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Who do you compare the 2015 prospects to?

I'll kick things off...

D’Angelo Russell

• Best Case Scenario: Manu / Curry hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: Lillard
• Worst Case Scenario: Delonte West / Ben Gordon hybrid

Karl Towns

• Best Case Scenario: Tim Duncan
• Median Case Scenario: a longer Al Horford
• Worst Case Scenario: a Joakim Noah / Mike Muscala hybrid

Emmanual Mudiay

• Best Case Scenario: a less athletic John Wall / Jason Kidd hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: Tyreke / MCW hybrid
• Worst Case Scenario: this season's Rondo / Eric Snow

Jahlil Okafor

• Best Case Scenario: a Boogie / Bynum hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: an Al Jefferson / Brook Lopez hybrid
• Worst Case Scenario: thinner Eddy Curry

Justise Winslow (unsure on this one)

• Best Case Scenario: James Harden with less passing? / Kawhi with less length?
• Median Case Scenario: Jimmy Butler?? help me out here
• Worst Case Scenario: MKG?

Willie Cauley-Stein

• Best Case Scenario: a Tyson Chandler / DeAndre Jordan hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: Larry Sanders without the existential crisis
• Worst Case Scenario: Javale McGee

Stanley Johnson

• Best Case Scenario: a Paul Pierce / Ron Artest hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: a Joe Johnson / Jae Crowder hybrid
• Worst Case Scenario: a PJ Tucker / Corey Brewer hybrid

Mario Hezonja (hard to tell)

• Best Case Scenario: Galinari
• Median Case Scenario: JR Smith / Gerald Green
• Worst Case Scenario: Chase Budinger / Ben McLemore

Myles Turner

• Best Case Scenario: a Chris Bosh / LaMarcus Aldridge hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: some sort of Eddie Griffin / Joe Smith hybrid?
• Worst Case Scenario: Anthony Randolph / Earl Clark hybrid

Kristaps Porzingis

• Best Case Scenario: Bargnani in his prime fused with Raef LaFrentz (i refuse to say Dirk!)
• Median Case Scenario: Bargnani today
• Worst Case Scenario: Nikoloz Tskitishvili

Bobby Portis

• Best Case Scenario: David West / Aldridge-lite / Nikola Vucevic with less rebounding and more defensive energy
• Median Case Scenario: Lorenzen Wright?
• Worst Case Scenario: Trey Thompkins?

Cameron Payne

• Best Case Scenario: some sort of Mike Conley / Curry-lite / Jason Terry fusion
• Median Case Scenario: Trey Burke with more length
• Worst Case Scenario: Eric Maynor?

Frank Kaminsky (this one's got me stumped)

• Best Case Scenario: A more post-orientated Ryan Anderson?
• Median Case Scenario: Kelly Olynyk?
• Worst Case Scenario: Nick Fazekas

Kelly Oubre (another tough one. Very raw)

• Best Case Scenario: Rudy Gay
• Median Case Scenario: James Young / Ariza
• Worst Case Scenario: Wes Johnson

Delon Wright

• Best Case Scenario: a longer Andre Miller
• Median Case Scenario: Andre Miller-lite?
• Worst Case Scenario: ?

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

• Best Case Scenario: Some sort of Gerald Wallace / Kawhi-lite fusion?
• Median Case Scenario: MKG / Jerami Grant hybrid
• Worst Case Scenario: Hakim Warrick?

Sam Dekker (unsure)

• Best Case Scenario: Chandler Parsons?
• Median Case Scenario: Matt Barnes?
• Worst Case Scenario: ?

Kris Dunn

• Best Case Scenario: Russell Westbrook-lite
• Median Case Scenario: shorter Tony Wroten
• Worst Case Scenario: Marquis Teague

Devin Booker

• Best Case Scenario: Klay Thompson-lite / JJ Reddick
• Median Case Scenario: Wayne Ellington / Gary Harris
• Worst Case Scenario: Doron Lamb / Daequan Cook

Ok i'm getting carried away.



^ Make your own!

This should be fun to see how wrong I am in a few years lol.

