Rudy Gobert Scouting Video

Shem · Post #1 » by **Shem** » Wed May 29, 2013 9:41 pm

It just came out today:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43nbxlfcTl0[/youtube]

Post #2 » by **165bows** » Wed May 29, 2013 10:58 pm

Shem wrote:It just came out today:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=43nbxlfcTl0[/youtube]

If you dig through his profile, there is a link somewhere in there that goes to his website. Several longer game clips of footage that are pretty interesting. More the highlights than the lowlights, though. If I can find it I will post it as well.

Dr Positivity · Post #3 » by **Dr Positivity** » Wed May 29, 2013 11:28 pm

Looks pretty stiff

Old Man Game · Post #4 » by **Old Man Game** » Thu May 30, 2013 12:15 am

He reminds me of Hasheem Thabeet.

cedric76 · Post #5 » by **cedric76** » Thu May 30, 2013 3:23 am

[quote="Old Man Game"]He reminds me of Hasheem Thabeet.[/quo

Much better, could be a steal, see how many people regret passing on Hilbert

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Shem · Post #6 » by **Shem** » Thu May 30, 2013 3:48 am

Old Man Game wrote:He reminds me of Hasheem Thabeet.

He looks better than Thabeet, but still that's not saying a whole lot. The query would be who wants to make him their project? It's hard to say how someone will turnout, but there is potential there, just not guaranteed.

whatchaknow · Post #7 » by **whatchaknow** » Thu May 30, 2013 4:36 am

Old Man Game wrote:He reminds me of Hasheem Thabeet.

He can actually catch the ball it appears

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #8 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Thu May 30, 2013 5:07 am

whatchaknow wrote:
Old Man Game wrote:He reminds me of Hasheem Thabeet.

He can actually catch the ball it appears

Yep, that alone is a huge difference.

Pacers1967 · Post #9 » by **Pacers1967** » Thu May 30, 2013 5:37 am

The Thabeet comparison makes no sense.

I like how Gobert moves. He looks like he will be a P&R master, even against better competition. He rolls hard to the basket, has good hands, and can obviously finish (74% 2pt fg%).

He's worth a middle of the 1st round pick. He could end up being Anthony Randolph or Yi Jianlian, two freak specimens who never panned out, or he could be a complete game changer. I think once he gets an NBA coaching staff to help him work on running the fast break (I believe he has the potential to be faster than he is) and can develop a jumper, which isn't impossible, I think he can be a very good player. He's someone who would be a great fit for the Nets at 22. He would work well with what they have on offense (harder to say when they don't have a coach at the moment).

wilshenal · Post #10 » by **wilshenal** » Thu May 30, 2013 6:11 am

Gobert can catch the ball. It's a nature gift for a big man.

Otherside,there is nothing impressed me.

jhern87 · Post #11 » by **jhern87** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:19 am

I thought his defensive instincts were pretty impressive. The guy really times his blocks well and with nearly a 7'9 wingspan he could have the makings of true defensive stopper. Oh and he has great hands for a big.

His lower body strength is a concern though but with some time in the gym he should really be able to strengthen his base. He gets in the right positions for rebounds, he's just not strong enough to hold his position. Also a little jump hook could do his game wonders.

PTPaQ · Post #12 » by **PTPaQ** » Thu May 30, 2013 4:32 pm

As usual with these kind of prospects, its all going to come down to his mental make up and self motivated determinations. The interviews/dinner dates will be key.

Golabki · Post #13 » by **Golabki** » Thu May 30, 2013 5:29 pm

Thabeet as a 21 year old at UCONN was an offensive abortion and not even a particularly good rebounder.

Developmentally, I'd say Gobert is 2 year ahead of Thabeet.

And no one is suggesting Gobert should go #2 overall.

pfm · Post #14 » by **pfm** » Thu May 30, 2013 6:52 pm

Yes, Gobert is exceptionally long, but the 3 things I think can help set him apart from guys like Thabeet:

1. Great hands. It's kind of something you have or you don't and a lot of the bigs that bust don't have them.

2. Very good basketball instincts. Gobert grew up around the game and his father was a player. A lot of the bigs who bust have the size and athleticism, but lack to instincts to use their physical gifts properly.

3. He reportedly has a very strong work ethic. We all know that's one of the most important aspects to succeeds, especially with these project guys.

