg per Basketball Reference:



Which would you say are the most similar to Cameron Boozer? I think the fact that Siakam, Banchero, and Randle exist and are high up bodes well for him. I also think the idea that the traditional PF has died is a little outdated, with the tactical re-emphasis on offensive rebounding and dual-big lineups.

Out of that group Bobby Portis.

I don’t get the Siakam/Paolo/Randle comps, especially Siakam. Siakam is a much much better athlete than Cam. I don’t consider Siakam a position locked 4 that is a below the basket player.

When it comes to Paolo and Randle, especially Paolo. There is a night at day difference when it comes to their agility. Paolo isn’t super explosive, but he’s a much more fluid athlete.

Randle is closer, even though I think Randle coming out of Kentucky was the better athlete. But I wouldn’t take Randle top 5 in the current NBA. There is a reason he’s on his 4th team and each time he gets traded, the fanbase is happy he’s gone.

That chart is kind of exactly what I’m talking about. The vast majority of those guys, are all very versatile players who can play multiple positions. Thats not Cam.

Does the fluidity thing really matter? Are we concerned with aesthetics or production/results? Cam's PnR Ball Handling and Isolation Synergy Sports Tracking play type data was elite, IIRC. What does that suggest if not self-creation potential in the NBA? Many guys have pretty handles, moves, and shooting strokes, but it matters not if it isn't effective.

[FrodoBaggins]

If Paolo and Randle are/were such better athletes than Boozer, why did he dramatically outperform them on 2PT%? It can't be because of size, as they were all listed as 6'9"+, 250 lbs in college.

Randle: .517% 2PT on 9.3 2PT FGAs (37-40 dunks, 132-197 rim, .504% FG, 61-176 non-rim 2PT FGAs, .450% FG)
Paolo: .525% 2PT on 9.8 2PT FGAs (41-44 dunks, 127-188 rim, .676% FG, 74-195 non-rim 2PT FGAs, .379% FG)
Boozer: .615% 2PT on 10.1 2PT FGAs (41-43 dunks, 214-332 rim, .645% FG, 22-52 non-rim 2PT FGAs, .423% FG)

BONUS

Zion: .747% 2PT on 11.0 2PT FGAs (72-79 dunks, 247-313 rim, .789% FG, 25-51 non-rim 2PT FGAs, .490% FG)

So, Zion-level rim volume, on Paolo-level rim efficiency.

Was it superior touch/skill? Basketball IQ/shot selection? Or maybe he's a better athlete than people give him credit for? Even accounting for his efficient shot diet/quality, he dunked just as much and absolutely blows both of them out of the water for sheer rim scoring/production. Look at that volume of shots at the rim!

How did he do this if he's the same size but a worse athlete? Is it the soft touch and skill, because all I keep hearing about is his ugly flip shots and lack of moves? That he plays bully ball, but somehow that says nothing about his athleticism?

I think his athleticism is being majorly slept on. Incredible functional strength. Long, powerful strides. Great balance, footwork, and pivoting. His two-foot game is really good, and he's shown great potential with one-foot finishes.

[BostoNZ]

AJ actually reminds me more of Paolo than Boozer does

[Marvin Martian]

I would be much higher on this version of Cam Boozer than the one at Duke. He looks much more explosive off the dribble, and more decisive, showed a little more creativity. I don't know what Duke did to him, but I don't like it at all. He looks too big and too slow now.

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[Duke4life831]

All qualifying NBA PFs averaging over 10.0 ppg per Basketball Reference:



Which would you say are the most similar to Cameron Boozer? I think the fact that Siakam, Banchero, and Randle exist and are high up bodes well for him. I also think the idea that the traditional PF has died is a little outdated, with the tactical re-emphasis on offensive rebounding and dual-big lineups.

Out of that group Bobby Portis.

I don’t get the Siakam/Paolo/Randle comps, especially Siakam. Siakam is a much much better athlete than Cam. I don’t consider Siakam a position locked 4 that is a below the basket player.

When it comes to Paolo and Randle, especially Paolo. There is a night at day difference when it comes to their agility. Paolo isn’t super explosive, but he’s a much more fluid athlete.

