Ben Simmons

[splendidham]

Are you watching the same game as everyone else bud? There were no plays run for Simmons whatsoever. That is not what anyone would call playing together. They failed to utilize there best strength. There players all look for their own shots even if they aren't there and try and play hero ball instead of going in for a sure 2 points pretty much every time with Simmons. Even with nobody looking for Simmons and failing to run any plays for him, Simmons still had a phenomenal game in his limited touches. 6/7 from the field, 9 rebounds (4 offensive) and 5 assists and was probably most impressive on the defensive end. This is why Simmons is going to be way better in the nba because coaches will run plays for him and utilize his ridiculous strengths and abilities. You get the feeling when watching Simmons that he is close to unguardable when he takes it to the rim or decides to score.

do you understand that not every team runs set plays for its players or stars. They have offenses that put them in positions to read/react and attack. He had a great game but there offense is fluid enough for him to get however many touches he wants...if wants to get the ball he can flash or even attack from from the wing or top of the key. His teammates don't look him off.

He will be better in the NBA because it will be more wide open but he is really good here too. What I take offense to is you calling THIS performance today selfish by those kids...i didnt see that and doubt it happened. They played hard and together and put up a great effort against the #1 team in the country.

Sikma it's not just today's performance by some of Ben's LSU team mates that I'm calling selfish. I've witnessed this throughout the entire season. There are particular players on this team that are selfish and consistently look for their own shots when they just aren't there or when there were so many better options. Way to many misses and bad decisions time and time again. They don't pass it to Ben when they should, specifically when it would have easily resulted in easy buckets. These players are being selfish and everyone here can see it.

Maybe not selfish but more lacking awareness, or the ability to make the correct decision. I haven't seen anyone *hog* the ball but have seen plenty of bad decisions. Going away from Ben my have been one of them. Ben deferring to his teammates may have been an equally bad decision but if they want to win, they are going to have to do it together. Ben dominating the ball probably would have netted them a win today but playing as a team, (and to that you need to believe in their abilities) while it may lead to fewer wins now, they'll end up a better team later in the season because of it


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[bigboi]

Simmons didn't look impressive tbh, Buddy Hield played much better

[Dcebucks11]

Every time Ben touched the ball the paint was packed, they know what he wants to do which is drive to the basket and not shoot.. You can only take what the defense gives you and that's the case with Ben for now...

He's been doing good, hustling in transition, getting offensive boards etc.. That helps the team

I have to say, he is now reminding me a lot more of Blake Griffin

[HotelVitale]

I have to say, he is now reminding me a lot more of Blake Griffin

Griffin's strength, athleticism, and ability to impose his will on games were all on a different level from Simmons. Watch a minute of Griffin's college highlights side by side with Simmons'--Griffin looks like another species while Simmons looks like a very skilled, reasonably big guy.

That's not a criticism of Simmons, just don't see how you can compare someone who isn't beastly strong/athletic with Griffin. All of Griffin's game follows from that.

[GimmeDat]

I think people go to the Griffin comparison because you've got a guy that likes to attack the hole, had a limited jumper coming out of college, and is a good ball handler/passer, but there's a few fairly fundamentally different elements to their games.

I think people don't realize this isn't a PF that can handle in transition, this is literally a guy that can play PG in the half-court.

[bigboi]

I think people go to the Griffin comparison because you've got a guy that likes to attack the hole, had a limited jumper coming out of college, and is a good ball handler/passer, but there's a few fairly fundamentally different elements to their games.

I think people don't realize this isn't a PF that can handle in transition, this is literally a guy that can play PG in the half-court.

I honestly don't think he can play PG in half court. His passing is impressive in transition, but his overall offense including passing doesn't impress me in the halfcourt

[No-Man]

I think people go to the Griffin comparison because you've got a guy that likes to attack the hole, had a limited jumper coming out of college, and is a good ball handler/passer, but there's a few fairly fundamentally different elements to their games.

I think people don't realize this isn't a PF that can handle in transition, this is literally a guy that can play PG in the half-court.

Griffin is a more skilled ballhandler than Simmons and a better athlete and he cant really play fulltime PG in halfcourt, neither do Ben

[nurseryc]

I think people go to the Griffin comparison because you've got a guy that likes to attack the hole, had a limited jumper coming out of college, and is a good ball handler/passer, but there's a few fairly fundamentally different elements to their games.

I think people don't realize this isn't a PF that can handle in transition, this is literally a guy that can play PG in the half-court.

Griffin is a more skilled ballhandler than Simmons and a better athlete and he cant really play fulltime PG in halfcourt, neither do Ben

Disagree. Simmons is an overall more skilled ballhandler and player than Griffin with a higher upside if he is to realise his potential.

Simmons is shining in college basketball and is the consensus number 1 pick in next years draft, all this without any plays at all being drawn up for him. Scouts see this talent and realise how much of a beast he is going to be in the NBA once talented coaches get hold of him in the nba and actually run plays for him and utilise his strengths.

[rick_21]

You are seriously underestimating how insanely good Blake Griffin was coming out of college.

[Dame Lizard]

I have to say, he is now reminding me a lot more of Blake Griffin

Griffin's strength, athleticism, and ability to impose his will on games were all on a different level from Simmons. Watch a minute of Griffin's college highlights side by side with Simmons'--Griffin looks like another species while Simmons looks like a very skilled, reasonably big guy.

