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Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 2:41 pm
by EvanZ
Should be a lottery pick, and I have no idea why the draft blogs have him ranked so low. Just watch him climb, folks.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:03 pm
by bigboi
After UCLA beats Florida in the tourney(yea I said it) I think he will be a top 10 pick

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 3:19 pm
by reanimator
bigboi wrote:After UCLA beats Florida in the tourney(yea I said it) I think he will be a top 10 pick


Not really going out on a limb there with that prediction.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 4:18 pm
by Pass it
Is he better than PJ hairston? Hairston has a better looking stroke and is stronger in the paint. I haven't watched Adams outside of highlights, anyone know if he can create his own shot?

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 6:32 pm
by EvanZ
Pass it wrote:Is he better than PJ hairston? Hairston has a better looking stroke and is stronger in the paint. I haven't watched Adams outside of highlights, anyone know if he can create his own shot?


Yes, he can create his own shot. I'd say he'll end up somewhere between Stuckey and Harden in terms of scoring ability.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:30 pm
by Ruzious
Pass it wrote:Is he better than PJ hairston? Hairston has a better looking stroke and is stronger in the paint. I haven't watched Adams outside of highlights, anyone know if he can create his own shot?

I like Hairston, but Adams is clearly better at penetrating and creating his own shot. And Adams is probably a better inside scorer with just as much strength. PJ's got as pretty a 3 as anyone I've seen, but he doesn't seem to be as multi-dimensional, imo.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:33 pm
by miltk
it is a mystery that his PER is so high and yet he is a second rounder in some mocks and back end of the first round in others. however, he is not of the radar. a scout at a few games at pauley was asked by a poster on a bruin board what he thought of adams, and the reply was that adams is NOT ON THE RADAR.

something is keeping him down there and doing well in the dance will not put him in the lottery.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:35 pm
by EvanZ
Whatever team hired that scout should fire him.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:38 pm
by Fischella
Adams is a stud, can do a little bit of everything and has a really sweet touch, amazing FT shooter.
He needs to work physically but if he puts the work, he can be a really good SG at the next level, I will pick him in the late lotto easily.

Hairston is different, his BBIQ is worse but the guy is a better shooter and stronger, Hairston is built like an NBA player already, and has the body type of a Harden/Pierce kind of athlete.

I like them both in the same range, Hairston is more like a 6th man with a terrific shot and Adams a complete package.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 7:45 pm
by miltk
EvanZ wrote:Whatever team hired that scout should fire him.


my mistake. there were a few scouts - they all have notepads and take notes like crazy. the answer that ja was not on the radar was a consensus answer, so THEY (not he) should all be fired.

i do find it interesting how different sectors think on these matters. when i watch nba tv or charles or kenny or any former player, they place a high value on smarts,,,and think differently from those who actually do the drafting.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 8:02 pm
by Pass it
Ruzious wrote:
Pass it wrote:Is he better than PJ hairston? Hairston has a better looking stroke and is stronger in the paint. I haven't watched Adams outside of highlights, anyone know if he can create his own shot?

I like Hairston, but Adams is clearly better at penetrating and creating his own shot. And Adams is probably a better inside scorer with just as much strength. PJ's got as pretty a 3 as anyone I've seen, but he doesn't seem to be as multi-dimensional, imo.


I agree PJ is pretty one-dimensional. Most of his points come from his 3 point shot. I project him as a more physical T. Hardaway Jr.

I was trying to discern why PJ was rated as mid 1st rounder and Jordan Adams as an early second rounder. It appears that Adams has some playing making abilities, if he show cases more of it as the tourney goes on his stock will jump.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 9:55 pm
by miltk
if pj is going to be a one dimensional player in the nba, he's going to have to be exceptional at it. he has a better nba body is about all you can say, and granted, jordan's body is far from complete :D

48%, 39% doesn't sound too "exceptional" to me, and pj's name doesn't pop up on any metric http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/con ... /2014.html

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2014 10:38 pm
by Mylie10
The only reason Adams doesn't rank higher is because he plays on the west coast. It's the age old bias. When and if UCLA moves on in these high profile games both Adams and Anderson will climb the draft charts.

This stuff happens every year. Anderson should be right at the top of this draft class as well...the kid is gonna be a really good pro. If Adams stays in the second round he'll be a terrific value pick.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 2:20 am
by miltk
Mylie10 wrote:The only reason Adams doesn't rank higher is because he plays on the west coast. It's the age old bias. When and if UCLA moves on in these high profile games both Adams and Anderson will climb the draft charts.

This stuff happens every year. Anderson should be right at the top of this draft class as well...the kid is gonna be a really good pro. If Adams stays in the second round he'll be a terrific value pick.


the bias doesn't extend to players,,,only teams. scouts tend to look at the native talent regardless of competition. we're not talking mid major conference, and every year the p12 does better than almost all conferences in the dance. otherwise why is lavine still so highly thought of when his numbers don't match his evaluation. kyle is a unique player who's skillset has been overanalyzed since high school - there's no way he is over or under estimated unless it's based on his lack of athleticism

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 5:49 pm
by babyjax13
I have him in the late lottery and have since the beginning of the college basketball season. I love watching him play.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 6:54 pm
by miltk
Mylie10 wrote:The only reason Adams doesn't rank higher is because he plays on the west coast. It's the age old bias. When and if UCLA moves on in these high profile games both Adams and Anderson will climb the draft charts.

.


ahem...you were saying? west coast just beat kansas
:D

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:30 pm
by Mylie10
miltk wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:The only reason Adams doesn't rank higher is because he plays on the west coast. It's the age old bias. When and if UCLA moves on in these high profile games both Adams and Anderson will climb the draft charts.

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ahem...you were saying? west coast just beat kansas
:D


I live on the West Coast in the Bay Area and very pumped over the Stanford win. Dwight Powell looks like a guy who would be a valuable role player in the L.

But the bias comes from the rest of the country and mostly from the media. The TV contracts have changed things up as well and the Pac 12 plays on their own channel for the most part.

Looking forward to watching UCLA later today to see Adams and Anderson. Also like levine.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 7:32 pm
by Mylie10
babyjax13 wrote:I have him in the late lottery and have since the beginning of the college basketball season. I love watching him play.



I'd have him in the top 10.....the kid does everything on the floor, and just because he does it under control and not a 100 miles an hour shouldn't hold him down.

And yes there is a bias in the media and with the draft boards. They don't watch as much west coast basketball. They just don't.

But we see guys almost every year that are under valued based on how old they are, and sometimes from where they play and who they play against.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:07 pm
by brackdan70
Where ever he gets picked he will be contributing in the NBA next year. He is not as quick or athletic as some guards in the draft, but knows how to play and has the size and shooting ability and all around game to be successful.

Re: Jordan Adams

Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2014 8:14 pm
by miltk
Mylie10 wrote:
miltk wrote:
Mylie10 wrote:The only reason Adams doesn't rank higher is because he plays on the west coast. It's the age old bias. When and if UCLA moves on in these high profile games both Adams and Anderson will climb the draft charts.

.


ahem...you were saying? west coast just beat kansas
:D


I live on the West Coast in the Bay Area and very pumped over the Stanford win. Dwight Powell looks like a guy who would be a valuable role player in the L.

But the bias comes from the rest of the country and mostly from the media. The TV contracts have changed things up as well and the Pac 12 plays on their own channel for the most part.

Looking forward to watching UCLA later today to see Adams and Anderson. Also like levine.



hopefully,,,WE shall meet again. but that's 2 losses by kansas to p12 teams ;)
but i see opposition as a factor more in football than basketball.