Randle is closer, even though I think Randle coming out of Kentucky was the better athlete. But I wouldn’t take Randle top 5 in the current NBA. There is a reason he’s on his 4th team and each time he gets traded, the fanbase is happy he’s gone.

That chart is kind of exactly what I’m talking about. The vast majority of those guys, are all very versatile players who can play multiple positions. Thats not Cam.

Does the fluidity thing really matter? Are we concerned with aesthetics or production/results? Cam's PnR Ball Handling and Isolation Synergy Sports Tracking play type data was elite, IIRC. What does that suggest if not self-creation potential in the NBA? Many guys have pretty handles, moves, and shooting strokes, but it matters not if it isn't effective.

Ya the agility matters, it helps the game translate to the next level against better athletes.

Paolo has a FTr of .502 this year. What’s a big reason behind that? He’s able to drive from the perimeter and attack the basket. And it’s not all just straight line drives. The combination of his size, handle and agility allows him to get to the basket with relative ease.

Show me multiple drives from Cam that isn’t just a straight line drive. Slow footed straight line drives from Cam isn’t going to be a thing that he gets to do against NBA defenders. Which again was the issue that really showed up when Pat got hurt and opposing teams could then put an actual big on him.

Go rewatch the Virginia game in the ACC tournament. He couldn’t create a shot off the dribble at all against Onyenso. Boozer went 3-17 in that game. Onyenso blocked him 4 times in just 22 minutes.

Go watch how Boozer drives from the perimeter. He’s upright and it’s a straight line drive. Then go watch Paolo drive. He gets low, there’s wiggle and creativity.

There is a very clear functional athleticism difference between Paolo and Boozer.

[Duke4life831]

I would be much higher on this version of Cam Boozer than the one at Duke. He looks much more explosive off the dribble, and more decisive, showed a little more creativity. I don't know what Duke did to him, but I don't like it at all. He looks too big and too slow now.

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Ya this is what I’m talking about. Just the first drive alone. Look at the bend in his body, there is some flexibility and agility to it. Continuing the Paolo comp, this is the kind of bend and agility Paolo shows every night.

Show me clips of this kind of bend in a Duke uniform. It wasn’t there, and if it was, it was a very rare occurrence.

He also looks much thicker now than in these clips. Fluidity is not a word I would use to describe Cam at Duke. He was kind of the definition of a stiff athlete.

[HMFFL]

Cam is going to be dangerous once his post moves improve and once he gets quicker on his feet. Both will improve once he's drafted and his coaches work with him.

[FrodoBaggins]

Without changing shot diet/volume, Sengun's 20.5 ppg on .568% TS goes to 21.5 ppg on .595% TS if you adjust his 3PT% from .308% to .400% and FT% from .686% to .800%.

+1.0 ppg and +.027% TS.

Just a little visualization on what a better shooting version could round out to from a statistical production perspective. An increase in 3PAr and FTr could provide additional boosts.

Building on this.

Increasing Sengun's .116 3PAr and .344 FTr to Cameron's .264 and .536 takes that 21.5 ppg on .595% TS to 22.63 ppg on .602% TS.

3PT%, FT%, 3PAr, and FTr adjustments yield a +2.13 ppg and +.034% TS boost.

[FrodoBaggins]

I would be much higher on this version of Cam Boozer than the one at Duke. He looks much more explosive off the dribble, and more decisive, showed a little more creativity. I don't know what Duke did to him, but I don't like it at all. He looks too big and too slow now.

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I'm not concerned at all. These clips should strengthen belief in him and bolster his draft stock if anything. It shows he quite literally has the physical ability (fluidity, flexibility, "bend") people say he doesn't possess, and the skillset (mid-range shooting, fluid handle), too.

These qualities are not lost forever, and we shouldn't set limitations on athleticism when it can and is improved with work in the weight room/on the track. NBA strength and conditioning will get him into the best physical shape possible―250+ pounds of functional strength and power, but pliable like a rubber band. Most NBA players are doing some form of flexibility work in combination with weight lifting, whether pilates, stretching, hot yoga, gymnastics, calisthenics, or whatever.