D’Angelo Russell
Best Case Scenario: Manu Point Guard Version
Median Case Scenario: Brad Beal
Worst Case Scenario: Shooting Evan Turner

Karl Towns
Best Case Scenario: Bogut with range
Median Case Scenario: Nene
Worst Case Scenario: Black Spencer Hawes

Emmanual Mudiay
Best Case Scenario: Jason Kidd
Median Case Scenario: Worse shooting Jrue
Worst Case Scenario: Slower Tony Wroten

Jahlil Okafor (I agree with OP)
Best Case Scenario: a Boogie / Bynum hybrid
Median Case Scenario: an Al Jefferson / Brook Lopez hybrid
Worst Case Scenario: thinner Eddy Curry

Justise Winslow (unsure on this one)
Best Case Scenario: James Harden with less passing (if he can become a creator)
Median Case Scenario: Better Shooting MKG
Worst Case Scenario: 3 and D guy

Willie Cauley-Stein
Best Case Scenario: Chandler with more hops
Median Case Scenario: Sammy D but smart
Worst Case Scenario: Just Sammy D

Stanley Johnson
Best Case Scenario: a Paul Pierce / Ron Artest hybrid (good comp OP)
Median Case Scenario: Swole Evan Turner
Worst Case Scenario: a PJ Tucker / Corey Brewer hybrid (also good comp)

Mario Hezonja
Best Case Scenario: Rudy Gay
Median Case Scenario: Gerald Green
Worst Case Scenario: Croatian Nick Young w/ much less swaaaaaag

Myles Turner
Best Case Scenario: Channing Frye who plays Defense
Median Case Scenario: Raef LaFrentz
Worst Case Scenario: Anthony Randolph / Earl Clark hybrid (yepper)

Kristaps Porzingis (No Lies Detected)
Best Case Scenario: Bargnani in his prime fused with Raef LaFrentz (i refuse to say Dirk!)
Median Case Scenario: Bargnani today
Worst Case Scenario: Nikoloz Tskitishvili

Bobby Portis
Best Case Scenario: David West but less tough
Median Case Scenario: Speights
Worst Case Scenario: Henry Sims

Cameron Payne
Best Case Scenario: More in Control Lou Will
Median Case Scenario:Jared Bayless - less athletic tho
Worst Case Scenario: Willie Green

Frank Kaminsky
Best Case Scenario: How do I say Dirk without being an idiot....
Median Case Scenario: Troy Murphy
Worst Case Scenario: Jason Smith

Kelly Oubre
Best Case Scenario: Andrew Wiggins
Median Case Scenario: Wes Johnson
Worst Case Scenario: Male Model

Delon Wright
Best Case Scenario: Andre Miller
Median Case Scenario: MCW
Worst Case Scenario:Antonio Daniels

Rondae Hollis-Jefferson
Best Case Scenario: Iggy (lazy comp but I see it)
Median Case Scenario: Terence Williams
Worst Case Scenario: Rodney Carney and the other long list of super athletes who failed

Sam Dekker (unsure)
Best Case Scenario: Harrison Barnes
Median Case Scenario:Thad Young much better shooting version
Worst Case Scenario:Joe Alexander (trolololol)

Devin Booker
Best Case Scenario: What people hope JJ Redick would become
Median Case Scenario: What JJ Redick did become
Worst Case Scenario: What people who hated JJ wished he became

Funny how international prospects are always projected(even in best case scenario) to some bad or borderline mediocre players but every year from NCAA we have new Harden,Duncan,Cousins,Curry,Conley,Wall,Pierce,Kawhi...

Has anybody made the Caron Butler comparison for Stanley Johnson?

Mik317 wrote:Frank Kaminsky
Best Case Scenario: How do I say Dirk without being an idiot....

You dont lol

EMG518 wrote:

Mik317 wrote:Frank Kaminsky
Best Case Scenario: How do I say Dirk without being an idiot....

You dont lol

lol.

I like Frank the Tank a lot. Very fun player to watch..but I seriously question his NBA potential.

Barnsey wrote:
^ Make your own!