That's not a criticism of Simmons, just don't see how you can compare someone who isn't beastly strong/athletic with Griffin. All of Griffin's game follows from that.

Griffin certainly wasn't, nor ever has been as quick as Simmons. Simmons' speed is simply ridiculous- I've never seen a guy his size be as quick as him. Lebron is the only thing which comes to mind in that department (Lebron's 2 inches shorter though). Obviously Griffin's a much better leaper and much stronger, but Ben also has more length/height.

[Rastas]

I think people don't realize this isn't a PF that can handle in transition, this is literally a guy that can play PG in the half-court.[/quote]
Griffin is a more skilled ballhandler than Simmons and a better athlete and he cant really play fulltime PG in halfcourt, neither do Ben[/quote]


Haha , thanks I needed a good laugh , now go tell us a story about some of your great euro prospects that are also WAY better than Simmons

[HotelVitale]

I have to say, he is now reminding me a lot more of Blake Griffin

Griffin's strength, athleticism, and ability to impose his will on games were all on a different level from Simmons. Watch a minute of Griffin's college highlights side by side with Simmons'--Griffin looks like another species while Simmons looks like a very skilled, reasonably big guy. That's not a criticism of Simmons, just don't see how you can compare someone who isn't beastly strong/athletic with Griffin. All of Griffin's game follows from that.

Griffin certainly wasn't, nor ever has been as quick as Simmons. Simmons' speed is simply ridiculous- I've never seen a guy his size be as quick as him. Lebron is the only thing which comes to mind in that department (Lebron's 2 inches shorter though). Obviously Griffin's a much better leaper and much stronger, but Ben also has more length/height.

Not comparing their quality/value as prospects, just saying that Griffin didn't look anything like Simmons as a college player and I don't see the comp between them being effective or useful. (Also, Griffin and Simmons have virtually the same ht + length, 1/2 inch difference in both seems negligible.)

But since you mentioned it, I don't think of Simmons as super quick. He's fast in transition but his first step doesn't seem great for a NBA-caliber player. I can remember a few times when he crossed guys over but I'm not sure he has above average NBA quickness, let alone elite. Not in the same building as 19 year-old Lebron. I'll check the videos again when I have time, though, could be wrong. The things that sticks out when watching him are body control and court awareness/vision, otherwise I have him as a good all-around athlete who's bigger than the average NBA SF. (Which isn't a knock, I think he's a future all-star.)

[Mike X]

Nice game today by Ben, did what he wanted in the first, did what the coach wanted in the 2nd.

Hit 3 or 4 jumpers from 10-18ft. Really seems like he's found his stroke lately.

[splendidham]

Yeah, his shot is completely broke...
Personally I think it's starting to look pretty good and it's definitely creeping it's way into his game more and more game by game. I think he could have had 50 in a game, maybe even more than once if he wasn't so unselfish


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[nurseryc]

Ben emphatically answered his critics today showing off his good form on his jumper. The bulk of Simmons points came from long range jump shots. Simmons finished with 21 points, 13 rebounds and seven assists in another very dominating display and win for LSU. Most exciting is that Ben is starting to look really confident with his outside game.

Ben Simmons with a good jump shot is the exciting prospect to come along in basketball since Lebron.

[nurseryc]

It's hilarious how all those people who were criticizing Ben's outside shot or lack thereof, have now all the sudden gone quiet.

[Dcebucks11]

He made two mid range jumpers in a game and now he's got a jumper .. jesus

Ben Simmons might make more mid range jumpers than Kidd-Gilchrist in his college season if he keeps this up..

I don't think he needs a jumper to be great but lets stop acting like he has a jumper that'll scare anyone into guarding it.

[nurseryc]

He made two mid range jumpers in a game and now he's got a jumper .. jesus

Ben Simmons might make more mid range jumpers than Kidd-Gilchrist in his college season if he keeps this up..

I don't think he needs a jumper to be great but lets stop acting like he has a jumper that'll scare anyone into guarding it.

He actually hit five of seven from the floor in a dominant first half.

Give credit when it is due -

[Dcebucks11]

He made two mid range jumpers in a game and now he's got a jumper .. jesus

Ben Simmons might make more mid range jumpers than Kidd-Gilchrist in his college season if he keeps this up..

I don't think he needs a jumper to be great but lets stop acting like he has a jumper that'll scare anyone into guarding it.

He actually hit five of seven from the floor in a dominant first half.

Give credit when it is due -

I watched the game, and his highlights of all his points.. He hit two mid range jumpers ... Great job!

Credit given

[nurseryc]

He made two mid range jumpers in a game and now he's got a jumper .. jesus

Ben Simmons might make more mid range jumpers than Kidd-Gilchrist in his college season if he keeps this up..

I don't think he needs a jumper to be great but lets stop acting like he has a jumper that'll scare anyone into guarding it.

He actually hit five of seven from the floor in a dominant first half.

Give credit when it is due -

I watched the game, and his highlights of all his points.. He hit two mid range jumpers ... Great job!

Credit given

Your choosing to specifically talk about mid range jumpers. My point is his points aren't just coming from under the basket anymore. He is taking jump shots and is proving to be effective in converting them. There is good reason to believe he has turned a corner with his shooting and is starting to prove his detractors wrong.

He may have only made 2 mid range jumpers however he also hit other jumpers in the game (other than from this distance which your focusing on).