Re: Jordan Adams
Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2014 11:07 pm
Glad somebody is returning for UCLA lettssss goooo!!
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EvanZ wrote:He should have come out this year. He's only getting older. DX had him going 24.
Big mistake.
miltk wrote:EvanZ wrote:He should have come out this year. He's only getting older. DX had him going 24.
Big mistake.
adams is young for his graduating class. 10 months younger than both kyle anderson and tony parker, and a half year older than wiggins. adams filed papers to test the waters, so i think HIS info on his status is better than your/dx's info on his draft status.
no mistake.
EvanZ wrote:miltk wrote:EvanZ wrote:He should have come out this year. He's only getting older. DX had him going 24.
Big mistake.
adams is young for his graduating class. 10 months younger than both kyle anderson and tony parker, and a half year older than wiggins. adams filed papers to test the waters, so i think HIS info on his status is better than your/dx's info on his draft status.
no mistake.
Because the rule is guys who stay in school improve their draft position, right?
Once you get on the radar, best just to come out. UCLA might not even make the tourney next year. Adams will only be a year older. Scouts and stat guys account for age, anyway.
He should have tried to get in the best shape of his life the next couple of months and he would have been a mid first-round pick.
Kevin Pelton told me he had Jordan rated #5 statistically. I don't know what information Adams got from his "camp", but it wasn't good.
What exactly is he supposed to improve on that he can't do leading up to the draft? Another year isn't going to do anything for him.
These NBA execs & scouts ultimately feel that the 6’5 clever-Bruin, should he enter the draft, would ultimately be selected in the 20-40 range. About Adams, they’re saying:
“He doesn’t look like much, but he has a knack.”
“Always overweight, but if a team can trim him down, he can be a super player in this league.”
“Just a basketball player. Finds a way. Long arms and great hands. 95-steals in a college season is spectacular.”
“Not really a knock-down shooter (35.6% fr 3-pt), but a very capable scorer. A steal late in the first-round. Hope he lasts that long.”
“Bigger than you think, quicker than you think – a “garbage-player”. Very interesting late-first.”
“Think he may be too lazy to play in our league. Bad body. Knows how to play, but he gained-weight DURING the season as a guard. Tough to do.”
miltk wrote:well that's odd, because a couple of bruin fans at a game asked several scouts(who always sit in the rafters notepad in hand) what they thought about adams and they unanimously said "he's not on the radar". his general consensus in the second round by most mocks seconded the thought.
let me leave you with this thought. last year in an interview, jordan was asked about his time in westwood, to which he answered he was a theater arts major "JUST IN CASE" things don't go as planned. ruminate on that statement for a while. most posters to this thread like his game(i'm guessing some like his game because he is an overlooked underappreciated player), i like his game, we all like his game, but as you well know scouts have another agenda and criteria.
EvanZ wrote:From Rex Chapman's blog:
http://irex3.com/2014/04/17/15-nba-exec ... rclassmen/These NBA execs & scouts ultimately feel that the 6’5 clever-Bruin, should he enter the draft, would ultimately be selected in the 20-40 range. About Adams, they’re saying:
“He doesn’t look like much, but he has a knack.”
“Always overweight, but if a team can trim him down, he can be a super player in this league.”
“Just a basketball player. Finds a way. Long arms and great hands. 95-steals in a college season is spectacular.”
“Not really a knock-down shooter (35.6% fr 3-pt), but a very capable scorer. A steal late in the first-round. Hope he lasts that long.”
“Bigger than you think, quicker than you think – a “garbage-player”. Very interesting late-first.”
“Think he may be too lazy to play in our league. Bad body. Knows how to play, but he gained-weight DURING the season as a guard. Tough to do.”
Mixed opinions, but clearly some scouts love him, pretty clearly could have gone in the first round.
ManualRam wrote:i think most posters like him because of his statistical profile.
he's still a fat wing to me. i don't like fat wings.
ManualRam wrote:
i'll just disagree with him having so much upside. you're right, i don't see it. he's fat, isn't quick or shifty, has limited shot-creating ability, no explosion around the rim and is just a decent outside shooter.
EvanZ wrote:ManualRam wrote:
i'll just disagree with him having so much upside. you're right, i don't see it. he's fat, isn't quick or shifty, has limited shot-creating ability, no explosion around the rim and is just a decent outside shooter.
Explain how he shot 60% TS with a PER of 28.7. Please. I shall enjoy it.
Because if that's what fat Jordan Adams can do, I can't wait to see what a fit JA will do.
ManualRam wrote:EvanZ wrote:ManualRam wrote:
i'll just disagree with him having so much upside. you're right, i don't see it. he's fat, isn't quick or shifty, has limited shot-creating ability, no explosion around the rim and is just a decent outside shooter.
Explain how he shot 60% TS with a PER of 28.7. Please. I shall enjoy it.
Because if that's what fat Jordan Adams can do, I can't wait to see what a fit JA will do.
because he's good at the college level. that doesn't always translate to the pro level which is why its ridiculous to project college players strictly off of stats. the question is how much of his game is actually translatable. some of it is, but imo not enough for him to transpose his effectiveness at the college level to the pro game. if scouts believed in his upside as much as you do, he would've likely declared.
he's not a terrible prospect, but bubble first rounder sounded about right to me.
EvanZ wrote:ManualRam wrote:EvanZ wrote:
Explain how he shot 60% TS with a PER of 28.7. Please. I shall enjoy it.
Because if that's what fat Jordan Adams can do, I can't wait to see what a fit JA will do.because he's good at the college level. that doesn't always translate to the pro level which is why its ridiculous to project college players strictly off of stats. the question is how much of his game is actually translatable. some of it is, but imo not enough for him to transpose his effectiveness at the college level to the pro game. if scouts believed in his upside as much as you do, he would've likely declared.
he's not a terrible prospect, but bubble first rounder sounded about right to me.
Maybe you didn't read the quotes from the scouts I posted. Many clearly do believe in his upside.
I think he just got the wrong advice.
EvanZ wrote:ManualRam wrote:EvanZ wrote:
Explain how he shot 60% TS with a PER of 28.7. Please. I shall enjoy it.
Because if that's what fat Jordan Adams can do, I can't wait to see what a fit JA will do.because he's good at the college level. that doesn't always translate to the pro level which is why its ridiculous to project college players strictly off of stats. the question is how much of his game is actually translatable. some of it is, but imo not enough for him to transpose his effectiveness at the college level to the pro game. if scouts believed in his upside as much as you do, he would've likely declared.
he's not a terrible prospect, but bubble first rounder sounded about right to me.
Maybe you didn't read the quotes from the scouts I posted. Many clearly do believe in his upside.
I think he just got the wrong advice.