Dzanan Musa - Bosnian sensation

Stackey · Post #161 » by **Stackey** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 7:36 am

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Catchall · Post #162 » by **Catchall** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:00 am

No-Man · Post #163 » by **No-Man** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 10:39 am

At this point he might be the only other 1st round level intl guy out there

Mirotic12 · Post #164 » by **Mirotic12** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:29 pm

Fischella wrote:At this point he might be the only other 1st round level intl guy out there

Just because they don't play in NCAA.

Kurucs
Atic
Toliopoulos
Tsalmpouris
Simanic
Marinkovic
Slavica
Bonga
Hlinason
Charalampopoulos
Yusta
Stamatis
Koniaris
etc., etc.

Such players could be on first round mocks if they played in NCAA. It's familiarity heuristic.

No-Man · Post #165 » by **No-Man** » Sun Nov 19, 2017 4:02 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
Fischella wrote:At this point he might be the only other 1st round level intl guy out there

Just because they don't play in NCAA.

Kurucs
Atic
Toliopoulos
Tsalmpouris
Simanic
Marinkovic
Slavica
Bonga
Hlinason
Charalampopoulos
Yusta
etc., etc.

Such players could be on first round mocks if they played in NCAA. It's familiarity heuristic.

Those guys aren't precisely setting the world on fire, I am knowledgeable on most of them, have seen half of them or so live, but the most promising ones are still quite raw (Kurucs, Simanic, Bonga) and have started the year quite slowly (although Bonga's shooting improvements seem very real), and the ones that are playing well, Okobo who isn't in the list, Marinkovic, etc... aren't promising enough for a 1st round pick in my opinion (Elie is close).

As of now, Mushidi is the closest to me after Doncic-Musa to warrant that of the non-NCAA intl players, some of the guys in that list I doubt they ever amount anything, I like Atic but his frame limits him to no end, hasn't really evolved physically, the greek guys aren't intriguing to me, I have seen Yusta since he was like 15, but he still has work to do with his shooting and is sooo damn slow for a wing, Hlinason and Charalampopoulos lack the athleticism, the icelandic guy is massive and all that, but there is no way he can be anything worth of a 1st round investment ever.

None of these guys, other than Okobo, who you didn't mention, and Marinkovic, are having productive years, the closest is Toliopoulos who has some NBA moves and he is playing like 10minpg.

I think I'd go

Doncic

Musa
Kurucs/Mushidi
Bonga
Okobo

Again, I doubt Bonga and Kurucs declare if they continue playing this way.

Kulboka and Simanic are candidates but man, those guys are so far away from been anything.

Stackey · Post #166 » by **Stackey** » Sat Nov 25, 2017 10:40 am

Ended with 18 points, 7 rebounds, 5 turnovers for the national team in the win vs Russia(Qualifications for the World Cup 2019). I watched the game and actually he didn't play that well, I guess even a bad player can have a good day and score 18, but only a good player can have a bad day and still score 18.

He was 3/5 for two, 1/7 for three and 9/15 free throws.

His highlights(facebook video)
https://www.facebook.com/301501366529476/videos/1850573131622284/

Stackey · Post #167 » by **Stackey** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:50 pm

0/2 for two, 0/6 for three vs France

Don7 · Post #168 » by **Don7** » Mon Nov 27, 2017 10:12 pm

I was pleasantly surprised by three point shoot this year.

And then he goes for 1/13 against best competition he faced this year.
Yeah i know Russia and France have roster problems but it was steel better teams then aba/eurocup opponents.

Stackey · Post #169 » by **Stackey** » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:23 am

Don7 wrote:I was pleasantly surprised by three point shoot this year.

And then he goes for 1/13 against best competition he faced this year.
Yeah i know Russia and France have roster problems but it was steel better teams then aba/eurocup opponents.

I'm not sure about that.

In the Eurocup, Cedevita won a game against Andorra by 18. Musa ended with 12 points(2/3 for three) in 15 minutes, while Andorra player Albicy ended with 0 points in 17 minutes played. That Albicy is a starting PG of this French national team.

Also in the Eurocup, Cedevita won by 20 against Unics Kazan. Musa ended with 20 points(4/7 for three) in 18 minutes.

In the Adriatic league, Cedevita won a game(79 : 74) versus Euroleague team Crvena Zvezda. Musa ended with 17 points(2/6 for three) in 18 minutes.