SOme of your comparisons are pretty right on. I bolded anything I changed

D’Angelo Russell

Best Case Scenario: James Harden
Median Case Scenario: Brandon Roy
Worst Case Scenario: Ben Gordon

Karl Towns

Best Case Scenario: Patrick Ewing I think he is really good
Median Case Scenario: Rasheed Wallace
Worst Case Scenario: Tyson Chandler

Emmanual Mudiay

Best Case Scenario: John Wall
Median Case Scenario: Tyreke Evans
Worst Case Scenario: Randy Foye

Jahlil Okafor

Best Case Scenario: Greg Monroe
Median Case Scenario: Brook Lopez
Worst Case Scenario: thinner Eddy Curry

Justise Winslow

Best Case Scenario: Ron Artest
Median Case Scenario: Kawhi Leonard
Worst Case Scenario: MKG

Willie Cauley-Stein

Best Case Scenario: Joakim Noah
Median Case Scenario: thicker Brandon Wright
Worst Case Scenario: Javale McGee


Mario Hezonja

Best Case Scenario: Drazen Petrovic
Median Case Scenario: Hedo Turkoglu
Worst Case Scenario: Chase Budinger


Kristaps Porzingis

Best Case Scenario: Raef LaFrentz
Median Case Scenario: Andrea Bargnani (this isnt a compliment)
Worst Case Scenario: Nikoloz Tskitishvili


Cameron Payne

Best Case Scenario: Ray Felton
Median Case Scenario: Austin Rivers
Worst Case Scenario: Eric Maynor

Frank Kaminsky

Best Case Scenario: Troy Murphy
Median Case Scenario: Josh McRoberts
Worst Case Scenario: Nick Fazekas

Kelly Oubre

Best Case Scenario: Trevor Ariza
Median Case Scenario: Jeremy Lamb
Worst Case Scenario: Wes Johnson

Delon Wright

Best Case Scenario: Latrell Sprewell
Median Case Scenario: Tim Hardaway jr
Worst Case Scenario: Kirk Snyder


Sam Dekker

Best Case Scenario: Chandler Parsons
Median Case Scenario: Kyle Singler
Worst Case Scenario: Danny Ferry


Devin Booker

Best Case Scenario: Klay Thompson
Median Case Scenario: JJ Redick
Worst Case Scenario: Daequan Cook

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Has anybody made the Caron Butler comparison for Stanley Johnson?

Caron Butler was a very tough mental player that filled the stat sheet

mos_def wrote:

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Has anybody made the Caron Butler comparison for Stanley Johnson?

Caron Butler was a very tough mental player that filled the stat sheet

That's kind of what I project Stan Johnson to be - a tough, physical forward (not to the extent of prime Artest) who will be a plus rebounder.

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:

mos_def wrote:

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:Has anybody made the Caron Butler comparison for Stanley Johnson?

Caron Butler was a very tough mental player that filled the stat sheet

That's kind of what I project Stan Johnson to be - a tough, physical forward (not to the extent of prime Artest) who will be a plus rebounder.

I dont know. I think he is a decent player but I find him to be more Richard Jefferson

this thread will be a good addition to something i had in mind for the board. keep the inputs coming.

I am not going to say they are all bad, but wow guys you are overall crazy optimistic with your comparisons unless you mean them only as an exercise of style.

mos_def wrote:

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:

mos_def wrote:
Caron Butler was a very tough mental player that filled the stat sheet

That's kind of what I project Stan Johnson to be - a tough, physical forward (not to the extent of prime Artest) who will be a plus rebounder.

I dont know. I think he is a decent player but I find him to be more Richard Jefferson

Prime Richard Jefferson was better than prime Caron Butler dawg. He'd be more than decent if he turned out to be Richard Jefferson.

Russell's best case is Harden and his median case is Roy? lol ok

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
Prime Richard Jefferson was better than prime Caron Butler dawg. He'd be more than decent if he turned out to be Richard Jefferson.

No he wasnt. You need to look at his stats again if that is what you are going by. Butler was better all around, better longer, and didnt have Jason Kidd to boost his numbers

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:

mos_def wrote:

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:
That's kind of what I project Stan Johnson to be - a tough, physical forward (not to the extent of prime Artest) who will be a plus rebounder.

I dont know. I think he is a decent player but I find him to be more Richard Jefferson

Prime Richard Jefferson was better than prime Caron Butler dawg.

WUT?