Post #15 » by **gswhoops** » Thu May 30, 2013 6:59 pm

Gobert has much better potential than Thabeet, mainly because a) he looks like he has a pulse on offense and b) he's two years younger.

A 7'2" center who can impact the game on defense and isn't a complete liability on offense (even to the level where they can just catch and dunk consistently) is a pretty valuable commodity in this NBA. I see his upside as somewhere in the neighborhood of a Tyson Chandler.

pfm · Post #16 » by **pfm** » Thu May 30, 2013 7:05 pm

Even now, pretty much all of Chandler's offense is getting either lobs in the PnR or dunks on dump off passes. Just that makes the defense actually have to account for him, making it so he isn't a total liability. Gobert has the hands and length to make those plays from day 1.

Then on defense he can play the Chandler/Hibbert role and basically hang around the rim, put his massive arms up, and jump straight up.

He does need to seriously strengthen and bulk up his lower body though.

Post #17 » by **gswhoops** » Thu May 30, 2013 7:52 pm

piercef0rmvp wrote:Even now, pretty much all of Chandler's offense is getting either lobs in the PnR or dunks on dump off passes. Just that makes the defense actually have to account for him, making it so he isn't a total liability. Gobert has the hands and length to make those plays from day 1.

Then on defense he can play the Chandler/Hibbert role and basically hang around the rim, put his massive arms up, and jump straight up.

He does need to seriously strengthen and bulk up his lower body though.

Exactly. He doesn't have to learn a ton of post moves or develop a midrange J to be an effective player. He just has to be good enough on offense that opposing teams can't leave him wide open. Even if his offense doesn't develop beyond that he can be a solid contributer.

And ditto the strength concerns, but he's a young kid and a couple years of an NBA-level S&C program should have no problem taking care of that, especially since he has the rep as a hard worker.

MalonesElbows · Post #18 » by **MalonesElbows** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:12 pm

gswhoops wrote:Gobert has much better potential than Thabeet, mainly because a) he looks like he has a pulse on offense and b) he's two years younger.

A 7'2" center who can impact the game on defense and isn't a complete liability on offense (even to the level where they can just catch and dunk consistently) is a pretty valuable commodity in this NBA. I see his upside as somewhere in the neighborhood of a Tyson Chandler.

Thabeet was the #2 pick in the draft, he had much more potential than Gobert. He was a 7'2" 267 lb beast of a shot blocker that also poured in 13.6 points his junior year. He was picked ahead of Harden, Curry, and Evans who all had monster years as well. Gobert is late lottery mocked in a terribly weak draft compared to 2009. He is worse than Thabeet at everything except maybe free throws, and at just 237lbs he will likely bust fabulously.

mct · Post #19 » by **mct** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:16 pm

MalonesElbows wrote:
gswhoops wrote:Gobert has much better potential than Thabeet, mainly because a) he looks like he has a pulse on offense and b) he's two years younger.

A 7'2" center who can impact the game on defense and isn't a complete liability on offense (even to the level where they can just catch and dunk consistently) is a pretty valuable commodity in this NBA. I see his upside as somewhere in the neighborhood of a Tyson Chandler.

Thabeet was the #2 pick in the draft, he had much more potential than Gobert. He was a 7'2" 267 lb beast of a shot blocker that also poured in 13.6 points his junior year. He was picked ahead of Harden, Curry, and Evans who all had monster years as well. Gobert is late lottery mocked in a terribly weak draft compared to 2009. He is worse than Thabeet at everything except maybe free throws, and at just 237lbs he will likely bust fabulously.

2009 was also called a weak draft at the time. Everybody knew the Grizzlies reached on Thabeet, but even so, the fact that someone like Gobert might be available late lottery might just mean this draft is underrated.

I guarantee Gobert has a better career than Thabeet.

pfm · Post #20 » by **pfm** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:34 pm

Thabeet certainly had a weight advantage over Gobert (not something to be overlooked with Gobert), but 3 major things that hampered Thabeet in the league were hands, basketball IQ, and work ethic. Those are all strengths of Gobert. Thabeet produced more at the NCAA level, but Gobert is playing against grown men in the French Pro A League and is also 2 years younger than Thabeet coming in. I think Fraschilla said the French Pro A League was comparable to the D-League and probably stronger competition than D1 NCAA.

Plus its much easier to take a risk someone with those measurables and rawness at 10-15 than it is at 2.