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Can Nikola Jokic really shoot 3? 

Post#1 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:05 am

kid is 1995, a little older than KP
prior pros. 2012-2013
9 games 3P 1 of 13
FIBA U19 3P 4 of 13

2013-2013 pros, really shot a lot!
3P 35 of 113 31%( including hoop summit 0 of 2)

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Date Of Birth: Feb 19, 1995 (19 years old)
Birthplace: Sombor, West Backa (Serbia)
Nationality: Serbia
Height: 6-10 (208cm) Weight: 253 (115kg)
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Post#2 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:24 am

Kristaps Porzingis
before pros, 2012-2013
3P 15 of 31 48%
Euro u18 3 of 16 18%

pros 2013-2014

3P 16 of 53 30.2%
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Post#3 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 9:45 am

After April
Jokic made 22 of 46 3P
It is 6 more than KP had made all season

really Cool!!!!
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Post#4 » by Big Jaffa » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:09 am

I wouldn't say he's a consistent shooter from the 3 point line.

Free throw % is a good indicator of how good of a shooter someone is, he's 67%. I just don't see him developing a serviceable 3 point shot within 3/4 years.

I believe the biggest factor with his success will be how well he improves his body.

He is a smart player, skilled in the post, a very solid passer (second best in assists per 40 for power forwards, first amongst centres) and a solid defender in the Adriatic league, however whether or not he has the athleticism to defend in the NBA will be seen.

He's also a pretty big guy, 250 lbs, 6'11" in shoes, 7'3" wingspan, 9'3" standing reach which is good for a centre, let alone a power forward.

Definitely a good draft and stash pick. To me, he feels like a bigger but obviously less experienced Luis Scola. Their style of play is very similar.
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Post#5 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:23 am

Big Jaffa wrote:I wouldn't say he's a consistent shooter from the 3 point line.

Free throw % is a good indicator of how good of a shooter someone is, he's 67%. I just don't see him developing a serviceable 3 point shot within 3/4 years.

I believe the biggest factor with his success will be how well he improves his body.

He is a smart player, skilled in the post, a very solid passer (second best in assists per 40 for power forwards, first amongst centres) and a solid defender in the Adriatic league, however whether or not he has the athleticism to defend in the NBA will be seen.

He's also a pretty big guy, 250 lbs, 6'11" in shoes, 7'3" wingspan, 9'3" standing reach which is good for a centre, let alone a power forward.

Definitely a good draft and stash pick. To me, he feels like a bigger but obviously less experienced Luis Scola. Their style of play is very similar.


14 games, made 22 3P
How many Payne Made all season? 44
How many Vonleh Made all season? 16
How many Kyle anderson Made all season? 28

He will be a good shooter IN nba
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Post#6 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 10:43 am

vs NCAA sf-pf
Jabari Parker made 38 3P
T.J. Warren made 31 3P
CJ fair made 24 3P

VS NCAA Center

Alec Brown all season 3P made 41
Isaiah Austin all season 3P made 18
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Post#7 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:23 am

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQwnStEwrjo

wow, ****, this guy is as **** as doug macdmught

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unU_1rW18Fg

more **** than doug mac f**K, I can not believe it, is he 19yrs old?
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Post#8 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:39 am

I can not believe This guy is just a 2nd round
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Post#9 » by Notanoob » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:35 pm

You just quintuple-posted. You really do not need to make a separate post for every single thought that enters your head about a prospect.

If you shoot only 31% from three, then you aren't a particularly good shooter.

However, Jocic's sample size of shots is too small to determine if he really is a good shooter, a bad shooter, or a mediocre shooter. Still, the FT% is not encouraging.

The total number of 3 pointers made is completely useless and I'd appreciate it if you didn't post it. 3P% and number of attempts are what matter. TJ Warren, CJ Fair, Isaiah Austin all cannot shoot for $hit. Vonleh and Anderson took far too few 3 pointers to say if they can shot or not. Making more 3's than them does not mean anything.
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Post#10 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 12:49 pm

Notanoob wrote:You just quintuple-posted. You really do not need to make a separate post for every single thought that enters your head about a prospect.

If you shoot only 31% from three, then you aren't a particularly good shooter.

However, Jocic's sample size of shots is too small to determine if he really is a good shooter, a bad shooter, or a mediocre shooter. Still, the FT% is not encouraging.

The total number of 3 pointers made is completely useless and I'd appreciate it if you didn't post it. 3P% and number of attempts are what matter. TJ Warren, CJ Fair, Isaiah Austin all cannot shoot for $hit. Vonleh and Anderson took far too few 3 pointers to say if they can shot or not. Making more 3's than them does not mean anything.


