2020 NBA Draft

MemphisX · Post #961 » by **MemphisX** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:35 am

HeadtopChunes wrote:You guys think Paul Reed is a top 20 talent ?

In this draft, most likely. Teams should be going for singles instead of homeruns. Get a guy who will have a defined role.

azcatz11 · Post #962 » by **azcatz11** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 1:15 am

zimpy27 wrote:I think the Arizona Wildcats should be up there as a favourite for the title.

I am holding any judgement until we play Gonzaga in a couple of weeks

King Ken · Post #963 » by **King Ken** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:01 am

No one wants to say it but what if Tre Jones is the next Deron Williams. Too early to call considering his previously inconsistent shooting but I want to put it out there. I have been calling him that personally since his freshman year but been holding back since I was wishing he would return back to Durham.

King Ken · Post #964 » by **King Ken** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:03 am

clyde21 wrote:PJ was insanely underrated, even here on this board which usually does a good job fleshing prospects out, he really was a prototype PF prospect, 6-8 but a 7-2 wingspan, can switch, can score on 3 levels, a good inside-out passer, can run the court, etc.

Carey is none of these things really...he's big and strong but is primarily a 1 level offensive player and has no semblance of playmaking at this point, he's also very meh defensively, gets by by just being a big body no nuance

I agree Carey will need some serious development to get to year 2 P.J.

King Ken · Post #965 » by **King Ken** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:06 am

Fischella wrote:This class is just very raw, it's a rough year to draft difficult to really get a read on a bunch of guys, I hope they stay put and strengthen 2021, but some will unequivocally leave early

I always wait till Jan because so many guys emerge as Clarke did.

LofJ · Post #966 » by **LofJ** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:55 pm

King Ken wrote:No one wants to say it but what if Tre Jones is the next Deron Williams. Too early to call considering his previously inconsistent shooting but I want to put it out there. I have been calling him that personally since his freshman year but been holding back since I was wishing he would return back to Durham.

On last year's Duke team, after Zion, he was the player I was most impressed with. I like Barrett, but he pressed way, way too much and it made him look like a low IQ player. Tre Jones on the other hand was always cool and collected, he plays like a professional should.

If Tre keeps his current play going he should get taken in the lottery. I'd draft him before Maxey and Mannion.

No-Man · Post #967 » by **No-Man** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 4:23 pm

Clarke was obvious from even before he got to Gonzaga, had everything but the shot

The-Power · Post #968 » by **The-Power** » Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:05 pm

Grimes with a lot of confidence yesterday. Happy for him that he could bring the win home – I want to see what a confident Grimes can do this year.

Also, I'm in love with Haliburton's passing. It's just looks so effortless and easy but is something only very few players are able to do. I have my concerns about him but he's a basketball savant, no doubt.

Big O was beasting yesterday, and Isaiah Joe caught fire in the second half yesterday – worth watching their highlights.

Post #969 » by **Marcus** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 12:27 am

OT: Since the college board is dead I'll post this question here.

We don't have to stay on this topic long just a quick question. How many of you guys are enjoying the talent level you're seeing at the bluebloods RN?

So the recent OAD powerhouses are void of 1st round talents this year and i was thinking once the OAD rule is lifted this might be more of the norm in terms of play. How many of you are still tuned in for that?

King Ken · Post #970 » by **King Ken** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:06 am

I didn't Grimes was eligible.

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remi_222 · Post #971 » by **remi_222** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:43 pm

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HeadtopChunes · Post #972 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 5:34 pm

remi_222 wrote:

Read on Twitter

Hayes is probably my #1 euro guy right now.

Post #973 » by **Duke4life831** » Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:10 pm

Marcus wrote:OT: Since the college board is dead I'll post this question here.

We don't have to stay on this topic long just a quick question. How many of you guys are enjoying the talent level you're seeing at the bluebloods RN?

So the recent OAD powerhouses are void of 1st round talents this year and i was thinking once the OAD rule is lifted this might be more of the norm in terms of play. How many of you are still tuned in for that?

Ive talked about this with other Duke fans a lot this season and I think its kind of interesting. This may become quiet a long post so Im expecting some TLDR replies haha.

As a Duke fan this class is such a weird feeling to me (Im sure UK fans might feel the same way). You're used to seeing these elite talents come through and you kind of think, "okay that is a true OAD talent". Im talking the Zion's, RJ, Tatum, Bagley, WCJ, KAT, AD and so on. Those are the guys that come in, make a huge impact and then leave after a year. As a fan of the team, its all good because they came in and dominated and went to become a top pick in the NBA. But then you have your OADs like a Trevon Duval. A guy comes in, as a freshman struggles for the majority of the year and looks like a freshman. Pretty much the typical, guy needs to comeback and tighten up his game kind of player. But he still bounces after 1 year to go undrafted. From a fan perspective of the team, that kind of seems like a wasted year. Kid wasn't good enough to be OAD impact wise or draft wise, but still was one.

