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Post#81 » by john2jer » Sun Apr 20, 2008 7:38 pm

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agree on first point,
Bayless is on my bust list also. Not only is he not a true pg, but he has stubby lil arms and that hurts any chance of him being a combo guard. He either needs to learn pg or be off the bench.
Rose could be argued as the best fit because a 3 man group of rose/foye/shad would be damn sexy.


That's exactly what I'm saying. I prefer Bayless over Gordon, but I prefer 6-8 guys over the two of them.

Rose or Mayo work for me. Obviously if we get one of the top two picks we take Rose, but if we land where we should, or lower 3-6, I'm not upset at all with Mayo. Mayo has enough Brandon Roy in him to make Foye extremely effective as a Gilbert Arenas type of point guard. Foye doesn't have Gilbert's deadly shot, but he has enough strength and determination to get to the basket and the free throw line.
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Post#82 » by horaceworthy » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:03 pm

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agree on first point,
Bayless is on my bust list also. Not only is he not a true pg, but he has stubby lil arms and that hurts any chance of him being a combo guard. He either needs to learn pg or be off the bench.
Rose could be argued as the best fit because a 3 man group of rose/foye/shad would be damn sexy.


Bayless doesn't have stubby lil arms, he just doesn't have long arms (6'3" is a normal wingspan for his size). If you go by the Hoops Summit measurements, he's got 3 inches of standing reach on Foye (8'4" to 8'1"), 1 inch of standing reach on Rose, and the same standing reach as Mayo.

Bayless is an interesting player because he has the athleticism/jump shot combo to potentially be special, but he's the absolute prototype when it comes to being stuck in between positions. I don't think he'll bust, but I do think he's redundant enough for the Wolves that we should examine other guys, if we feel they're close.
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Post#83 » by GJense4181 » Sun Apr 20, 2008 11:52 pm

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Historically speaking you dont expect great NBA players picking 3rd, just ask Danny Ferry, Darius Miles, Joe Smith, Darko and on and on.....some who went higher than 3.

Yes, you do.

Anfernee Hardaway
Grant Hill
Jerry Stackhouse.
Shareef-Abdur Rahim. 20/10 for several seasons.
Chauncey Billups.
Baron Davis.
Pau Gasol.
Mike Dunleavy, the rightful MIP.
Carmelo Anthony.
Ben Gordon, 6MOY,
Deron Williams.
Al Horford.

Just to name a few.

Spoke too soon?
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Post#84 » by Yama » Mon Apr 21, 2008 12:45 am

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jumanji wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Historically speaking you dont expect great NBA players picking 3rd, just ask Danny Ferry, Darius Miles, Joe Smith, Darko and on and on.....some who went higher than 3.

Yes, you do.

Anfernee Hardaway
Grant Hill
Jerry Stackhouse.
Shareef-Abdur Rahim. 20/10 for several seasons.
Chauncey Billups.
Baron Davis.
Pau Gasol.
Mike Dunleavy, the rightful MIP.
Carmelo Anthony.
Ben Gordon, 6MOY,
Deron Williams.
Al Horford.

Just to name a few.

Spoke too soon?

I think there was also this guy named Michael Jordan who was picked third, too.
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Post#85 » by GJense4181 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:40 am

^No effing way!
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Post#86 » by Smills91 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:50 am

Twolves GOTTA take Lopeez 3
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Post#87 » by swenjj » Mon Apr 21, 2008 2:18 am

Smills91 wrote:Twolves GOTTA take Lopeez 3


we have such a weakness at center i think we will take lopez, not sure what i think of that, i guess it depends on if we could trade mccants and something for a center, and take mayo. how much of an upgrade is mayo with shad on the bench over lopez putting al back at pf and having a real center? i dont know
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Post#88 » by revprodeji » Mon Apr 21, 2008 4:15 am

I do not think it will be lopez because what we need at center is a defensive guy, not an offensive guy. Thus it could be addressed in free agency (diop) or even at the beginning of the second rd since we have 2 high picks there.

Best case scenario we trade the 2 2nds+player to a team that does not want the rookie contract in the 15-25 range and draft a guy like Hibbert. Mayo+Hibbert would be great for the puppies.
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Post#89 » by the_bruce » Mon Apr 21, 2008 6:55 am

My Take:
Mayo at #3
Randolph at any pick 4-6.
take Lopez if Randolph\Mayo are off the board

I'm still not sold on the Euro.

Center is a need for the Wolves, but I think this can be addressed in other ways next year.
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Post#90 » by deeney0 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 1:13 pm

I'm pretty sold at Lopez at 4. He might not be a stud defensive C, but I think he'll hold his own in the NBA. Al just got better and better at help defense throughout the season, I think the need for a strictly "defensive" center might be a bit over rated - they just need someone with some size and talent.
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Post#91 » by shrink » Mon Apr 21, 2008 5:50 pm

I like the idea of a Mayo-Foye back court, but I get the feeling that some team out there would overpay for Mayo in a trade. Hardly anyone is going to put Randolph or Lopez ahead of Mayo, so if the wolves prefer them (or some other big), why not get a deal in place? I'm not sold on Mayo at all, but at #3 he has the best chance of being a superstar.