1, can you help find the JOkic Thread? you are so funny, I like u
2, is it payne a good shooter?
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Post#11 » by Notanoob » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:00 pm

20110913 wrote:1, can you help find the JOkic Thread? you are so funny, I like u
There is a search function, but I think you might not understand what I meant. You posted 5 times in your own thread within two hours. That isn't necessary. Just edit your own post to include new information, or don't post a new thread until you've gathered all the information that you want to post.
20110913 wrote:2, is it payne a good shooter?
You will note that I didn't mention Payne or Alec Brown in my post, and for good reason. They are seniors who, over a larger sample of shots for their careers, have shown us that they can in fact shoot 3s well. However, I'm not sure how they are relevant. They have both made more 3's than Jokic has during his career. In fact I'm not sure why you're just posting the number of 3 pointers made by random prospects.
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Post#12 » by Baller2014 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:04 pm

I was just looking for some info on Jokic. The guy just stayed in the draft, after wavering, so I'm guessing he's got a promise from a team. Probably in the 2nd round with either the Spurs, or one of the Spurs affiliated front offices (Atlanta, OKC, Utah or Magic).
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Post#13 » by greenandgold » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:23 pm

Jokic doesn't need to shoot outrageously from three. He measures out as a full-size NBA center: 6'11" height, 7'3" wingspan, 9'3" reach, 253 pounds at 19 years old. He's a center, maybe a finesse center like Ilgauskas, but not a stretch 4.

With that kind of size at that young age it's exciting to see a decent jump shot and passing ability.
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Post#14 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:26 pm

Baller2014 wrote:I was just looking for some info on Jokic. The guy just stayed in the draft, after wavering, so I'm guessing he's got a promise from a team. Probably in the 2nd round with either the Spurs, or one of the Spurs affiliated front offices (Atlanta, OKC, Utah or Magic).

Kid is a bigger Doug
huge potential
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Post#15 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 1:35 pm

Notanoob wrote:
20110913 wrote:]You will note that I didn't mention Payne or Alec Brown in my post, and for good reason. They are seniors who, over a larger sample of shots for their careers, have shown us that they can in fact shoot 3s well. However, I'm not sure how they are relevant. They have both made more 3's than Jokic has during his career. In fact I'm not sure why you're just posting the number of 3 pointers made by random prospects.


based on what you said, they are good shooters
how about their 3P made last 14 games?
how about their last 22 3P made?
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Post#16 » by Notanoob » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:13 pm

20110913 wrote:based on what you said, they are good shooters
how about their 3P made last 14 games?
how about their last 22 3P made?
14 games is too small of a sample size to judge a shooter. You want something around 200 3 point attempts before you start to draw meaningful conclusions about how good of a shooter a guy is. For instance, Alec Brown has taken 195 3 pointers during his college career and hit exactly 40% of them, so there's little question that he is a good shooter.

I have no clue what you'd want to know about the last 22 3 pointers made. What relevance does that have?

And Jokic does not compare to McDermott in the slightest. McDermott took nearly 600 3 pointers and hit an incredible 45.8% of them, putting him up their with the absolute best snipers from long range alive. Jokic hit 31% of his 3's from a shorter line in Europe on only 130 attempts, which would put him bellow the NBA average of 36%. McDermott his over 80% of his free throws too, compared to under 70% for Jokic. The gab between them as shooters is monumental.
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Post#17 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 3:50 pm

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20110913 wrote:based on what you said, they are good shooters
how about their 3P made last 14 games?
how about their last 22 3P made?
14 games is too small of a sample size to judge a shooter. You want something around 200 3 point attempts before you start to draw meaningful conclusions about how good of a shooter a guy is. For instance, Alec Brown has taken 195 3 pointers during his college career and hit exactly 40% of them, so there's little question that he is a good shooter.

I have no clue what you'd want to know about the last 22 3 pointers made. What relevance does that have?

And Jokic does not compare to McDermott in the slightest. McDermott took nearly 600 3 pointers and hit an incredible 45.8% of them, putting him up their with the absolute best snipers from long range alive. Jokic hit 31% of his 3's from a shorter line in Europe on only 130 attempts, which would put him bellow the NBA average of 36%. McDermott his over 80% of his free throws too, compared to under 70% for Jokic. The gab between them as shooters is monumental.


I dont think so
kid is 19yrs old, dont forget! He is improving himself day and night.
when doug is 19, how about his shot? also, how about dirk 19yrs?
I check last 14 games, alec brown made about 16 3P, Payne made 24 3P.
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Post#18 » by 20110913 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:05 pm

check this
Just By the Numbers: the 2014 Power Forward Crop
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jus ... Crop-4610/
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Post#19 » by pohani komarac » Tue Jun 17, 2014 4:29 pm

he is good shooter with feet set.

he has highest IQ in draft. should be star of euroleague basketball. not sure about nba
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Post#20 » by pad300 » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:12 pm

20110913 wrote:check this
Just By the Numbers: the 2014 Power Forward Crop
http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Jus ... Crop-4610/


This article has a number in it that I want to cross-check:
"but Nikola Jokic's outrageous 80% shooting from 2-point range"

Can anyone confirm this percentage?!? I assume he's doing this with a really effective post game (there is no way I believe 80% on jumpers). Can anyone who's seen some whole games of his comment on how good Jokic is in the post.

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