That gets me to this year's recruiting class. There are no true OAD guys in Duke's recruiting class this year. Vernon Carey might be the only guy who might find himself getting a guaranteed NBA contract after this year. But chances are Vernon, Hurt, Cassius and Moore are all gone after this year. As a Duke fan, it kind of feels like a waste. These guys aren't good players yet, wont be good players at Duke and will leave Duke to maybe get drafted in the 2nd round. So as a Duke fan kind of feels like a wasted year.

But on the flip side, I love this class as a college recruiting class. I pretty much look at this Duke recruiting class as a 4 man Jalen Brunson recruiting class. Highly rated high school recruits that aren't OAD talents. But if they stay in school for a few years they would dominate college basketball and have a great chance to enter the NBA as a skilled smart veteran and carve a roster spot out that way. The thing is though, that means they would return to school for 2-3 years like Jalen did. So if I looked at this team that way, this year is far more fun as a Duke fan. Talented freshman, but clearly not NBA players who should be fun to watch and grow into dominant college players and possible NBA players within a few years.

But sadly (strictly from a college/Duke fan perspective) these guys aren't taking that route. They're gone no matter what after this year and in my book this year will just be looked at as a very down year for Duke. Instead of a fantastic building block year for the next couple years.

Also to be clear, all of this is from a college basketball fan perspective. I totally can stand back and be all for these guys leaving to get paid and chase big time money.

King Ken · Post #974 » by **King Ken** » Fri Nov 22, 2019 7:39 am

What's the deal with Zeke Niaji, I watched clips and he looks like he has rare BBIQ for a 5 I haven't seen from a freshman center in awhile. Usually when I do, they have low NBA talent and potential. What's this kid's ceiling in your opinion, he looks good to me

Post #975 » by **ThunderBolt** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 1:27 pm

Anyone want to give me their breakdown of Nico Mannion?

Post #976 » by **Duke4life831** » Sat Nov 23, 2019 10:09 pm

ThunderBolt wrote:Anyone want to give me their breakdown of Nico Mannion?

I think the dude is a stud. Now when I say this, I don't think he is ever going to be a superstar or all NBA guard or anything like that. I just love the way the dude plays the game. Super smart player, with a good looking jumper. I think he would go best playing alongside a ball dominant star and being your secondary ball handler. But can run your offense and can shoot it as well. I think he is a guy that will be a long time starter in this league.

pcbothwel · Post #977 » by **pcbothwel** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 12:03 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Anyone want to give me their breakdown of Nico Mannion?

I think the dude is a stud. Now when I say this, I don't think he is ever going to be a superstar or all NBA guard or anything like that. I just love the way the dude plays the game. Super smart player, with a good looking jumper. I think he would go best playing alongside a ball dominant star and being your secondary ball handler. But can run your offense and can shoot it as well. I think he is a guy that you will be a long time starter in this league.

This... Mannion and Tre Jones are being really under appreciated.
Mannion is a rich man's Goran Dragic. He moves better without the ball (Almost Steph like) and has better tools defensively. I think he makes at least one AS team. I currently have him in my top 5 for this draft. If he hits his Ceiling, he's a great mix of Dragic & Kemba...

Jones reminds me of a Kyle Lowry with a more questions about his shot. He's worthy of a late lotto pick.

Both will play a decade plus in the NBA.

King Ken · Post #978 » by **King Ken** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 7:59 am

This is the best PG class since 2009. Not saying Steph is in this class but how that class fed the NBA for PG's over the last 10 years, I expect this class to do the same. People are hyped about the top 3-4 guys (Ball, Cole, Edwards and Wiseman) but what will define this class is the PG's. Even the 2nd round PG's look strong. 2009 was the last class like this. 2018 looking like a strong PG class (Trae, SGA, Sexton, Graham) but that's like 4 PG's and one really special one. This class like 2009 got about 10. I would draft my PG (for the future or backup in this draft). The other positions just aren't that strong. SG is the 2nd strongest but it's weak outside the top tiers. SF is extremely weak. PF/C is a joke outside of the top guys. This draft is PG and SG heavy.

I would bet potential otherwise. I like Jaden McDaniels as a future 4 in the mold of Jon Issac. I like Nnaji. I like Deni Avdija and guys long term guys like Diakite and Queta but this class is a PG class. Once the positional players are gone in the top 8-10. Just pick PG's or trade out.

HeadtopChunes · Post #979 » by **HeadtopChunes** » Sun Nov 24, 2019 10:28 pm

Jahmius Ramsey looks like a definite riser

doordoor123 · Post #980 » by **doordoor123** » Mon Nov 25, 2019 3:21 am

Duke4life831 wrote:
ThunderBolt wrote:Anyone want to give me their breakdown of Nico Mannion?

I think the dude is a stud. Now when I say this, I don't think he is ever going to be a superstar or all NBA guard or anything like that. I just love the way the dude plays the game. Super smart player, with a good looking jumper. I think he would go best playing alongside a ball dominant star and being your secondary ball handler. But can run your offense and can shoot it as well. I think he is a guy that will be a long time starter in this league.

He’s like John Stockton without the fire Stockton had