2023 NBA Draft

[clyde21]

Is Carson Wallace the best perimeter defender in college?

one of the better FS for sure

for sure a top 14 or 16 guy.

[crows2]

I'm currently:

VW

Scoot

Amen
Whitmore
Smith jr

I'm not sure on the order of 3-5 but currently I like that as a tier. Then a tier of 4-6 guys who I could see getting into that 3-5 range but for now I see a bit more warty. Its early but I will say I'm really excited about this class.

I think that’s about how it’d go if the Draft was held today.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Is Carson Wallace the best perimeter defender in college?

Cason and it's hard to say if he's the best considering there are 1000+ perimeter defenders in college basketball and none of us have seen them all or even a quarter of them for that matter, but he has to be right there. he's pretty special on that end.

[EMG518]

This is such a stacked draft that I don't want to say lottery but surely Taylor Hendricks must be top 20.

[ISB]

I don't understand the allure of him. He has no basketball skill. Yet to even get a single assist this season.

Mitchell has not had a single play run for him all year. He is on a team that is trying to win a championship, not pad the stats of a raw true freshman.

He's getting 8/6 in 20 mpg at 70% shooting despite that. I think he has been super impressive as an ultra athletic role-player. Seems to have a fantastic team-first attitude as well. He'd obviously need a ton of development to be some kind of star player but you really expect to get that in the late lottery? If he was projected #1 I'd see your point.

He didn't demonstrate any skill in high school, either. He is not a player that should ever have any plays run for him. He might make it as an energy big that gets rebounds, blocks shots, and rolls to the rim...but you don't draft that guy in the lottery, and you probably don't draft him in the first round. He was projected lottery by a lot of places before the season, and I never understood that. I see second round pick, late first at best.

That's not really how the NBA draft works, this isn't football. By the second round you are talking about people who are borderline to even make the roster. I think an athlete like Mitchell 100% goes first round in any draft. It's really only in the top 5-10 picks that you are expecting ultra athletes that also have developed skills. Mitchell comes in as an energy role player that has all star athleticism if he's able to develop more offensive game.

A few plays from the Creighton game:
https://youtu.be/UQGcVLQhv4A?t=237
https://youtu.be/UQGcVLQhv4A?t=305
https://youtu.be/UQGcVLQhv4A?t=359

[mr570]

Has anyone seen much about "Mongolian Mike"? Mike Sharavjamts from Dayton.

Watch on YouTube

[BostonCouchGM]

I see Whitmore as a Jaylen Brown type player and Smith as a McCollum. Both should be in that 3-6 conversation along with the twins, Miller and Walker. It's been a strange year. We're seeing a lot of OaD players not receiving major minutes or getting touches. Are coaches moving away from them, choosing instead, the returning players that know the system and have received in-house coaching for more than a year? I think they're looking around and seeing what has worked in the tournament and it's not playing a bunch of freshmen no matter how talented they are. Sure, it's worked on occasion but recent history (past several years) shows having returning players with 4 star talent plus experience and work ethic is winning tournament games and National Championships over having multiple 5 star freshmen.

[SeattleJazzFan]

I see Whitmore as a Jaylen Brown type player and Smith as a McCollum. Both should be in that 3-6 conversation along with the twins, Miller and Walker. It's been a strange year. We're seeing a lot of OaD players not receiving major minutes or getting touches. Are coaches moving away from them, choosing instead, the returning players that know the system and have received in-house coaching for more than a year? I think they're looking around and seeing what has worked in the tournament and it's not playing a bunch of freshmen no matter how talented they are. Sure, it's worked on occasion but recent history (past several years) shows having returning players with 4 star talent plus experience and work ethic is winning tournament games and National Championships over having multiple 5 star freshmen.

it could partly be that as well as the transfer portal. coaches are able to plug in more veteran talent.

i saw a stat that of the top 100 recruits playing cbb this year, only 15 are averaging double figures, so i think your observation about them playing fewer minutes may be correct.

[SeattleJazzFan]

Has anyone seen much about "Mongolian Mike"? Mike Sharavjamts from Dayton.

Watch on YouTube

i saw him play against BYU - he didn't do a ton, but his shooting stroke is also pretty special and he has good size. definitely stood out despite not having a great game.

[mr570]

Has anyone seen much about "Mongolian Mike"? Mike Sharavjamts from Dayton.

Watch on YouTube

i saw him play against BYU - he didn't do a ton, but his shooting stroke is also pretty special and he has good size. definitely stood out despite not having a great game.

He looks like a Thunder player to me tbh

[EvanZ]

Basically Hyunjung 2.0

[babyjax13]

Basically Hyunjung 2.0

In the sense of being a major college basketball player born in another country in Asia and going to Dayton, sure ... but different skillsets from what I can see - other than they both seem to have nice strokes.

Can Sharavjamts create rim pressure driving with his left hand?

[EvanZ]

Basically Hyunjung 2.0

In the sense of being a major college basketball player born in another country in Asia and going to Dayton, sure ... but different skillsets from what I can see - other than they both seem to have nice strokes.

Can Sharavjamts create rim pressure driving with his left hand?

Different skill sets? Hyunjung can't do anything at an NBA level other than shoot. They are both similar size, athletically limited one-dimensional shooters. This is as easy a comp as it gets my friend.

BTW, Hyunjung went to Davidson, but I guess I can't expect you to know that.

[babyjax13]

Basically Hyunjung 2.0

In the sense of being a major college basketball player born in another country in Asia and going to Dayton, sure ... but different skillsets from what I can see - other than they both seem to have nice strokes.

Can Sharavjamts create rim pressure driving with his left hand?

Different skill sets? Hyunjung can't do anything at an NBA level other than shoot. They are both similar size, athletically limited one-dimensional shooters. This is as easy a comp as it gets my friend.

Hyunjung is an off-ball shooter, Sharavjampts is a connective piece that shares ballhandling responsibilities, they really are not the same. In terms of an NBA role, I don't think either has one.

Also just stop with the passive-aggressive bull, obviously I made a mistake re: Davidson/Dayton, but this just gets so annoying and you do it all the time. e.g. your entire 40 page diatribe on Sengun not being a center.

[EvanZ]

e.g. your entire 40 page diatribe on Sengun not being a center.

Let's get back to this topic when it means something. You can't really say anything about any role on this Rockets team as currently constructed.

[clyde21]

don't know how so many people looked at Alpy as a 4 and not 5, clearly he's a 5.

[The-Power]

e.g. your entire 40 page diatribe on Sengun not being a center.

Let's get back to this topic when it means something. You can't really say anything about any role on this Rockets team as currently constructed.

I think you completely missed the actual point the user made.

[babyjax13]

e.g. your entire 40 page diatribe on Sengun not being a center.

Let's get back to this topic when it means something. You can't really say anything about any role on this Rockets team as currently constructed.

I think you completely missed the actual point the user made.

Don't engage, it's entirely not worth it and he will derail the entire thread. I don't know why I didn't just ignore him.

[The-Power]

So, I really like the profile of Jarace Walker. But for the life of me I can't understand why he shies away from contact when scoring as much as he does considering his physical built – and it's even more odd when you consider that he doesn't shy away from contact when rebounding (and he also plays with good effort overall).

If he had the kind of FTr that can be expected of someone of his profile (both in terms of physical built and role on the team) – somewhere between .300 and .400 would be decent – then I'd be a lot more comfortable pushing him into the top 5 conversation. As it stands, I don't really feel compelled to make his case even though that's admittedly true for most candidates at this point.

[Braggins]

I know its a small sample and hes returning from injury, but so far Nick Smith Jr looks really overrated to me.