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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#81 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:02 pm

BNelley24 wrote:All I know is he'll look very good in 76ers red white and blue.

there are literally no possible, teams that might have a chance at him, worse fit for Ben than the 76ers with Noel, Saric, Okafor and Embiid.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#82 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:04 pm

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BNelley24 wrote:All I know is he'll look very good in 76ers red white and blue.

?
Staukas?
?
Noel/Simmons/Saric
Okafor/Embiid

really? If I were philly and landed the #1 pick I'd try to get a future 1st or solid prospect to trade down to 3 or 4 and grab jaylen brown or brandon ingram, true natural threes that would be better fits with the current core. Of course all of that could very well change in the next 11 months lol.

It's still very early, but at this point Simmons looks like he'll play SF.

eeeeh no he doesnt, at all, he is actually going to play mostly C at LSU
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#83 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:07 pm

My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#84 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:08 pm

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Rastas wrote:Hmmm, the 6' 10" 240lb ambidextrous point forward with the 'Lebron game' or the next skilled big for no1 , still a long way to go before the GM's have to decide that pick but I believe they currently have the Aussie in front of the Haitian at this point, with another 'foreigner' (Canadian) at 3. Obviously not a good class for the Americans.


who's the Canadian?

Jamal Murray I would assume.


thought that was who he meant. bit of a stretch to say that right now though.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#85 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:10 pm

Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


how big of a role do you see him playing at Duke this year? you think he needs a focal point role for him to end up where you predict him to be? I ask because the others mentioned outside of MAYBE Jaylen should more than likely have bigger roles than Brandon don't you think?
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#86 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:18 pm

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Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


how big of a role do you see him playing at Duke this year? you think he needs a focal point role for him to end up where you predict him to be? I ask because the others mentioned outside of MAYBE Jaylen should more than likely have bigger roles than Brandon don't you think?

Well, I am not sure about Skal, but Ben should yeah.
Jaylen, it is going to be tricky, a lot of shot happy guys in that roster, and Rabb gotta play C and cover for them, dunno what will come out of it.
About Skal, Kentucky is a hype machine and all that, but I dont think his game screams 1st overall, he is more sort of a complimentary big, good hands, shooting, smooth, versatile, but he is an average athlete vertically and he needs to add weight badly.
Again I thought similarly, not in terms of skills but more so in what his role could be in the next level about KAT and he went 1st so...

I think Ingram will start for Duke, I thought that K might run his 3 Guard favourite line-up, but with only 2 legit ballhandlers, either Thornton or Allen will play back-up PG, and Jones is more so of a marginal talent, 4 year guy.
I like how Duke roster is assembled and it should benefit Brandon strengths, they have bigs who do a lot of things right to facilitate, Jeter is skilled, but Amile, Plumlee and Obi work their tail off in screens, rebounding, loose balls, etc, that is going to make life easy for Ingram, plus having a PG who can create for him like Derryck.

If he displays glimpses of been Durant-lite in some short, I dont think he needs to wow with stats, think about Kyrie, who indeed put up pretty good stats, but played only 10 games or so, that year the nº1 was not crystal clear and the team went with the highest potential guy, I believe Ingram might be perceived that way as well.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#87 » by Go_Hornets » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:38 pm

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Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


how big of a role do you see him playing at Duke this year? you think he needs a focal point role for him to end up where you predict him to be? I ask because the others mentioned outside of MAYBE Jaylen should more than likely have bigger roles than Brandon don't you think?

Huh? IMO Ingram will easily be the leading scorer for Duke. He'll also be one of the main ball handlers according to one of the Duke coaches.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#88 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:42 pm

He might be the leading scorer but he is not going to put up 25 a game or anything like that, Duke scoring should be well distributed across the roster, I have my doubts with them because of their youth, but they have all the talent in the world, and they should be a top10 preseason team.

Thornton-Allen
Jones-Allen
Ingram-Kennard
Jefferson-Obi
Jeter-Plumlee-Vrankovic

I'd bring Grayson off the bench as a 6th man with offensive freedom and making him the defacto back-up PG, I wont be surprised if Obi ends up stealing Amile's food.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#89 » by Masterfully » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:50 pm

Fischella wrote:
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damecurry wrote:?
Staukas?
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Noel/Simmons/Saric
Okafor/Embiid

really? If I were philly and landed the #1 pick I'd try to get a future 1st or solid prospect to trade down to 3 or 4 and grab jaylen brown or brandon ingram, true natural threes that would be better fits with the current core. Of course all of that could very well change in the next 11 months lol.

