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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#81 » by Hal14 » Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:43 pm

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BostonCouchGM wrote:yes, 5'11" point guards are all the rage. He is a late 1st talent at best. There isn't a scenario where he becomes a high level starting PG in the NBA.


if he is 5'11 i agree ceiling is lower. but if he is legit 6'1 similar as Trae thats more than enough. The league isnt that tough where midgets cant take 5 hits per game and go to the line. He has inner Trae/Rose to live at the rim and put pressure as well as being a top 10 distributor.


I think he's lowry's height, chris pauls height. He'll be fine if he can learn to shoot

That's a big if.

Also, Lowry and CP3 are 10x better defensively than Cooper
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#82 » by EMG518 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:08 am

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The-Power wrote:Sure, and what reason would he have to lie about his height after refusing to be measured, and right before he is about to make millions in a sport in which size is incredibly important. Do you have any evidence that he is ‘clearly taller’ than 6 feet?


Yeah, go watch a game where he is playing against someone whom was measured at the combine. It's obvious. Playing against guys who measured over 6'3 in shoes and the difference is negligible.

So you have nothing.


If you consider actual game footage of him playing against people measured as recent as a few weeks ago at the nba combine nothing and are not smart enough to utilize that then sure, nothing.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#83 » by God Squad » Tue Jul 20, 2021 5:53 am

Cooper says he's 6'2.

“I’m not 6' 4",” Cooper says with a laugh. “But I’m definitely not 6' 1" anymore, I’m about 6' 2".”


Another good Quote

“I believe it’s extremely overrated,” Cooper says. “You watch all these point guards like Cameron Payne and Chris Paul and Trae Young and all these guys be the best players on the floor everywhere they play. You watch Chris Paul shoot over a 7-foot Brook Lopez. It’s funny how much they emphasize height instead of looking at a player’s talent. It feels like we’re always gonna have to go get it the hard way and that’s fine.”

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/14/sharife-cooper-height-nba-draft
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#84 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:52 am

God Squad wrote:Cooper says he's 6'2.

“I’m not 6' 4",” Cooper says with a laugh. “But I’m definitely not 6' 1" anymore, I’m about 6' 2".”


Another good Quote

“I believe it’s extremely overrated,” Cooper says. “You watch all these point guards like Cameron Payne and Chris Paul and Trae Young and all these guys be the best players on the floor everywhere they play. You watch Chris Paul shoot over a 7-foot Brook Lopez. It’s funny how much they emphasize height instead of looking at a player’s talent. It feels like we’re always gonna have to go get it the hard way and that’s fine.”

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/14/sharife-cooper-height-nba-draft


So, it looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. That's good.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#85 » by The-Power » Tue Jul 20, 2021 9:56 am

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Yeah, go watch a game where he is playing against someone whom was measured at the combine. It's obvious. Playing against guys who measured over 6'3 in shoes and the difference is negligible.

So you have nothing.


If you consider actual game footage of him playing against people measured as recent as a few weeks ago at the nba combine nothing and are not smart enough to utilize that then sure, nothing.

Well, I asked you provide evidence (like a good picture to compare heights to someone recently measured, for instance) and you not only fail to provide anything but actually ramp up the insolent behavior. Just tells me that you don't have anything factual to add to the discussion, so you're not worth my time.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#86 » by God Squad » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:29 am

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God Squad wrote:Cooper says he's 6'2.

“I’m not 6' 4",” Cooper says with a laugh. “But I’m definitely not 6' 1" anymore, I’m about 6' 2".”


Another good Quote

“I believe it’s extremely overrated,” Cooper says. “You watch all these point guards like Cameron Payne and Chris Paul and Trae Young and all these guys be the best players on the floor everywhere they play. You watch Chris Paul shoot over a 7-foot Brook Lopez. It’s funny how much they emphasize height instead of looking at a player’s talent. It feels like we’re always gonna have to go get it the hard way and that’s fine.”

https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/14/sharife-cooper-height-nba-draft


So, it looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. That's good.

Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#87 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:40 am

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God Squad wrote:Cooper says he's 6'2.



Another good Quote


https://www.si.com/nba/2021/07/14/sharife-cooper-height-nba-draft


So, it looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. That's good.

Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#88 » by Skybox » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:31 am

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So, it looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. That's good.

Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.


Being short does not make you Trae Young...nobody was saying "if he could just get his 3pt shooting respectable" while Trae was hitting from the logo 3x a night.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#89 » by God Squad » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:36 am

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God Squad wrote:Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.


Being short does not make you Trae Young...nobody was saying "if he could just get his 3pt shooting respectable" while Trae was hitting from the logo 3x a night.

Has nothing about being short. Have you watched Cooper play? The way he dissects the game from the perimeter with dazzling passes or getting to where ever he wants on the court at will. Just him attacking the paint and kicking it out will open a teams offense. He's deceptively quick with the ball in his hands. He's negatives are the 3pt and potentially being a defensive liability at his size/frame.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#90 » by Nuntius » Tue Jul 20, 2021 11:40 am

Skybox wrote:
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God Squad wrote:Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.


Being short does not make you Trae Young...nobody was saying "if he could just get his 3pt shooting respectable" while Trae was hitting from the logo 3x a night.


I never said that being short makes you Trae Young. Someone else in this thread said "he's basically a poor man's Trae Young" and I continued the analogy. Is the analogy accurate? I have no idea. I agree that he has not shown Trae's shooting range and it would be surprising if he was to become as good of a shooter as Young is. All I did was extend this hypothetical.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#91 » by Ruzious » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:30 pm

Nuntius wrote:
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So, it looks like he has a chip on his shoulder. That's good.

Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.

If there's one player in this draft that will be virtually unguardable if he develops a consistent 3, it's Cooper.
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Re: sharife cooper will be the steal of the draft 

Post#92 » by EMG518 » Tue Jul 20, 2021 3:54 pm

The-Power wrote:
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The-Power wrote:So you have nothing.


If you consider actual game footage of him playing against people measured as recent as a few weeks ago at the nba combine nothing and are not smart enough to utilize that then sure, nothing.

Well, I asked you provide evidence (like a good picture to compare heights to someone recently measured, for instance) and you not only fail to provide anything but actually ramp up the insolent behavior. Just tells me that you don't have anything factual to add to the discussion, so you're not worth my time.


No, you didn't ask me to provide evidence, you claimed what I posted was nothing. Why would I go out of my way to provide a picture to someone who literally just said that evidence from in game tape was nothing. If you want feel free to go pull up the combine results, pick a guard who played against him and pull up the game footage. You don't need me to change your mind. You are the only one who can change it.
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Re: Sharife Cooper - Auburn 

Post#93 » by Marcus » Tue Jul 20, 2021 4:07 pm

Ruzious wrote:
Nuntius wrote:
God Squad wrote:Yup. He knows he's coming in "undersized" by GM's. I think he's gonna surpise a lot of people. I really love his game and if he can become respectable from 3, he'll be a steal. His play making and getting into the paint in special.


If he becomes respectable from 3 is the key point here. Someone in this thread asked "how valuable is a poor man's Trae going to be". My answer to that is the following:

Very valuable.

Trae showed in these playoffs that he is not to be taken lightly. He's a baller. He's a guy that has now proved that trading Luka for him wasn't the blunder that we thought it was and Luka is on a trajectory to be an all-time great. That's how good Trae is.

A poor man's Trae is, at least, an All-Star, imo. Of course, Cooper has a long way to go to be a poor man's Trae. I wouldn't pick him in the lotto right now, for example. But IF he gets that 3-point shot going then he has a very good chance at being an excellent pro.

If there's one player in this draft that will be virtually unguardable if he develops a consistent 3, it's Cooper.


it looks like a overhaul job. Form, speed, release point. If a team has the coach to put the time in with him and they can get him there it will be a huge win. I like pretty
much everything except the jumper and defensive liability. But a real three ball will help make the defensive downfalls passable.
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