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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#81 » by stinger14 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 11:27 pm

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The big 10 has 3 teams in the top 8 so no the ACC literally doesn't have the most teams in the top 10.

According to the ap poll, the ACC has just 3 top 25 teams, 1 top 10 team, 1 top 5 team

Ouch. That's flat out bad.


Big Ten? LOL....if you are going to argue against the ACC, please dont bring up the conference that lost 11 to 2 in the ACC/Big East challenge.....The ACC is good from top to bottom which makes ot tough each night you play, therefore teams will lose a few games and not be ranked as high in the AP poll...Every team in the ACC has a winning record in non-conference play, heck Pittsburgh is 0-13 in ACC games, but they are 8-5 out of conference....As I said the ACC is the best and deepest conference in the country!



Lol my stomach hurts from laughing. The ACC is flat out ass

ACC/B1G challenge. ROTFL . That's as meaningfil as conference bowl records.


Head to head matchups...domination by the ACC
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#82 » by Chi town » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:42 pm

I like Carter. I think he’s a hard hat lunch pale guy w a 3 ball.

Taj Gibson at the 5 w a 3 ball. Long career. Impact player. Plug and play.

Can’t judge his PnR D due to the Duke zone. He can board and rim protect though. His shot and post moves have big upside.
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Post#83 » by nolang1 » Sat Mar 17, 2018 7:56 pm

Chi town wrote:I like Carter. I think he’s a hard hat lunch pale guy w a 3 ball.

Taj Gibson at the 5 w a 3 ball. Long career. Impact player. Plug and play.

Can’t judge his PnR D due to the Duke zone. He can board and rim protect though. His shot and post moves have big upside.


I mean, you can judge it by the fact that the main reason they play so much zone when they never have before is because he and Bolden can’t guard pick-and-rolls.

I would also be hesitant to say he has big offensive upside because he benefits from Bagley and even Allen being a higher priority in the scouting report and against similar size, he gets stonewalled 1-on-1 in the post more than I’d like. But I agree that he’s someone who will have a long NBA career even if he’s not a high-level starter.
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Post#84 » by RookieStar » Sun Mar 18, 2018 12:20 am

It;t because his front court mate is not only longer than him, but more fluid and fast. So I can't really judge him against normal bigs cuz he looks slow compared to Bagley.
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Post#85 » by SBM » Wed Mar 21, 2018 11:53 pm

Guy seems productive to me and I like that as a freshman. Maybe he is just a 3rd big but he is worth a pick late lottery and beyond. This draft is weak.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#86 » by GimmeDat » Thu Mar 22, 2018 3:27 am

SBM wrote:Guy seems productive to me and I like that as a freshman. Maybe he is just a 3rd big but he is worth a pick late lottery and beyond. This draft is weak.


This draft's far from weak. Carter has great size and length, can score inside and out, can pass, high level rebounder, should come around to be solid on defense in time imo. He's a very well rounded prospect.
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Post#87 » by Duke4life831 » Mon Apr 9, 2018 10:16 pm

Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.
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Post#88 » by Marcus » Mon Apr 9, 2018 11:29 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.


lmao. hold tight good sir.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#89 » by Roddy B for 3 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:59 am

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The top 4 in the Kenpom rankings right now is UVA, Villanova, Cincinnati and Purdue. You have a team from the left overs of the Big East, a team from the American conference, Purdue which is far from a big name or power house and UVA is also far from being a big name in the ACC. UVA, Villanova and Duke have all played schedules ranked in the top 25, hell the team with the weakest schedule on there is Cincinnati, which is the least well known school and the team from the worst conference out of the top ranked schools. So much for only being big named schools that play crappy schedules. And really, youre going to say a statistical based system, is more biased to big named schools than the media who loves big named schools?

Anyways Im done derailing this thread. Sorry to everyone for derailing this.


I guess you missed the part where i said i couldn't care less about Kenpom rankings, they are irrelevant. Meaningless.


Ya I get it. You couldnt care less about something that doesnt help fit your narrative. Its not like Ken Pomeroy was brought in during one of the last meetings by the NCAA to help modernize and make the selection committee more accurate, its not like Kenpom rankings havent surpassed RPI as the most important ranking system that the committee uses to select the tournament field.

But no its irrelevant to bring up Kenpom rankings while trying to discuss who has the best conference because you couldnt care less about them.

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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#90 » by Duke4life831 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 7:19 am

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I guess you missed the part where i said i couldn't care less about Kenpom rankings, they are irrelevant. Meaningless.


