Aaron Gordon

AQuintus · Post #81 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:08 am

Luigi wrote:I think that's exactly what it means. If you jump, run, and are sized similar to someone, you are a similar athlete to them

Except that Amundson doesn't do any of those things as well as Gordon does IN GAME, ON A BASKETBALL COURT.

Unless you also think that Kevin Love jumps as well as a young Amare and runs as fast as a young Chris Paul.

AQuintus · Post #82 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:10 am

dballislife wrote:the main thing that scares me about this guy, he literally has the same make up of tyrus thomas and stromile swift coming into the league

No. Both of those guys were as dumb as rocks (BBIQ-wise at least). Gordon's BBIQ is a big strength.

AQuintus · Post #83 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:12 am

ColdBlooded wrote:Floor spacing will take a beating.

I like the potential of that trio, but one of them needs to develop an outside shoot to have them on the court at the same time.

They need a really good shooting coach in Orlando, and they need good shooters at the 3 and 5 and off the bench (luckily they already have a good shooter at the 5, and both Harkless and Harris have shown flashes at the 3), but even without shooting, they'll be elite defensively and in transition.

I'm definitely going to be bandwagoning the Magic next year with the Wolves looking like they're content with being a treadmill team going forward.

Luigi · Post #84 » by **Luigi** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:16 am

AQuintus wrote:
Luigi wrote:I think that's exactly what it means. If you jump, run, and are sized similar to someone, you are a similar athlete to them

Except that Amundson doesn't do any of those things as well as Gordon does IN GAME, ON A BASKETBALL COURT.

Unless you also think that Kevin Love jumps as well as a young Amare and runs as fast as a young Chris Paul.

If you think he's a better basketball player, that's fine. I think similar measurables means similar athletes.

But why do you think he's a better basketball player? What can he do that Amundson doesn't?

dballislife · Post #85 » by **dballislife** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 7:57 am

AQuintus wrote:
dballislife wrote:the main thing that scares me about this guy, he literally has the same make up of tyrus thomas and stromile swift coming into the league

No. Both of those guys were as dumb as rocks (BBIQ-wise at least). Gordon's BBIQ is a big strength.

come on man u go admit, goin into the league they were all picked top 4, near same size, height, length and athleticism...had the same skillset and close numbers in college, has near same strengths and struggle with same things on the court...all somewhat tweeners...they are pretty close players to compare, at least coming into the league

AQuintus · Post #86 » by **AQuintus** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 8:23 am

dballislife wrote:
AQuintus wrote:
dballislife wrote:the main thing that scares me about this guy, he literally has the same make up of tyrus thomas and stromile swift coming into the league

No. Both of those guys were as dumb as rocks (BBIQ-wise at least). Gordon's BBIQ is a big strength.

come on man u go admit, goin into the league they were all picked top 4, near same size, height, length and athleticism...had the same skillset and close numbers in college, has near same strengths and struggle with same things on the court...all somewhat tweeners...they are pretty close players to compare, at least coming into the league

No, because like I just said in the post you quoted, they had horrible BBIQs, which is why they failed to live up to their draft position, and Gordon has a very good BBIQ. Also, neither Swift nor Thomas were as good at handling the ball or passing as Gordon is. A better comparison is Josh Smith, but even then, Gordon has a much better attitude and BBIQ.

Luigi · Post #87 » by **Luigi** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:14 pm

I was surprised at how fast he rose. Jazz fans started talking about him fairly early on. I didn't like the idea of taking him at 5, because I thought he could be had at 10. But then he sky rocketed up in the last couple of days before the draft.

I wonder what it was that changed everything.

EricAnderson · Post #88 » by **EricAnderson** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 2:21 pm

I dont like drafting him that high for the same reason i didnt like MKG going that high you dont take a high motor energy guy/defensive specialist top 5..

The Magic are building one of the worst shooting teams ever in a league where the Spurs showed you need players who can make an open shot nad have to be gaurded on the peremter

CablexDeadpool · Post #89 » by **CablexDeadpool** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:17 pm

WTF the Magic were thinking when they drafted Aaron Gordon when they could've picked up Dante Exum.

Dammit man.

skones · Post #90 » by **skones** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 3:40 pm

Great intangibles, solid feel, high basketball IQ, great athlete, good size. Just sounds a lot like Michael Kidd Gilchrist. I doubt he develops the floor game necessary to be successful on the offensive end at small forward. He needs to settle in at the four to have a successful career IMO. I like the Faried comparison.