When you see rosters of Andorra(Jaka Blazic, Przemek Karnowski, David Jelinek etc.), Unics Kazan(Stephane Lasme, Kostas Kaimakoglou, Anton Ponkrashov etc.) Crvena Zvezda(Taylor Rochestie, Pero Antic, James Feldeine etc.), they are at least in the same league as Russia and France with those "B" squads.

Stackey · Post #170 » by **Stackey** » Sat Dec 2, 2017 7:11 pm

Adriatic league

Cedevita - MZT 77 :65

Musa

Minutes 26.38

Points 18

For two 4/7
For three 2/6
Free throws 4/5

D. Rebounds 2
O. Rebounds 0

Assists 1

Steals 0

Turnovers 0

Blocks 0
Blocks on him 0

Fouls 1
Fouls on him 3

His highlights on this link
https://www.slobodna-bosna.ba/vijest/66152/sedma_pobjeda_cedevite_u_aba_ligi_musa_najefikasniji_s_18_koseva_video.html

Stackey · Post #171 » by **Stackey** » Sat Dec 9, 2017 8:31 pm

Adriatic league

Partizan - Cedevita 82 : 92

Musa

Minutes 22.41

Points 16

For two 4/4
For three 2/6
Free throws 2/2

D. Rebounds 3
O. Rebounds 1

Assists 1

Steals 0

Turnovers 2

Blocks 0
Blocks on him 0

Fouls 1
Fouls on him 2

Post #172 » by **GimmeDat** » Sun Dec 10, 2017 11:09 am

Thanks for all the updates, Stackey.

Stackey · Post #173 » by **Stackey** » Mon Dec 18, 2017 2:47 am

Adriatic league

FMP - Cedevita 71 : 80

Musa

Minutes 19.49

Points 12

For two 1/2
For three 1/2
Free throws 7/8

D. Rebounds 1
O. Rebounds 0

Assists 0

Steals 0

Turnovers 2

Blocks 0
Blocks on him 0

Fouls 1
Fouls on him 6

From this game:

Stackey · Post #174 » by **Stackey** » Sun Dec 24, 2017 6:05 am

On this link there are two videos from the last Cedevita game in the Adriatic league. They won after the overtime
https://www.faktor.ba/vijest/musa-prvo-ime-u-pobjedi-cedevite-nad-zadrom-i-stipanovi-dvocifren-277551

First video is coach Zdovc yelling at Musa on the bench, because of bad reaction in defence

Second video are his highlights from this game, 18 points(2/2 for two, 2/5 for three, 8/12 free throws) in 20 minutes played. One rebound, two assists, one steal, one turnover.

Couple of days before in a Eurocup lost vs Unics Musa ended with 13 points, 5 rebounds in 24 minutes played, his highlights:
http://vijesti.ba/clanak/386790/cedevita-porazena-u-rusiji-dobar-nastup-muse-stipanovic-ubacio-cetiri-poena

Stackey · Post #175 » by **Stackey** » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:33 am

Eurocup, Cedevita - Levallois 94 : 79, Musa scored 17 points in 24.31 minutes played. 7/11 for two, 0/2 for three, 3/5 free throws.

Watch his highlights from this game here:
http://sportske.ba/eurocup-musa-fantastican-u-novom-trijumfu-cedevite/

Bosnian Diehard · Post #176 » by **Bosnian Diehard** » Sun Jan 7, 2018 11:16 pm

He had 26 pts/6 ast/5 reb in 26 minutes in a cup match.

Stackey · Post #177 » by **Stackey** » Mon Jan 22, 2018 12:33 pm

A lot of people are not sure is he right or left handed, he answered on that(7 : 05)

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armin-x · Post #178 » by **armin-x** » Thu Feb 1, 2018 7:36 pm

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Stackey · Post #179 » by **Stackey** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:31 am

Bosnia beats Belgium 72 : 70.

Musa played 29. 52 minutes, ended with 16 points(4/7 for two, 2/7 for three, 2/4 free throws), 5 rebounds.

He was bad in first three quarters but played well and scored some important points in the fourth in this close game.

Watch his points here

Watch on YouTube

Or here
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6f7dwk

Mulhollanddrive · Post #180 » by **Mulhollanddrive** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 1:15 pm

I see him going as high as 9 or 10 depending on team needs - NY, Philadephia, Charlotte could all do with length and shooting at the wing. His numbers also aren't that much different to Saric or Hezonja.