2018 NBA Draft

[DirtyDez]

Bamba is older than Fultz.

Jaren Jackson is bottom age think he's 17 going to be 18 when drafted.

So Bamba should've been in college this past year? Top-10 pick?

[GimmeDat]

Who has the most upside outside the top 4 players?

There's usually someone that jumps from the pack.

I haven't seen enough of him but I think Wendell Carter is the guy I like the most outside the top 4. Ticks a lot of boxes.

Duval also would have a lot of upside if he can fix the jumper - unfortunately, it's pretty broken.

[The-Power]

Who has the most upside outside the top 4 players?

Who's in your top 4/the top 4 you have in mind? Doncic, Porter, Bamba and Ayton I suppose?

[CptCrunch]

Bamba is older than Fultz.

Jaren Jackson is bottom age think he's 17 going to be 18 when drafted.

So Bamba should've been in college this past year? Top-10 pick?

Porter, Bama, Ayton are all super seniors. They all should be in this year's class. This is why age matters.

Jackson was the super senior from this year.

[reanimator]

Kid shows natural ability as a scorer (inside/outside), get separation on the perimeter, etc.

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

[reanimator]

I don't stress the age stuff as much with bigmen. Totally different and longer developmental timeline on average than perimeter players.

[UcanUwill]

Kid shows natural ability as a scorer (inside/outside), get separation on the perimeter, etc.

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

He is a very good finisher. He just struggle to beat people off the dribble, lack of speed and poor first step.

[DirtyDez]

Bamba is older than Fultz.

Jaren Jackson is bottom age think he's 17 going to be 18 when drafted.

So Bamba should've been in college this past year? Top-10 pick?

Porter, Bama, Ayton are all super seniors. They all should be in this year's class. This is why age matters.

Jackson was the super senior from this year.

Not Ayton. He was born after 7/1 and will still be 19 when drafted. Jackson will turn 21 his rookie season. Lame.

[CptCrunch]

So Bamba should've been in college this past year? Top-10 pick?

Porter, Bama, Ayton are all super seniors. They all should be in this year's class. This is why age matters.

Jackson was the super senior from this year.

Not Ayton. He was born after 7/1 and will still be 19 when drafted. Jackson will turn 21 his rookie season. Lame.

Doesn't matter if you are 'still' 19. Effectively 19.9. Freshmen drafted should be 19 when drafted, not 20 or 21.

[bennjuiced34]

Kid shows natural ability as a scorer (inside/outside), get separation on the perimeter, etc.

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

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[bennjuiced34]

Kid shows natural ability as a scorer (inside/outside), get separation on the perimeter, etc.

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

He's 18 years old. You're expecting him to have a full arsenal of moves at that age?

I assume you've set the same bar for Porter, Ayton, Bamba, etc right? Only fair.

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[Patsfan1081]

Bamba is older than Fultz.

Jaren Jackson is bottom age think he's 17 going to be 18 when drafted.

So Bamba should've been in college this past year? Top-10 pick?

Porter, Bama, Ayton are all super seniors. They all should be in this year's class. This is why age matters.

Jackson was the super senior from this year.

Who cares, Bagley Jr should have been in this class also. Hopefully these kids will just come in with less maturity issues.

[reanimator]

Kid shows natural ability as a scorer (inside/outside), get separation on the perimeter, etc.

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

He's 18 years old. You're expecting him to have a full arsenal of moves at that age?

I assume you've set the same bar for Porter, Ayton, Bamba, etc right? Only fair.

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Most perimeter players with some creation ability have the crossovers, change of speeds, etc by that age so why not? He can still be a good PnR player with a meat n potatoes handle but it doesn't make me confident in him as some volume scorer at the NBA level.

[bennjuiced34]

Ummmmm thats his biggest question mark. Inability to finish through contact, no pull up, rudimentary though intriguing ability to play out of the post, lack of burst and creativity as a handler. Has that step back 3 he loves, though.

Basically at his best as a grab and go guy in transition and a PnR handler who is always looking to pass. A utility guy at this point.

He's 18 years old. You're expecting him to have a full arsenal of moves at that age?

I assume you've set the same bar for Porter, Ayton, Bamba, etc right? Only fair.

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Most perimeter players with some creation ability have the crossovers, change of speeds, etc by that age so why not? He can still be a good PnR player with a meat n potatoes handle but it doesn't make me confident in him as some volume scorer at the NBA level.

Doncic has those skills already so I'm not sure what you're getting at. He has a good offensive skill set to built on and he's 18 years old. You don't think rest can be developed?

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[bennjuiced34]

Why are you evaluating him as a volume scorer if that's not his game? He's a point forward prospect with natural scoring ability.

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[SportsGuy8]

Just leave it, bennjuiced34. Reanimator actually said that Ntilikina is a better prospect than Doncic. Just let that sink in.

Doncic being one of the best passers, especially for his height ...
Doncic being one of the best rebounders for PG, SG, even SF positions ...
Doncic having a very good frame, while already showing signs of being very strong, looking for contact, indicating he's going to be a bull as he matures ...
Doncic having a feel for the game almost noone else has, already playing like a vet at 17, now 18 ...
...

In the eyes of many all these traits don't amount to much because he's not super-duper-elite at scoring and/or supposedly doesn't have the tools/athleticism to become that. When it comes to top (especially perimeter) prospects, sadly (potential) volume scorers make people wet, while everyone else is at most a glorified role-player, no matter how special, or even unprecedented someone is at other things ...

[reanimator]

Why are you evaluating him as a volume scorer if that's not his game? He's a point forward prospect with natural scoring ability.

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"kid shows natural ability as a scorer..."

[jonjames]

1. Deandre Ayton
2. Mo Bamba
3. Michael Porter
4. Luka Doncic
5. Kevin Knox
6. Trevon Duval
7. Miles Bridges
8. Collin Sexton
9. Issac Bonga
10. Robert Williams
11. Hamidou Diallo
12. Billy Preston
13. Alonzo Trier
14. Lonnie Walker
15. Rawle Alkins
16. VJ king
17. Malik Newman
18. Jaren Jackson
19. Mitchell Robinson
20. Grayson Allen
21. Wendell Carter
22. Jarred Vanderbilt
23. Moe Wagner
24. Brandon Mccoy
25. Troy Brown

Personal top 25 as of now. Not huge fan of robert williams at next level but sccouts seem prettt high on him. Not high on wendell carter either.

[bennjuiced34]

Why are you evaluating him as a volume scorer if that's not his game? He's a point forward prospect with natural scoring ability.

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"kid shows natural ability as a scorer..."

How is that in any way a reference to him being a volume scorer? It's saying he can score and has the tools to do so. But that's not all he's capable of.

But, thanks for quoting something I said rather than answering my question.

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[PhilBlackson]

It's crazy to me that Kostas Antentokounmpo never gets mentioned.

Remember who told you to look out for him first