Even if they have no deal in place, they have to take Mayo, and see what other teams will offer. If no better offer arises, I'm comfortable keeping him.
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Post#92 » by funkatron101 » Mon Apr 21, 2008 9:28 pm

There are a lot of Wolves fans who are thinking about trying to snag POB in free agency. Nellie never gave him a chance, and he still has potential. Maybe as much as any other big in this draft, it's hard to say at this point.

McHale and Rashad seem to have a strained relationship at times, as McHale wants him off the bench (which is a good spot for him). Wolves fans are a bit in limbo as to McCants future with the team.

With that in mind, I begrudgingly pick Mayo, even if our back court seems a bit cluttered.
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Post#93 » by Tor » Mon Apr 21, 2008 10:33 pm

funkatron101 wrote:There are a lot of Wolves fans who are thinking about trying to snag POB in free agency. Nellie never gave him a chance, and he still has potential. Maybe as much as any other big in this draft, it's hard to say at this point.

McHale and Rashad seem to have a strained relationship at times, as McHale wants him off the bench (which is a good spot for him). Wolves fans are a bit in limbo as to McCants future with the team.

With that in mind, I begrudgingly pick Mayo, even if our back court seems a bit cluttered.


First of all, you indeed are correct about O'Bryant. The fact he's a Minnesota native doesn't hurt either.

Secondly, it's actually Wittman and Rashad that seem to clash...not Rashad and McHale. If anything, McHale wants Rashad to play more. I think that's one big difference between Wittman and McHale...their opinion on McCants. For me personally, I love the guy even though he's clearly a distraction at times.

Third and last, if we land the 3rd pick, I'd go with Mayo hands down. There's no one outside of Mayo, Rose, and Beasley who appear to have superstar potential. Would anyone say Lopez has superstar potential? I certainly hope no ones says that, because he doesn't. So it would be rather ridiculous to draft someone purely based on need over someone who has a good chance of being a star. Who cares that we already have Foye and McCants...we're talking instant offense from the backcourt during all 4 quarters of the game if we have all 3. There would never be a moment during the game where none of these guys aren't on the floor. Sign me up for that any day. It reminds me of what the Sonics were trying to do with Rashard Lewis at the last minute. They made a last ditch effort to keep him so they would have interchangeable athletic 6-9 forwards on the floor at all times during games (Durant, Green, Lewis). This would be similar, only it would be at the SG/PG spot.


In summary....Mayo, MAYO, MAYYYYOOOO!!!!!
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Post#94 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Apr 22, 2008 3:24 pm

superstar or not, Lopez is the best fit for the Wolves.

Mayo reminds me of Arenas or McGrady, lots of talent, but their mentality just isn't conducive to a championship team. Weirdos don't lead teams to championships.
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Post#95 » by revprodeji » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:32 pm

Mayo is not a weirdo...And plenty of weirdo's went to the ship. You almost have to be a "Weirdo" to make it.
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Post#96 » by Klomp » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:46 pm

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Post#97 » by dunkonu21 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 4:53 pm

Rev it is interesting that you are so quick to say Jordan has a bad work ethic, even though professional scouts won't commit to it as definitively as you do. My point is, that it's still under question.

I agree that Mayo is the 3rd pick for us. After Mayo I don't want any of the other guards. I can see Foye and/or McCants having as much success in the NBA as Bayless and Gordon so why waste a pick and become the Chicago Bulls.

You have to consider chemistry in this too, how many of our core guys are gonna appreciate us taking a guard. Foye wont, McCants wont, Jefferson wont. Why mess with the good chemistry and have bickering.
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Post#98 » by Tor » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:11 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:superstar or not, Lopez is the best fit for the Wolves.

Mayo reminds me of Arenas or McGrady, lots of talent, but their mentality just isn't conducive to a championship team. Weirdos don't lead teams to championships.


That's what I'm saying though, you can't draft need over superstar potential. It would be incredibly ridiculous to do so. Later on in the first round teams might be able to justify going for need over potential, but not when we're talking top 3 pick here.
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Post#99 » by hard49 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 6:53 pm

Devilzsidewalk wrote:superstar or not, Lopez is the best fit for the Wolves.

Mayo reminds me of Arenas or McGrady, lots of talent, but their mentality just isn't conducive to a championship team. Weirdos don't lead teams to championships.


So you think Lopez will lead them to a championship? :noway: :crazy: :rofl:
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Post#100 » by dunkonu21 » Tue Apr 22, 2008 7:05 pm

Lopez will give us a big body and some defensive presence. He won't bring us to a championship. I doubt Brook Lopez will ever be a starter to a team that goes to the championship, unless it's the Spurs.

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