Potential sleepers

[916fan]

for a shooter he's not a reliable shooter and will get dogged on defense. He may have to go overseas until his late 20's to hone his game. Right now he'd be a deer in headlights.

I actually broke down his shooting inconsistencies last year and I didn't think he was nearly as good as his %s were saying. However, I notice a big improvement this year. I think he's definitely a reliable shooter.

People in general seem to be down on Mykhailuk here. I see him as a 2nd round candidate, and I'd be surprised if he didn't get drafted. He's a 6'8 SG. A big thing he has going for him is his age. He'll only be 21, so it's not like he's a 23yearold senior.

[baldur]

What Do you think about 21 year old Serbian guard vanja marinkovic?

[cashmachine]

I also like Moritz Wagner as a stretch 4. He can play with any of our big men.

I see him as a stretch 5, similar to Mike Muscala. I do feel Wagner could be better than Moose if he can develop that range more and gain more functional athletic ability.

I agree he fits that as well. I was just thinking he can compliment Gobert if starting or Udoh if coming off the bench. Both those guys protect the rim and Moritz would increase the spacing. Can also be that stretch 5 while playing with Crowder. Allows for interesting possibilities in Utah.

[nolang1]

Have talked about Jalen McDaniels a couple times before, but if he's able to get up to 220 pounds or so it'd be hard to see him being anything less than an above-average combo forward. He clearly has good rebounding/defensive instincts to be effective despite being a stick figure at this point.

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His freshman year stats are quite similar to Kawhi's at SDSU. Kawhi was six months younger his sophomore season than McDaniels was this season and they play different styles, but with that and the shot in mind it seems likely that McDaniels will be a much better 3-point shooting in the NBA than he was in college.

He's not signed with an agent but if he measures at a 7'2+ wingspan and shoots the ball well in workouts I'm sure some team would take him in the first round at least.



Here's Leonard's 2010-11 (sophomore, highlighted) conference numbers per 40 next to McDaniels'. Obviously Leonard is more of a perimeter player tasked with more shot creation, but McDaniels has a lot of talent to work with.

[kalenclayton]

I know he’s going to be old for a rookie, but I think George King out of Colorado looks good. He seems to have the all around game that could get him a bench role. Does anyone have any thoughts on him?

[Catchall]

Jared Vanderbilt's stock is at a point where he might be considered a sleeper at the moment. It's really just shooting for him. That, and whether the foot issues might be chronic.

[Justwar]

Three foot injuries in three years says chronic but he desperately needs to learn how to shoot. Might rebound at a crazy rate but you cannot be a offensive liability

[nolang1]

Even without the shooting, you could probably say he can be a poor man's Jordan Bell (who is 4 years older) at least, and I'd say regardless of what you think Bell's potential may be he's at least a good reserve player for a great team right now.

[Yuri Vaultin]

Jerome Robinson.

[Feed Your Head]

Jerome Robinson.

Don't think he's much of a sleeper anymore, he's been incredible in workouts and could very well go in the teens.

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[GimmeDat]

I did believe Jerome Robinson was a step above the other small scorer types based on his offensive polish, relative efficiency, decent playmaking for others, and slightly better physical tools. But man, I did not see him going mid-1st. All credit to him, I'm sure he'll be an NBA caliber player, but how valuable is an undersized 2 with zero defense, especially coming in after 3 college seasons?

[Stillwater]

deep dark sleeping late risers from undrafted into the mid -late 2nd: Kendrick Nunn, BJ Johnson, Devon Hall, Jared Terrell.

[No-Man]

The Jerome Robinson hype train makes 0 sense to me, even if he is the best of his archetype, Kevin Martin-ish, that player is still pretty much empty calories

[916fan]

The Jerome Robinson hype train makes 0 sense to me, even if he is the best of his archetype, Kevin Martin-ish, that player is still pretty much empty calories

You're not giving enough credit to Kevin Martin. Martin was more than a spot-up shooter, his ability to get off shots in any circumstances is what made him special. Haven't really watched Robinson at all, but if his archetype is a K Mart-ish, then I could see why he's going top 20. That's similar to Klay on offense lol

[No-Man]

That's similar to Klay on offense lol

eeeh nope

[Stillwater]

The Jerome Robinson hype train makes 0 sense to me, even if he is the best of his archetype, Kevin Martin-ish, that player is still pretty much empty calories

I think he got a first round promise or something given he was a green room invite. I agree he is not a 2 way player so it's difficult to value him above others who have the offensive ceiling similar to what he should bring but are more capable defenders.
That being said he is a proto sized 2 guard with a decent handle , is a natural scorer and a really good shooter which is mostly lacking
in this draft at the 2 guard spot.

[doordoor123]

deep dark sleeping late risers from undrafted into the mid -late 2nd: Kendrick Nunn, BJ Johnson, Devon Hall, Jared Terrell.

There’s no way Kendrick Nunn is drafted. Like 0 percent. He has off the court issues.

[Stillwater]

deep dark sleeping late risers from undrafted into the mid -late 2nd: Kendrick Nunn, BJ Johnson, Devon Hall, Jared Terrell.

There’s no way Kendrick Nunn is drafted. Like 0 percent. He has off the court issues.

yes the past is haunting him to this day, but I'm pretty sure he will get picked up late 2nd as the skill level will over ride the
labels that if you look at the details were not warranted in such a way that he should have to live with it his entire life.
Now if the behavior was repetitive and violent or sexual in nature I would agree with you, but throwing water on your x girlfriend
for stealing your $ isn't exactly the same level of abuse , + he admitted it immediately and regretted it.

[doordoor123]

deep dark sleeping late risers from undrafted into the mid -late 2nd: Kendrick Nunn, BJ Johnson, Devon Hall, Jared Terrell.

There’s no way Kendrick Nunn is drafted. Like 0 percent. He has off the court issues.

yes the past is haunting him to this day, but I'm pretty sure he will get picked up late 2nd as the skill level will over ride the
labels that if you look at the details were not warranted in such a way that he should have to live with it his entire life.
Now if the behavior was repetitive and violent or sexual in nature I would agree with you, but throwing water on your x girlfriend
for stealing your $ isn't exactly the same level of abuse , + he admitted it immediately and regretted it.

Again, I guarantee he’s not getting drafted. He’ll probably secure a team that will sign him after the draft, but he’s not getting drafted.

[GeorgeMarcus]

Haven't read any of this thread and not sure if this qualifies as a sleeper, but I love Troy Brown. I would love if the Sixers could package the 26 with a couple 2nds or maybe Richaun Holmes to grab him in the 18-20 range.