Karl Towns:
optimistic - Alonzo Mourning
likelier - Al Horford

Jahlil Okafor:
optimistic - Bob Lanier
likelier - Al Jefferson

Emmanuel Mudiay:
optimistic - Jason Kidd
likelier - Rod Strickland

D'Angelo Russell:
optimistic - Brandon Roy
likelier - Jamal Crawford

Stanley Johnson:
optimistic - Glen Rice
likelier - Luol Deng

Justise Winslow:
optimistic - Ron Artest
likelier - Jeff Green

Jerian Grant:
optimistic - Terry Porter
likelier - Derek Harper

Bobby Portis:
optimistic - LaMarcus Aldridge
likelier - Joe Smith

WCS:
optimistic - Tyson Chandler
likelier - Samuel Dalembert

Sam Dekker:
optimistic - Richard Jefferson
likelier - Trevor Ariza

Robert Upshaw:
optimistic - Mark Eaton
likelier - Oliver Miller

Frank Kaminsky:
optimistic - Detlef Schrempf
likelier - Donatas Motiejunas

Myles Turner:
optimistic - Rasheed Wallace
likelier - Danny Schayes

Montrezl Harrell:
optimistic - Antonio Davis
likelier - Birdman

Kevon Looney:
optimistic - Rashard Lewis
likelier - Ersan Ilyasova

Delon Wright:
optimistic - Andre Miller
likelier - Shaun Livingston

Devin Booker:
optimistic - Rip Hamilton
likelier - J.J. Redick

Tyus Jones:
optimistic - Mike Conley
likelier - Earl Watson

Cameron Payne:
optimistic - Jeff Teague
likelier - Eric Murdock

Justin Anderson:
optimistic - Wes Matthews
likelier - Jared Dudley

Mario Hezonja:
optimistic - Khris Middleton
likelier - James Posey

Jarell Martin:
optimistic - Al Harrington, Tobias Harris
likelier - Clarence Weatherspoon

Kelly Oubre:
optimistic - Kendall Gill
likelier - Brandon Rush

Kristaps Porzingis:
optimistic - Clifford Robinson
likelier - Nikola Tskitishvili

RJ Hunter:
optimistic - Kevin Martin
likelier - Luke Babbitt!

Fischella wrote:

Mr.Raptorsingh wrote:

mos_def wrote:
I dont know. I think he is a decent player but I find him to be more Richard Jefferson

Prime Richard Jefferson was better than prime Caron Butler dawg.

WUT?

Man, maybe since I'm a Raptors fan, my views on who's prime was better is a bit altered, 'cause Jefferson destroyed the Raptors often whenever he faced us, and when you look at his career numbers, as well compare Jefferson's single-season bests to Butler's, Jefferson compares favorably to Butler. It's actually pretty even, but Jefferson's WS/48 is higher, and his single best season (~23 PPG) beats Butler's.

Check it for yourself here:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 4=&p5=&p6=

Anyway, Stan Johnson's profile is more Butler to me than Jefferson, who was quite the athlete coming into the league.

Jefferson used to average like 4 TO's a game in his prime if i remember correctly. I'd take prime Caron over him.

Edit: Just checked, no he didn't

Some of the comparisons i liked and hadn't thought of myself in this thread...

Mudiay
Median Case Scenario: Worse shooting Jrue

I can see that

Has anybody made the Caron Butler comparison for Stanley Johnson?

Hadn't thought of that, that's possible!

Towns
Median Case Scenario: Rasheed Wallace

Good one!

Okafor
Best Case Scenario: Greg Monroe

Yep! But maybe with less passing and more post scoring skill.

Kaminsky
likelier - Donatas Motiejunas

Good one

Montrezl Harrell:
optimistic - Antonio Davis

Good one


Some of the comparisons that i didn't like...

Kaminksy
Median Case Scenario: Troy Murphy

Hmm dunno about that one. Murphy was a rebounding specialist (who could shoot). Rebounding is a question mark for Kaminsky.

Kaminsky
Median Case Scenario: Josh McRoberts

Naaaww. McRoberts is athletic as hell.

Delon Wright
Best Case Scenario: Latrell Sprewell
Median Case Scenario: Tim Hardaway jr

Waaay off. Delon is a PG who struggles with shooting and isn't that athletic. Sprewell is a SG scoring machine who was athletic as hell. Tim Hardaway is like a pure SG type.

Anyway here's some more of my own...

Montrezl Harrell

• Best Case Scenario: Kenneth Faried / Ben Wallace hybrid
• Median Case Scenario: A more athletic Jason Maxiell
• Worst Case Scenario: Some raw athletic PF/C type that washes out of the league

Tyus Jones

• Best Case Scenario: Steve Nash-lite
• Median Case Scenario: Tyler Ellis
• Worst Case Scenario: ends up playing in Europe