Future draft classes

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Caleb Swanigan to MSU

well there goes the rumors to Berkley lol.

Hopefully all of these McD AAs to the B1G means Jaylen Brown to UM lol

[immortalone23]

Caleb Swanigan to MSU

well there goes the rumors to Berkley lol.

Hopefully all of these McD AAs to the B1G means Jaylen Brown to UM lol

Lol no! I hope not.

[BarnesTheSavior]

What's the thoughts on Ingram as a pro prospect?

He's been blowing up since that Adidas camp back in July and now the staff on Scout said earlier today it's highly likely he will finish in their top 5 rankings. He's gone h2h twice against Brown during this period and it would be fair to say he outplayed Brown overall. He definitely outplayed Brown h2h during the Mcdonalds week, as Ingram was considered arguably the most impressive player there by most. Also I remember a quote from an EC exec saying something along the lines of, "That's the top player in this class?", commenting about Brown and his underwhelming practice that day. To be fair, I do believe Brown picked it up towards the end of the week and he had a solid game. Apparently Ingram has continued his strong finish into the practices of the Hoop Summit. He was a late addition because of the injury to Ellenson and he's being used in the starting lineup (with Brunson, Newman, Rabb, and Zimmerman). Brown did sit the scrimmage with an injury, so that might be why. Either way, it's uncommon for players to break through from that 20-40 range to the top 5 in the last couple months. You have to be playing at an exceptionally high level, along with the obvious upside.

He seems to have a good touch and you can clearly see how much his handle has improved over the last year. Doing it all on visibly long, 6-8 frame. The reason for his rise has been a change in mentality to be more aggressive (or so that what Ingram claims). He just flat out gets buckets.

I do worry about his lateral quickness and he's one of the skinniest people I have ever seen. Interestingly about the latter is he has and will undoubtedly have trouble defensively (although his immense length helps some), but on offense he hasn't been pushed around as much as one would expect. Tough guy. Rebounds in traffic with good hands. However, I'm really interested as to just how much weight he can put on. I'm getting some Austin Daye flashbacks.

[No-Man]

Ingram looks good but damn he is skinny, but the guy has Durant length.

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Jamal Murray has supposedly made huge strides as a playmaker to go along with that jumpshot and size. I think there is a good chance he goes one and done. I see some Ennis and some Russell in him so I expect him to put up numbers as a freshman.

I guess they were right. Doubt my Wolverines get him now

[Go_Hornets]

Is Auburn the favorite for Josh Jackson?

[DirtyDez]

Is Arizona the favorite for Josh Jackson?

Fixed and yes.

[No-Man]

MSU is going to be crazy good next year, they lose some important players, but if Valentine comes back, plus Eron Harris and the class they have coming in,... its the best roster I thinked they have had since a looong time ago.

Nairn-Forbes
Harris-Ellis-McQuaid
Valentine-Bess-Ahrens
Costello-Davis-Clark
Swanigan-Schilling

[No-Man]

and by the way, why Jamal Murray is scheduled to play NCAA a year from now, when he is already 18? and where is he supposed to go? I have seen that Oregon is the favourite, but that his list is still big and he could get calls from bigger programs now.

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and by the way, why Jamal Murray is scheduled to play NCAA a year from now, when he is already 18? and where is he supposed to go? I have seen that Oregon is the favourite, but that his list is still big and he could get calls from bigger programs now.

He is staying close to the border.

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Rabb to Cal

Could be good if Tyrone Wallace returns

[Marcus]

Rabb to Cal

Could be good if Tyrone Wallace returns

very good pickup for Berkley.

[No-Man]

Seems like the writing is on the wall, and Duke will be getting Thornton Jr., Ingram and Vrankovic.

Thornton-Allen
Allen-Kennard
Ingram-Jones
Jefferson-Obi
Jeter-Plumlee-Vrankovic

What a way to bounce back.

[Marcus]

Seems like the writing is on the wall, and Duke will be getting Thornton Jr., Ingram and Vrankovic.

Thornton-Allen
Allen-Kennard
Ingram-Jones
Jefferson-Obi
Jeter-Plumlee-Vrankovic

What a way to bounce back.

between Ingram, Kennard, Allen, and Jeter that's a lot of potential buckets. they should stick with a running style to capitalize on that.

[No-Man]

They probably will, I mean Thornton is amazing and all that, but he is really young, and Allen is not a PG, they are going to have some issues if they play half court ball.

[Marcus]

They probably will, I mean Thornton is amazing and all that, but he is really young, and Allen is not a PG, they are going to have some issues if they play half court ball.

so we're talking about a Thornton reclass then because i thought he was in the 16 class?

but yeah open floor works better than half court for this team. Jeter isn't Jah on the block and even though he's improved his post game isn't anywhere near as threatening as Jah's was. I do think they'll be able to run some PnR action with him and Thornton with Kennard, Ingram, and Allen as the shooters on the kickout. Thornton's pull up game is nice and he's paced and shifty enough to probe and force rotations to open up those looks.