Ya I get it. You couldnt care less about something that doesnt help fit your narrative. Its not like Ken Pomeroy was brought in during one of the last meetings by the NCAA to help modernize and make the selection committee more accurate, its not like Kenpom rankings havent surpassed RPI as the most important ranking system that the committee uses to select the tournament field.

But no its irrelevant to bring up Kenpom rankings while trying to discuss who has the best conference because you couldnt care less about them.

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Post NCAA tournament how did Kenpom hold up?


The #1 team on Kenpom won the tournament, while the #1 team in the AP ended up being the first ever #1 seed to lose in the opening round. I think Kenpom held up better than the AP did in the tournament.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#91 » by No-Man » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:45 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.

I mean did you read what his family thought about college? feel like a stretch to even consider returning
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#92 » by doordoor123 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:40 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.

I mean did you read what his family thought about college? feel like a stretch to even consider returning


Yeah, his dad thinks he should have gone strait to the NBA and that college was meaningless for his son.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#93 » by MachoMan » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:26 pm

Wendell Carter Jr. undecided on entering NBA draft, parents say

The parents of Duke freshman center Wendell Carter Jr. told ESPN's The Undefeated on Wednesday morning that their son is still undecided about entering the 2018 NBA draft.


http://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/23114991/wendell-carter-jr-duke-blue-devils-undecided-nba-draft-parents-say

he has to declare....hope someone is advising him to go now.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#94 » by nolang1 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 4:38 pm

My guess would be that he had an agent lined up this time last year but now has to find someone else due to the NCAA investigation stuff.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#95 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 5:54 pm

Fischella wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.

I mean did you read what his family thought about college? feel like a stretch to even consider returning


I dont think "stretch" is the proper word, stretch makes it seem like there is some reasonable chance haha. I know hes gone, my post was more jokingly in say a Lloyd Christmas "So youre telling me theres a chance" type of way.
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Post#96 » by doordoor123 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 6:58 pm

Carter was initially contemplating going to Harvard and his mother values his efforts in school. I’m guessing he does too. Could be interesting if he returns.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#97 » by Justwar » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:06 pm

I would value school after I made twenty million, take a couple summer classes a year, then graduate a year or two after you retire.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#98 » by Duke4life831 » Wed Apr 11, 2018 8:32 pm

Justwar wrote:I would value school after I made twenty million, take a couple summer classes a year, then graduate a year or two after you retire.


Yup. I honestly dont get what there would be to think about here. Lets say he goes #7 in this draft, Lauri Markkanen made 3.8 mil this year and is going to make roughly 20 mil over his first 4 years in the league. So thats basically 20 mil guaranteed money staring you in the face. Im all for school and education, but it would be really dumb to turn that down.

Obviously as a Duke fan I can spin this in my head as, there is a chance he slides out of the top 10 in this year's draft. Next year's draft right now doesnt look deep outside its top 3 and is looking really weak when it comes to big men. Why not return and try to solidify yourself as a top 5 pick in next years draft.

That would be my take when I let my Duke bias and fandom talk, but ya I think there is a solid chance Carter goes 7th or 8th in this year's draft and that is just too much money to turn down. Take the money and if education is important, do some summer classes and online classes and try to graduate in the next 10 years or so, while youre making your millions.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#99 » by yoyoboy » Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:00 pm

He's not not the sexiest pick but he should be serviceable in the NBA. I'm starting to feel like we'll be picking either him or Sexton (yuck) at 9. I see him being a great third big on a good team. He's decent across the board when it comes to measurables, shooting, footwork, touch around the basket, athleticism, etc, but not really elite at any one thing. His lack of footspeed will hurt his ability to defend in space and while his shot has looked good, 1 attempt per game from three, mostly uncontested, isn't a reliable enough sample size. He's like a poor man's KAT in a lot of ways. He lacks the same athleticism specifically his footspeed, he's a lot smaller (5 inches less of standing reach), he doesn't have the same ballhandling, and it's very doubtful he'll be as good of a shooter. But that's why he's going 9-10 while KAT was a consensus number one pick.
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Re: Wendell Carter 

Post#100 » by bulliedog8 » Thu Apr 12, 2018 2:39 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:Only 13 more days till the deadline to announce early entry. Maybe Carter is thinking about returning and having a chance to be the first big to be taken in next year's draft. He would be the perfect 5 to go alongside Duke's team next year.

A man can dream can't he.


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