Andrew Wiggins is not a lock at #1?

[Ayt]

They managed all this scouting off a 3 hour practice now? The season hasn't even begun yet!

He may be an athletic freak but what if he can't shoot (well enough). Why would you draft such a player that is so limited?
Even the so called scrub players currently in the NBA make jumpers, know when to shoot, during practice or have a better shooting form/stroke/release.

Lebron James looked like Darius Miles to me, the first time I saw him and even great players have days when they just can't hit a shot. Wiggins' shooting form is pretty good and he's fundamentally sound, its not like we are talking about Demar Derozan coming out of high school.

Was he a freshman in HS or something?

[flashstinson0]

He may be an athletic freak but what if he can't shoot (well enough). Why would you draft such a player that is so limited?
Even the so called scrub players currently in the NBA make jumpers, know when to shoot, during practice or have a better shooting form/stroke/release.

Lebron James looked like Darius Miles to me, the first time I saw him and even great players have days when they just can't hit a shot. Wiggins' shooting form is pretty good and he's fundamentally sound, its not like we are talking about Demar Derozan coming out of high school.

Was he a freshman in HS or something?

No it was when he was skinny with braids, no way he could have been talking about their game.

[SirCharles3434]

Parker should be the easy number one IMO. He's way too skilled to not succeed. If he can go back down to 225-230 he should lap everyone else (especially considering the fact he only gained weight when injured).

Wiggins reminds me of a Rudy Gay. Super athleticism and defensive potential but hardly a franchise changer like Parker could be.

What? This next draft is too deep and top heavy talented to know who'll be 1/who will emerge. And the majority consensus is that Wiggins is that guy.

What a ludicrous statement, as good as Parker is. (Think he's number 2)

Randle is the only other one in the discussion and his game screams less athletic Derrick Williams. I'll pass.

You must have not seen Randle play lol

[TheGameWinner]

Wiggins reminds me a lot of Dwight... not game wise... but personality. He was always a joker and a goof. He's a great kid though, super nice... a lot of friends... But unless he gets his jumper right... He won't be anything special... I hope he falls to the Spurs or something... that would be cool.

is he?

dont get that vibe at all

I used to play ball at the Vaughn Community Centre... and seen his HS games

[Mamba Venom]

Andrew Wiggins isnt a lock to be the #1 pick

Anything is possible. He has only a 99.99% chance to be #1 pick.

[E-Balla]

You must have not seen Randle play lol

You must've forgot how good Derrick Williams was at Zona.

[Orlwillbeback]

i dont buy any of this. How can you trust someone's observation over awesome youtube videos with loud rap instrumentals and wiggins dunking and doing spin moves and ****.

[TheGoodDoctor]

http://ballislife.com/kansas-jayhawks-p ... lden-more/

Apparently he wasn't that bad at the last scrimmage and led all scorers

[homecourtloss]

i dont buy any of this. How can you trust someone's observation over awesome youtube videos with loud rap instrumentals and wiggins dunking and doing spin moves and ****.

[DoubleLintendre]

Unlike Noel or Shabazz, Wiggin's top potential and physical gifts are almost too good (and rare) to pass up at #1.

The potential is there, but yes-- in a draft that's stacked with franchise-defining talent there's definitely a chance of him not being the top pick. It really depends on his development this year.

I can imagine him dropping far if his motor and leadership don't match up with his freakish athleticism and basketball skills by the end of his one-and-done college career-- just because the draft is deep with other players bursting with star potential.

However I don't think he will really drop all that far. Players with his athleticism and talent sometimes don't have to have an off-the-charts motor to be successful in the NBA. I don't think it's an absolute, but I think when you're that much faster/quicker/more explosive than most other players it's much easier for you to become a good defender and all around player, than it is for someone with average/below average speed/quickness and a high motor to succeed.

[flashstinson0]

Unlike Noel or Shabazz, Wiggin's top potential and physical gifts are almost too good (and rare) to pass up t #1.

The potential is there, but yes-- in a draft that's stacked with franchise-defining talent there's definitely a chance of him not being the top pick. It really depends on his development this year.

I can imagine him dropping far if his motor and leadership don't match up with his freakish athleticism and basketball skills by the end of his one-and-done college career-- just because the draft is deep with other players bursting with star potential.

