2022 NBA Draft Part II

[shangrila]

Best big likely remaining in the second round?

Jaylin Williams
Christian Koloko
Ismeal Kamagate
Trevion Williams

Koloko and Kamagate are the "flashy-ier potential" picks, but I just like the way both Williams play and specifically think the game. I love Jaylin defensive IQ and Trevions crisp passing, which could be bordering on elite.

I think in terms of prospects it's Koloko. He's got a good intersection of current skill and athleticism for future potential.

But I agree that both Williams are incredibly interesting.

[SelfishPlayer]

Christian Koloko possibly may experience accelerated exponential development because he started basketball late. A positive sign for me would be that he hits his free throws and finishes with touch using either hand. Embiid and Siakam are also late basketball starters from Cameroon.

[jezzerinho]

Kolokos FT shooting form is really nice and also pleasingly consistent. I'd be betting the over on him having an offensive game broader than lobs and layups.

[SelfishPlayer]

Christian Braun looks to me to be undersold as an NBA lead ball handler. He has the size, explosion, passing ability, scoring mentality, and projected defensive versatility. Looking at the Finals, he fits right into the completely spaced half court. He's literally Alex Caruso. Braun's arms may be short, but he's solidly built, and his short arms mean less if he's the lead ballhandler on the floor with several wings. LOL, as I typed that, wings could be nomenclature to denote great wingspan.

[basketballRob]

Jabari in Orlando today.

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[CptCrunch]

Listen to Jabari speak then listen to Dyson Daniels.

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I don't know how much verbal communication skills/interview performance matters, but its night and day between these two, most other players are in the spectrum in between.

[azcatz11]

Listen to Jabari speak then listen to Dyson Daniels.

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I don't know how much verbal communication skills/interview performance matters, but its night and day between these two, most other players are in the spectrum in between.

How is it night and day between the two? Jabari just says 'like' more - I'm missing your point

[SelfishPlayer]

No one on the internet has addressed Dyson Daniels' poor free throw shooting. This is very odd.

[basketballRob]

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[clyde21]

loved that mentioned Tatum, that's his closest comp and glad he recognizes that and watches him play.

[BlazersBroncos]

No one on the internet has addressed Dyson Daniels' poor free throw shooting. This is very odd.

Because its not a huge isse?

Dyson - 74% 19YO
Mathurian - 76% 0YO
Ivey - 74% 20.YO
Davis - 79% 20YO
Dieng - 67% 19YO
Griffin - 79% 18YO
Agbaji - 74% 22YO
Kendall - 69% 19YO
Branham - 83% 19YO
Hardy - 88% 20YO
TyTy - 75% 20YO

The only ones that stand out, good or bad, are Dieng and Hardy w/ Kendall and Branham to a lesser extent.

[SelfishPlayer]

No one on the internet has addressed Dyson Daniels' poor free throw shooting. This is very odd.

Because its not a huge isse?

Dyson - 74% 19YO
Mathurian - 76% 0YO
Ivey - 74% 20.YO
Davis - 79% 20YO
Dieng - 67% 19YO
Griffin - 79% 18YO
Agbaji - 74% 22YO
Kendall - 69% 19YO
Branham - 83% 19YO
Hardy - 88% 20YO
TyTy - 75% 20YO

The only ones that stand out, good or bad, are Dieng and Hardy w/ Kendall and Branham to a lesser extent.

That's the problem. Dyson's season was split up. There is no average total of the split seasons available. It's the biggest oversight going! People only quote one portion, which you have.

[clyde21]

Listen to Jabari speak then listen to Dyson Daniels.

Watch on YouTube

I don't know how much verbal communication skills/interview performance matters, but its night and day between these two, most other players are in the spectrum in between.

congratulations on some of the most vapid, useless analysis on this board. who the **** cares?

[DOT]

No one on the internet has addressed Dyson Daniels' poor free throw shooting. This is very odd.

Because its not a huge isse?

Dyson - 74% 19YO
Mathurian - 76% 0YO
Ivey - 74% 20.YO
Davis - 79% 20YO
Dieng - 67% 19YO
Griffin - 79% 18YO
Agbaji - 74% 22YO
Kendall - 69% 19YO
Branham - 83% 19YO
Hardy - 88% 20YO
TyTy - 75% 20YO

The only ones that stand out, good or bad, are Dieng and Hardy w/ Kendall and Branham to a lesser extent.

That's the problem. Dyson's season was split up. There is no average total of the split seasons available. It's the biggest oversight going! People only quote one portion, which you have.

