Chet Holmgren - Gonzaga

[mattao313]

Thought question:

If Chet gets sonned by a NBA quality PF in the tournament, how much does he drop?

Of course if he outplays NBA size over the span of a tourney, then I'll naturally take him #1.

I don't see him falling out of the top 3. Too much talent and upside imo he's #1 so far.

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[GreatWhiteStiff]

Thought question:

If Chet gets sonned by a NBA quality PF in the tournament, how much does he drop?

Of course if he outplays NBA size over the span of a tourney, then I'll naturally take him #1.

A lot. Struggling in the tourney would be a big red flag that shows weakness vs top level competition.

It might only be a game, unless he struggles and they win, etc.

[MemphisX]

Thought question:

If Chet gets sonned by a NBA quality PF in the tournament, how much does he drop?

Of course if he outplays NBA size over the span of a tourney, then I'll naturally take him #1.

A lot. Struggling in the tourney would be a big red flag that shows weakness vs top level competition.

Like Franz? One game is one game. The tournament is just another data point.

[Big J]

Thought question:

If Chet gets sonned by a NBA quality PF in the tournament, how much does he drop?

Of course if he outplays NBA size over the span of a tourney, then I'll naturally take him #1.

A lot. Struggling in the tourney would be a big red flag that shows weakness vs top level competition.

Like Franz? One game is one game. The tournament is just another data point.

Great players get up for big games. Franz isn’t going to be an all time great. He’s capped out as a quality starter.

[SeattleJazzFan]

A lot. Struggling in the tourney would be a big red flag that shows weakness vs top level competition.

Like Franz? One game is one game. The tournament is just another data point.

Great players get up for big games. Franz isn’t going to be an all time great. He’s capped out as a quality starter.

they get up. they don't play great 100% of the time.

[Goldbum]

Jabari or Chet have to go 1 and 2 right? Then I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

[BlazersBroncos]

Jabari or Chet have to go 1 and 2 right? Then I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Ya man, it’s not close after those 2 IMO.

[8305]

Jabari or Chet have to go 1 and 2 right? Then I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Ya man, it’s not close after those 2 IMO.

Check out Jaden Ivey tonight.

[mattao313]

Jabari or Chet have to go 1 and 2 right? Then I think beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Ya man, it’s not close after those 2 IMO.

Check out Jaden Ivey tonight.

If you get a top 4 pick it's a good day. I think the top 4 is pretty close

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[SeattleJazzFan]

holmgren is doing exactly what you would hope he would do playing for the zags this season. he's now pretty much dominating most of the meaningful advanced stats in a way that has rarely been seen. 7th in cbb in offensive rating and 1st in defensive rating. 1st in eFG and TS. 9th in PER. 1st in WS48 and box plus/minus (4th in obpm, 2nd in dbpm).

not really sure anybody could ask for much more at this point from a production standpoint.

[GSWFan1994]

Yep, Chet has really surged recently.

He's currently up to:

15/9/2 + 3,4 blocks
64/46/73
on 26 mpg

Per 40:
23/14/3 + 5,3 blocks

32,6 PER

[Ell Curry]

Thought question:

If Chet gets sonned by a NBA quality PF in the tournament, how much does he drop?

Of course if he outplays NBA size over the span of a tourney, then I'll naturally take him #1.

A lot. Struggling in the tourney would be a big red flag that shows weakness vs top level competition.

Like Franz? One game is one game. The tournament is just another data point.

Not only shown by Franz struggling but also by him locking up Scottie Barnes in the tournament, which might have led some teams to put Suggs over him...

[XTC]

Chet has really picked it up recently while Jabari has really struggled.

Chet in his past 8
17.4/10.8/1.8/0.9/3.3 on 68.5/60/77.8 shooting splits.

Jabari his past 5
14.4/8.4/0.4/1/1 on 33.9/32/84.9 shooting splits

If I had the #1 pick there's no way I'm not picking Chet.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Chet has really picked it up recently while Jabari has really struggled.

Chet in his past 8
17.4/10.8/1.8/0.9/3.3 on 68.5/60/77.8 shooting splits.

Jabari his past 5
14.4/8.4/0.4/1/1 on 33.9/32/84.9 shooting splits

If I had the #1 pick there's no way I'm not picking Chet.

it should be noted jabari is playing much tougher competition.

but yeah, chet can only produce against the competition he's given and he's been elite at that. just not sure the comparison itself is fair given the talent disparity in terms of the competition.

[GreatWhiteStiff]

Chet has really picked it up recently while Jabari has really struggled.

Chet in his past 8
17.4/10.8/1.8/0.9/3.3 on 68.5/60/77.8 shooting splits.

Jabari his past 5
14.4/8.4/0.4/1/1 on 33.9/32/84.9 shooting splits

If I had the #1 pick there's no way I'm not picking Chet.

But, but chet only looks to drive and convert with great efficiency at the rim, whereas Jabari shoots under 50% inside the arc, because he tries contested ranged shots outside of the paint!

I'm going to drop this quote here and get the **** out of this thread: "Kirstaps Porzingas only gets compared to white dudes". Don't @ me. Laters.

[babyjax13]

I've also moved Chet to 1. I'm not convinced that he is going to be a superstar, in fact, I feel confident he will not be - BUT he is a rare archetype (rim defender who can hit open threes) and should be one of the better examples of that type of player. He's also got more to his game than I think his nearest comparison does (Myles Turner). I think his frame will continue to sometimes be a weakness and sometimes a strength (a la Gobert) but I believe in him more than I did to start the year. That said, if you told me Jaden Ivey or Jabari Smith end up better, I wouldn't be surprised. Would be mildly surprised if Banchero did.

[CptCrunch]

I am also officially on the Chet train. Chet possess the highest ceiling this year. His problems with his build/strength is fixable. Assuming that his potential is realized, Chet has a reasonable path to a franchise player.

Chet > Paolo > Jabari for me. Ivey/Sharpe is a wash for four/five.

[mattao313]

I am also officially on the Chet train. Chet possess the highest ceiling this year. His problems with his build/strength is fixable. Assuming that his potential is realized, Chet has a reasonable path to a franchise player.

Chet > Paolo > Jabari for me. Ivey/Sharpe is a wash for four/five.

Thats exactly how I have it so far. Chet can be a dominant defensive player I'm not sure the others can dominate either side of the ball.

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[XTC]

I think the people who don't hold Chet in high regard are the same people who expect every #1 overall pick to be a #1 scoring option.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chet as a prospect but he isn't going to be a #1 option. Thing is he does everything else so elite, I can live with it. My comparison is Rudy Gobert with better shooting, handles, and passing. Take that as you will. Kid is going to be a franchise corner stone IMO.

[mattao313]

I think the people who don't hold Chet in high regard are the same people who expect every #1 overall pick to be a #1 scoring option.

Don't get me wrong, I love Chet as a prospect but he isn't going to be a #1 option. Thing is he does everything else so elite, I can live with it. My comparison is Rudy Gobert with better shooting, handles, and passing. Take that as you will. Kid is going to be a franchise corner stone IMO.

15&10 with elite defense and can also space the floor is a amazing player.

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