It's still very early, but at this point Simmons looks like he'll play SF.

eeeeh no he doesnt, at all, he is actually going to play mostly C at LSU

We're talking about the NBA, not LSU. If you think Simmons will play C in the NBA then you've never seen him. PF is hard to imagine but possible.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#90 » by No-Man » Mon Jul 20, 2015 5:52 pm

possible? he is clearly a PF at the next level, he has no business playing SF
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#91 » by immortalone23 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:13 pm

I think this "postionless basketball" is getting out of hand. I think he'll be more effective at the 4.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#92 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:17 pm

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Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


how big of a role do you see him playing at Duke this year? you think he needs a focal point role for him to end up where you predict him to be? I ask because the others mentioned outside of MAYBE Jaylen should more than likely have bigger roles than Brandon don't you think?

Huh? IMO Ingram will easily be the leading scorer for Duke. He'll also be one of the main ball handlers according to one of the Duke coaches.


on a team with that much talent he's not guaranteed to be the guy. He def has the talent to be without question but Ingram doesn't need to be forcefed the ball for this team to be successful. That's what I meant in terms of role comparatively.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#93 » by damecurry » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:24 pm

Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st

Ingram's definitely my favorite prospect, his length and tools are so compelling. Last year all the Duke guys fell further than expected, maybe this year compensates with brandon going high.
But he's only a year younger than those guys btw, skal is actually the oldest (bit over 19) ben and jaylen are both slightly under 19.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#94 » by Go_Hornets » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:36 pm

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how big of a role do you see him playing at Duke this year? you think he needs a focal point role for him to end up where you predict him to be? I ask because the others mentioned outside of MAYBE Jaylen should more than likely have bigger roles than Brandon don't you think?

Huh? IMO Ingram will easily be the leading scorer for Duke. He'll also be one of the main ball handlers according to one of the Duke coaches.


on a team with that much talent he's not guaranteed to be the guy. He def has the talent to be without question but Ingram doesn't need to be forcefed the ball for this team to be successful. That's what I meant in terms of role comparatively.

I don't think Duke is that good tbh. They lost four starters and none of their bigs are very talented. Jeter has some potential, but he looks like he'll need a couple years to be decent in college.

Should be interesting to see who ends up being the number one pick.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#95 » by Marcus » Mon Jul 20, 2015 6:48 pm

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Go_Hornets wrote:Huh? IMO Ingram will easily be the leading scorer for Duke. He'll also be one of the main ball handlers according to one of the Duke coaches.


on a team with that much talent he's not guaranteed to be the guy. He def has the talent to be without question but Ingram doesn't need to be forcefed the ball for this team to be successful. That's what I meant in terms of role comparatively.

I don't think Duke is that good tbh. They lost four starters and none of their bigs are very talented. Jeter has some potential, but he looks like he'll need a couple years to be decent in college.

Should be interesting to see who ends up being the number one pick.


Buzz from scouts right now is Ben is number one and its not even close. I think number one might be up for grabs by the time its all said and done though.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#96 » by Masterfully » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:38 pm

Fischella wrote:possible? he is clearly a PF at the next level, he has no business playing SF

Draftexpress has him listed as a SF/PF. As does NBADraft.net. His game today is clearly that of a SF. But in a year when his body is stronger and he is going against faster NBA athletes I could see him being used primarily as a PF.

Right now to me, he looks like a faster, more athletic version of Kyle Anderson.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#97 » by No-Man » Tue Jul 21, 2015 4:41 pm

Anderson is another PF, he is much better as a PF, I mean, he just won SL MVP playing PF and he clearly looked like a PF prospect coming out of UCLA
I understand that the skillset kind of look like a perimeter guy, but with the lack of athleticism, more of an issue with Slowmo of course, and the lack of burst/agility/legs, both are better suited to attack from the PF spot, against slower guys, and to defend slower bigs as well.
If anything the trend in the NBA moves them further more to the 4.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#98 » by Mike X » Tue Jul 21, 2015 10:48 pm

Fischella wrote:My educated guess by the way is that Ingram, who is almost 2 years younger than Jaylen and Ben, and year younger than Skal, ends up leapfrogging all of them and goes 1st


Ingram is 10 months younger then Brown, 13 months after Simmons and 18 months younger then Labisierre.
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Re: Ben Simmons 

Post#99 » by GimmeDat » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:30 am

[instagram]https://instagram.com/p/5a3pVMhYur/[/instagram]

41 inches according to the caption.. Higher number than I would've predicted. Wonder if he'd be able to match that figure at the actual NBA combine..
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Ben Simmons 

Post#100 » by splendidham » Wed Jul 22, 2015 4:42 am

GimmeDat wrote:[instagram]https://instagram.com/p/5a3pVMhYur/[/instagram]

41 inches according to the caption.. Higher number than I would've predicted. Wonder if he'd be able to match that figure at the actual NBA combine..


Was just about to post this. A lot of people around here claim he's not an athlete yet it's pretty clear he's fast and now he can jump. I think it's because of how smooth he looks when he has the ball, almost looks like he's not trying. Some mistake that I guess.

Also, read someone say he was a mediocre shot blocker. I'm not saying he's a good one but I don't think he needed to be a shot blocker in high school. He had two 7 footers backing him up


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