Foliohattu · Post #91 » by **Foliohattu** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:13 pm

I really liked Gordon as a prospect and he would've been a great 8th or 9th pick. But picking him over guys like Exum is a huge reach. Hope he developes even decent jumper, then he will be really great do-it-all type of guy.

Nyce_1 · Post #92 » by **Nyce_1** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 9:55 pm

Luigi wrote:I was surprised at how fast he rose. Jazz fans started talking about him fairly early on. I didn't like the idea of taking him at 5, because I thought he could be had at 10. But then he sky rocketed up in the last couple of days before the draft.

I wonder what it was that changed everything.

May have been his improved shooting?

Luigi · Post #93 » by **Luigi** » Fri Jun 27, 2014 10:20 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:
Luigi wrote:I was surprised at how fast he rose. Jazz fans started talking about him fairly early on. I didn't like the idea of taking him at 5, because I thought he could be had at 10. But then he sky rocketed up in the last couple of days before the draft.

I wonder what it was that changed everything.

May have been his improved shooting?

Yeah, I heard that the Jazz worked him out twice to see if his shooting was more than just a streak from the first workout. A lot of execs really went for him at the end so maybe there's more there than what I see.

Amish Mafioso · Post #94 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 1:55 am

I really love this guy. Without him, Utah wouldn't have landed Exum.

God bless the Magic!!

AQuintus · Post #95 » by **AQuintus** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:36 am

Foliohattu wrote:But picking him over guys like Exum is a huge reach.

Why? What has Exum done to make him so much better as a prospect than Gordon? And what has Exum done that makes Exum + (I don't know, McDermott) better than Gordon + Payton?

Illmatic12 · Post #96 » by **Illmatic12** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 7:59 am

AQuintus wrote:
Foliohattu wrote:But picking him over guys like Exum is a huge reach.

Why? What has Exum done to make him so much better as a prospect than Gordon? And what has Exum done that makes Exum + (I don't know, McDermott) better than Gordon + Payton?

I think it's more about fit. Orlando needs offense badly. They had the 29th ranked offense last year, and with Afflalo gone they'll probably be dead last by a mile next season. Exum will be able to score the ball at the next level.. Gordon can't score at all. When you have two lotto picks you generally want to address your team's most glaring problem, not worsen it.

They could have taken McDermott or better yet Saric who is reportedly coming over this season (if Philly took Saric at #10 then Doug would be a fine consolation). Exum + Saric would have been a great draft for them in terms of team need.

boogie-reke · Post #97 » by **boogie-reke** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:08 am

His press conference was pretty impressive. This is an extremely confident and comfortable kid with a lot of heart.

It's pretty clear why teams were falling inlove with this kid outside of strictly game footage. Let's see how he develops..I know it's just a press conference but I must admit I was impressed with how he handled himself and his entire demeanor and confidence.

basketballRob · Post #98 » by **basketballRob** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 8:01 pm

Amish Mafioso wrote:I really love this guy. Without him, Utah wouldn't have landed Exum.

God bless the Magic!!

Exum must of did well in his Utah workout because I heard a member of the Magic say yesterday that Exum's workout here was terrible. Maybe he just had a bad day.

MagicFan32 · Post #99 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:20 pm

what is gordons upside if it turns out he was able to fix the mechanical flaw in his jump shot? he gave a really detailed answer about it that i liked and suggests he is a huge student of the game, anyways he said he now has a consistent release point

lol @ everyone assuming he's a tweener, he had one of the biggest defensive impacts in the entire NCAA, as one of the youngest players in college basketball. i mean nobody else sees big potential on pick and roll???

alot of people criticized the magic for taking oladipo because according to them he couldn't dribble, and he went on to show he has alot of upside, because he can infact break people down 1 on 1

MagicFan32 · Post #100 » by **MagicFan32** » Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:25 pm

EricAnderson wrote:I dont like drafting him that high for the same reason i didnt like MKG going that high you dont take a high motor energy guy/defensive specialist top 5..

The Magic are building one of the worst shooting teams ever in a league where the Spurs showed you need players who can make an open shot nad have to be gaurded on the peremter

the magic are exactly 2 years into a rebuild, they are nowhere near a finished product they are still looking for the long term pieces