However I don't think he will really drop all that far. Players with his athleticism and talent sometimes don't have to have an off-the-charts motor to be successful in the NBA. I don't think it's an absolute, but I think when you're that much faster/quicker/more explosive than most other players it's much easier for you to become a good defender and all around player, than it is for someone with average/below average speed/quickness and a high motor to succeed.

Him dropping far wont happen, if he even has a decent year this year he's still going to be a top 3-5 pick, he won't go any lower than 5, no matter what.

[DoubleLintendre]

I agree.

I can't see him dropping lower than 5, unless he really messes up this season. Still, going from 1 to 5 for a "generational talent" is pretty far.

[deliriousmouse]

With guys like Parker/Exum around of course a bad year he could fall away

No doubting his talent, He's still a kid.

[ceremony816]

He should be number 1 REGARDLESS, hopefully teams learn their lesson if Wiggins has a sub-par year after seeing Drummond showcase the potential everyone was talking about when he was in high school, after a disappointing college season.

Drummond slipped. But he wasn't ever projected as the #1 prospect, was he? I thought Davis had that on lock all along.

I remember for a while ESPN had Drummond going #1. Davis, IIRC, was under the radar in the beginning and moved up as the season went along.

[Mikey111690]

There is no such things as a lock for #1 a year before he can even be drafted, remember that Shabazz Muhammed was supposed to be number 1 and look were he is.

Yes it is a such thing......................

Lebron James

John Wall

Greg Oden

And Wiggins hype is higher than Wall and Oden and is almost on par with Lebron James.

Wiggins hype is NOWHERE close to the level of hype LeBron got. Wiggins is definitely the most hyped since LeBron, but it's nowhere close to the hype LeBron received. He already had games being televised while still in HS.

[eliasrapp98]

He could be taken over by his teammate, Embiid. 7'0" center with crazy athleticism and a Hakeem post game. Deadly.

[QRich3]

Tim Duncan should've slid to the second round. Zero aura factor.

people are getting too hung up on that one word in this thread.
basically what i think the scout was getting at is what vibe does he give off? is he an alpha dog? does he exude confidence and superiority? does he look like he can he just impose himself on his defender if he wants to? do extra defenders tend to gravitate towards him when he touches the ball? does it look like his teammates level of play improve when he's out there?

a guy like duncan might not have played with visible emotion or charisma, but he did play with quiet confidence, demanding the ball because he knew he could make a play with it.

I think people are right laughing at it cause it completely looks like an overreaction article that is trying to say all the controversial things that will draw clicks ie: Wiggins is not as good as you think - based on a few out of context quotes from scouts and a blatant overreaction analysis from Goodman based on a 3 hour practice and a 15 minute interview. The aura thing was just the cherry on top that makes it all the more comical.

And I seriously doubt anyone'd be able to see that quiet confidence in Duncan based on his first ever practice on his first year at Wake Forest and a 15 minute interview with him when he was 18.

[dice]

the best prospect entering the draft since lebron was blake griffin, correct? so is wiggins considered a better pick than griffin was? he's certainly gotten more hype than griffin did coming out of oklahoma

[ReasonablySober]

Tim Duncan should've slid to the second round. Zero aura factor.

people are getting too hung up on that one word in this thread.
basically what i think the scout was getting at is what vibe does he give off? is he an alpha dog? does he exude confidence and superiority? does he look like he can he just impose himself on his defender if he wants to? do extra defenders tend to gravitate towards him when he touches the ball? does it look like his teammates level of play improve when he's out there?

a guy like duncan might not have played with visible emotion or charisma, but he did play with quiet confidence, demanding the ball because he knew he could make a play with it.

I think people are right laughing at it cause it completely looks like an overreaction article that is trying to say all the controversial things that will draw clicks ie: Wiggins is not as good as you think - based on a few out of context quotes from scouts and a blatant overreaction analysis from Goodman based on a 3 hour practice and a 15 minute interview. The aura thing was just the cherry on top that makes it all the more comical.

And I seriously doubt anyone'd be able to see that quiet confidence in Duncan based on his first ever practice on his first year at Wake Forest and a 15 minute interview with him when he was 18.

And no one would care about his "aura" come draft day because he went out and averaged 10/10/4 as a 17 year old. Forget about the "aura" or how he interviews. The bigger issue is what he does on the court. Is his handle good enough, can he shoot, is he able to take over games offensively, etc.

[Froob]

We talkin about the next nba superstar, and y'all talkin about practice? Practice? What are we talkin bout?