Alperen Şengün

[nolang1]

Hmm...if he is this far behind in his English that he needs a translator isn't that going to make it hard for him to communicate on the court, in practice, etc?

Read on Twitter

?s=20

I know someone who's worked in the NBA for quite a while, and their comeback for these kinds of things is that Charles Barkley came into the league not knowing much English either and he turned out fine. That very well did hurt his draft stock in the sense that some lottery teams are looking for guys who can put fans in the seats and the extent to which the NBA seems to have trouble marketing even MVP-caliber players like Giannis or Jokic or Luka to the average American sports fan might've scared them away, but it's not like there is some massive glossary of terminology one needs to learn to play basketball.

re: relative strength of the Turkish league compared to other top European leagues, I don't think anyone was really talking it up in this thread mostly because other than the couple of people love to derail threads with such minutiae as whether the 6th place team in the Turkish league could beat the 8th place team in the Greek league, it was sufficient to say that he was clearly playing against better than NCAA level competition while most of the highest-ranked NCAA recruits were either a year older than him or putting together dud seasons.

Between that and his production, he was #1 with a bullet from a stats-only perspective, and I'm sure however much one downgraded him from there had much more to do with his style of play than whether the Turkish league was the 4th or 8th or whatever best domestic league in Europe.

[EvanZ]

Hou had a good draft but it's weird having 4 first round picks, i know it'd be a good problem to have but what if all 4 players (Green/Alpy/Garuba/JC) are up for rookie max extensions in four years

It’s a good problem to have!


Sent from my iPhone using RealGM mobile app

[pad300]

Anybody know which (if any) of the summer leagues he's going to play in?

[pad300]

Hou had a good draft but it's weird having 4 first round picks, i know it'd be a good problem to have but what if all 4 players (Green/Alpy/Garuba/JC) are up for rookie max extensions in four years

I currently suspect that Garuba's not coming (until 2025 or so when his current contract runs out), given what's been said about his buyout... So you only have 3 rookie max's if everything is perfect.

[Shock Defeat]

If the rockets have 4 max quality players in 4 years then they either won a championship that year or something went seriously wrong.

[K_chile22]

Anybody know which (if any) of the summer leagues he's going to play in?

Rockets usually just go to the one in Vegas, and he will play in that one, Stone said so at the presser

[K_chile22]

Hou had a good draft but it's weird having 4 first round picks, i know it'd be a good problem to have but what if all 4 players (Green/Alpy/Garuba/JC) are up for rookie max extensions in four years

I currently suspect that Garuba's not coming (until 2025 or so when his current contract runs out), given what's been said about his buyout... So you only have 3 rookie max's if everything is perfect.

No, he's coming over, Chronicle beat writer Jonathan Feigen, who's THE rockets guy, said as much.

Assuming Houston will pay the max $750k and Garuba will pay the rest over installments spanning a couple years like Luka did, and probably negotiate it down a bit from €3M

[Mirotic12]

is the fit next to Garuba less than ideal with what we expect Garuba to do on the floor?

Consideting that center is the natural position for both of them, that they are both slow on the perimeter defensively, and that Garuba is practically unable to score for the most part, no does not seem like a great fir together.

How many points did Garuba score in the whole Olympics, like 4 or 5 points total? There have been a lot of posts in these forums about him already being decent on offense, which could only come from people that never saw him play a game. He's extremely raw on offense and has no skill or scoring ability really at all. Maybe after the Olympics more people realize that.

So the two of them playing together at the same time doesn't seem like much of a fit really.

[Mirotic12]

NBA supposedly lists players by their in socks height, instead of their in shoes height like it used to do. They round up for every half an inch.

Sengun's last measurement in Europe was said to be 6-9 1/2 without shoes on. If he measured that in NBA, then they would list him at 6-10 in socks. And his in shoes height would be 6-11 (so under the way the NBA traditionally did it, he would be considered 6-11).

So, if Sengun's listings in Europe were correct, and he wasn't "clearly 2-3 inches shorter than advertised" as many NBA fans kept claiming, then he would officially be listed at 6-10 without shoes on by the NBA.

https://www.nba.com/player/1630578/alperen-sengun

Alperen Sengun

HEIGHT

6'10" (2.08m)

Which means his height listing from Europe of 6-9 1/2 without shoes on was correct. Which means he was not 2-3 inches shorter than advertised, as so many NBA fans kept claiming.

So we have the same example of Poku, where so many NBA fans kept claiming he was only 6-9 or 6-10, and now also Sengun. This practice of incorrectly downgrading the height of European prospects by 2-3 inches for no reason, is very strange.

[Clawed]

Not to bring this back up as I am sure you all loved talking about it but as Mirotic12 stated he is listed as 6'10" on official nba website but on the summerleague roster he is lsited as 6'9".

https://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-announce-roster-nba-summer-league-2021

[Yallbecrazy]

Rockets Summer League Roster is a bunch of SGs who can't pass or play the pick n roll. At least he will have Wall who is good for passing, although not for spacing in the regular season.

[Mirotic12]

Not to bring this back up as I am sure you all loved talking about it but as Mirotic12 stated he is listed as 6'10" on official nba website but on the summerleague roster he is lsited as 6'9".

https://www.nba.com/rockets/news/rockets-announce-roster-nba-summer-league-2021

Summer League listings are not official. They are almost always just the opinions of site bloggers. And even if his listing was 6-9 barefoot, it still would prove all the "he's only 6-7, 6-8, 6-9 in shoes" posts we had here to be wrong.

[yoyoboy]

Read on Twitter

[Nuntius]

4 blocks for Sengun in his first SL game is not bad at all. He can protect the rim, at least, so he isn't going to be Okafor.

[Charm]

15 boards and 4 blocks is bush league. He needs at least 20 and 6 if he wants to play center!

[RollingWave]

He was boxing out there like a pro in a summer league game probably the most impressive part was not that he got 15 rebounds, it was that the guy he was mostly boxing out was Mobley who had 5.

But the dude really gets his position, I think he'll probably be a surprisingly decent defender for a rookie big with crappy wingspan.

[Mirotic12]

"Under sized"

"Too small to play center"

"Is really a power forward"

"Not big enough"

"Will be physically overmatched"

etc., etc., etc.

The double standards held against European prospects are just ridiculous.

[Mickey8]

He was getting blocked left and right, his shooting percentage were horrible, his attempts to shoot the threes were tragic , by the way he was playing against the bunch of players who are trying to make it into the league, nothing to gloat about his debut, he moves up and down the court slower than Jokic. We will see how he fairs in actual NBA games.

[K_chile22]

He was getting blocked left and right, his shooting percentage were horrible, his attempts to shoot the threes were tragic , by the way he was playing against the bunch of players who are trying to make it into the league, nothing to gloat about his debut, he moves up and down the court slower than Jokic. We will see how he fairs in actual NBA games.

I think he only got blocked once, maybe twice, but only remember the Mobley one, where he ended up going to the line anyways. I'm not so concerned with the blown layups, he's always had incredible touch, hard for me to buy that is just gone based on one game, could have been adjusting to faster contests or just nerves

[Charm]

Stage 1: Denial