They're certainly gonna see a drop off in terms of what Jah opened up but they shouldn't be completely inept in half court sets with that talent.

[EricAnderson]

Seems like the writing is on the wall, and Duke will be getting Thornton Jr., Ingram and Vrankovic.

Thornton-Allen
Allen-Kennard
Ingram-Jones
Jefferson-Obi
Jeter-Plumlee-Vrankovic

What a way to bounce back.

How is Thorntons game? Sounds like he's a pure point from what I've heard

Dukes 16/17 team should be pretty sick..with most of those players back and add Giles/Tatum/Smith Jr that's insane

[Marcus]

How is Thorntons game? Sounds like he's a pure point from what I've heard

oh its definitely something to see sir.

There won't be a dropoff at the PG spot for Duke if he reclasses and goes to Duke, put it that way. He isn't as much of a savant as Tyus is but he's very poised, paced, switches gears, tight handle (some say Kyrie esque, i think that's pushing it a little though) good pull up and midrange game, quicker release, smallish kid, not very physically strong, quick though, not an exploder off the floor but has a very mean floater game already, finishes with either hand around the cup with a backboard kiss game (poor man Kyrie level), most importantly though that knock that Duke guards got on defense last year won't exist with this kid. He gives up size but his effort is crazy and he takes pride in shutting down his guy, takes it personal when his man scores, pesky with the hands, heats up the dribbler, racked up on-ball charges and 5 second violations this year.

Not saying much but a reclass would make him the best PG in the 2015 class. he's behind Dennis Smith in the 2016 class at the moment because he's not the athlete Dennis is.

Derryck basically provides all the flash and sexy time stuff that Tyus didn't give the folks that see Tyus as nothing special whilst maintaining (although not on the same level) all the nuances that Tyus does bring to the table that makes him special to the select few of us that see his game as much more than the masses seem to.

[EricAnderson]

How is Thorntons game? Sounds like he's a pure point from what I've heard

oh its definitely something to see sir.

There won't be a dropoff at the PG spot for Duke if he reclasses and goes to Duke, put it that way. He isn't as much of a savant as Tyus is but he's very poised, paced, switches gears, tight handle (some say Kyrie esque, i think that's pushing it a little though) good pull up and midrange game, quicker release, smallish kid, not very physically strong, quick though, not an exploder off the floor but has a very mean floater game already, finishes with either hand around the cup with a backboard kiss game (poor man Kyrie level), most importantly though that knock that Duke guards got on defense last year won't exist with this kid. He gives up size but his effort is crazy and he takes pride in shutting down his guy, takes it personal when his man scores, pesky with the hands, heats up the dribbler, racked up on-ball charges and 5 second violations this year.

Not saying much but a reclass would make him the best PG in the 2015 class. he's behind Dennis Smith in the 2016 class at the moment because he's not the athlete Dennis is.

Derryck basically provides all the flash and sexy time stuff that Tyus didn't give the folks that see Tyus as nothing special whilst maintaining (although not on the same level) all the nuances that Tyus does bring to the table that makes him special to the select few of us that see his game as much more than the masses seem to.

Great description..Sounds like he's not a one and done type player?

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How is Thorntons game? Sounds like he's a pure point from what I've heard

oh its definitely something to see sir.

There won't be a dropoff at the PG spot for Duke if he reclasses and goes to Duke, put it that way. He isn't as much of a savant as Tyus is but he's very poised, paced, switches gears, tight handle (some say Kyrie esque, i think that's pushing it a little though) good pull up and midrange game, quicker release, smallish kid, not very physically strong, quick though, not an exploder off the floor but has a very mean floater game already, finishes with either hand around the cup with a backboard kiss game (poor man Kyrie level), most importantly though that knock that Duke guards got on defense last year won't exist with this kid. He gives up size but his effort is crazy and he takes pride in shutting down his guy, takes it personal when his man scores, pesky with the hands, heats up the dribbler, racked up on-ball charges and 5 second violations this year.

Not saying much but a reclass would make him the best PG in the 2015 class. he's behind Dennis Smith in the 2016 class at the moment because he's not the athlete Dennis is.

Derryck basically provides all the flash and sexy time stuff that Tyus didn't give the folks that see Tyus as nothing special whilst maintaining (although not on the same level) all the nuances that Tyus does bring to the table that makes him special to the select few of us that see his game as much more than the masses seem to.

Great description..Sounds like he's not a one and done type player?

He is small and not very long so he will have to live in the weight room for a season or two. Also needs to extend his range out to 3. Probably 2 and done.