TheZachAttack wrote: RationalGaze wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:If the Wolves don't win the lottery I'd be very happy to get Murray at 5. Minnesota already has guys who can drive to the bucket in Wiggins/LaVine/Muhammad, they desperately need a knock down shooter to spread the floor and Murray seems like a great fit. He could also play some minutes at backup PG on nights when Tyus Jones lack of size leaves him at a disadvantage. I'd also prefer to have Murray as our 3rd PG instead of trying to have LaVine play a position he just isn't suited for. Murray's age and potential to play some PG would put him ahead of Hield on my draft board.
I don't get Wolves fans' logic when it comes to drafting Murray. You have LaVine and Wiggins headed for their breakout years and will probably be playing 34 minutes a game for you and you all want to draft Murray? He'll get about 14-17 minutes a game to be a backup when he's a starter. Drafting a guy 5th overall to be a backup makes sense how? LaVine's shooting is definitely becoming a highlight as he shot 47% from 3 for March and is currently 40% from 3 for April as well as being almost 40% for the season.
I suggest becoming familiar with all the forwards, because that's likely to be the pick.
That's not true or at least not the rational for wanting to draft Murray. Those who are in the Murray camp usually argue that Murray would back up Lavine and get 15-16 minutes there and that you could also then play both Murray and Lavine together for spurts too. Murray would be sort of a 6th man. Him and Lavine are both combo guards that can dish a little bit but probably shouldnt be doing the ball handling duties on their own. That would be an interesting combo of shooting and scoring ability. And you could easily find Murray 25-30 minutes. What looks better a guard rotation of Rubio/Lavine/Tyus? or Rubio/Lavine/Murray. Not to mention he can hit 40% from deep which the Wolves need. And they need a better ball handler off the bench who can consistently create offense.
It's easily do able and would really be cutting into Shabazz's minutes if anything else--which is okay...
Just saying that's the argument whether or not you agree with the pick...that's the logic and it's sound logic.
LaVine is not a combo guard. I figured that would have been decided last season after Mitchell tried fitting the square peg in the round hole.
Murray actually has a nice handle for those who've watched him and that's partly why he's able to score so well.
So you want to draft a backup 5th overall? Got it. He will only be getting bench minutes while Rubio will be getting 34 minutes himself given he's the team's best defender and a tier operator while Murray isn't. You can run Rubio and Murray, but not LaVine and Murray. A better future lineup would be Rubio, LaVine, Wiggins, Deyonta, and Karl. With LaVine improving his defense and Thibodeau to maximize Wiggins' defense you'll be getting possibly elite defense 1-5.
Drafting Jamal to play 14 minutes at shooting guard then 14 at point? Who's going to play next to Murray to be the shooting guard that the Wolves need depth for? Won't be LaVine while he's resting.
I like Tyus, Allen Crabbe, Shabazz for the time being, Bjelica, and Dieng for the 2nd unit.
Wolves don't need Murray off the bench, but I'm sure they'd love to have him coming off the bench. Murray won't love it since he's a starter. Murray only tests for the Wolves if he thinks he's better than LaVine and last I check Murray doesn't glide from the free throw line nor creates his shot as easy as LaVine.