I don't watch much of the G League, but by https://gleague.nba.com/, it looks like there was a "Showcase" and an "Ignite Tour"

Daniels went 14-19 in the showcase, 10-26 in the tour, for a total of 24-45, which is 53% overall

I would say though, this data is inconclusive, because 45 free throws really isn't a large enough sample, he shot 74% in half his games, 38% the other half

So he might be good, he might be ****, he might be mediocre. I couldn't find high school stats, which I figure would be a better indicator, so if you can find them, by all means.

[SelfishPlayer]

Because its not a huge isse?

Dyson - 74% 19YO
Mathurian - 76% 0YO
Ivey - 74% 20.YO
Davis - 79% 20YO
Dieng - 67% 19YO
Griffin - 79% 18YO
Agbaji - 74% 22YO
Kendall - 69% 19YO
Branham - 83% 19YO
Hardy - 88% 20YO
TyTy - 75% 20YO

The only ones that stand out, good or bad, are Dieng and Hardy w/ Kendall and Branham to a lesser extent.

That's the problem. Dyson's season was split up. There is no average total of the split seasons available. It's the biggest oversight going! People only quote one portion, which you have.

I don't watch much of the G League, but by https://gleague.nba.com/, it looks like there was a "Showcase" and an "Ignite Tour"

Daniels went 14-19 in the showcase, 10-26 in the tour, for a total of 24-45, which is 53% overall

I would say though, this data is inconclusive, because 45 free throws really isn't a large enough sample, he shot 74% in half his games, 38% the other half

So he might be good, he might be ****, he might be mediocre. I couldn't find high school stats, which I figure would be a better indicator, so if you can find them, by all means.

My approach is to simply hold him accountable for being a 53% FT shooter and treat him like prospects that played in Europe who pretty much always have stats split between several leagues in a single basketball year. You just go with the total average because this is how bad free throw shooters shoot frequently, they can get "hot" for who they are for a month but regress back to who they truly are at the end of the day.

[CptCrunch]

'Exact' 80% Clopper–Pearson confidence intervals for FT shooting for top prospects (on Ringer's board + Ty Ty).

Sorted by upper end outcome (10% on right tail).

tl;dr if you don't read too much into the theory and interpretation of frequentist intervals and only look at the numbers, this is a decent proxy indicator of NBA shooting potential, assuming that FT and 3pt shooting are correlated.

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===========  ====  =====  =====
Player       mean  lower  upper
===========  ====  =====  =====
Hardy        0.88   0.80   0.94
Griffin Jr   0.79   0.72   0.85
Daniels      0.74   0.60   0.84
Smith Jr     0.80   0.76   0.83
Mathurin     0.79   0.76   0.82
Davis        0.78   0.75   0.81
Washington   0.75   0.68   0.81
Murray       0.75   0.72   0.78
M. Williams  0.73   0.67   0.78
Ivey         0.74   0.71   0.77
Dieng        0.67   0.55   0.77
Banchero     0.73   0.69   0.76
Holmgren     0.72   0.66   0.76
Duren        0.62   0.57   0.68
Sochan       0.59   0.53   0.64
===========  ====  =====  =====

[SelfishPlayer]

You also can't use Dyson's low free throw attempts as a positive. For one he doesn't get to the line very much as a point guard, that's a negative for your ball handler. When he does get to the free throw line the percentage that he shoots is in the 50's. WTF! Learning from watching Ben Simmons, another poor free throw shooting Australian PG, the reason Dyson may not go to the free throw line very much is because he could be avoiding it altogether.

[BlazersBroncos]

Listen to Jabari speak then listen to Dyson Daniels.

Watch on YouTube

I don't know how much verbal communication skills/interview performance matters, but its night and day between these two, most other players are in the spectrum in between.

congratulations on some of the most vapid, useless analysis on this board. who the **** cares?

I wont critique Jabari (Have not even seen the interview) but Dyson did give a hell of an interview for a 19YO. Modest, articulate in his BBall knowledge, etc.

Then again I just love Aussies so maybe its just the accent.

[K_chile22]

You also can't use Dyson's low free throw attempts as a positive. For one he doesn't get to the line very much as a point guard, that's a negative for your ball handler. When he does get to the free throw line the percentage that he shoots is in the 50's. WTF! Learning from watching Ben Simmons, another poor free throw shooting Australian PG, the reason Dyson may not go to the free throw line very much is because he could be avoiding it altogether.

In the g league they shoot 1 FT for 2 (or 3) points, so that lowers his attempts

[SelfishPlayer]

Jabari Smith has some interesting workout videos displaying handle, off ball movement, and some of the cleanest makes you will ever see from a non NBA player.

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