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i'm not too worried about fox's ability to develop his shot, to be honest. his form doesn't look bad, let alone broken and he shoots a decent clip at the free throw line. he also has good touch around the rim which bodes well.
i have to look at the other top prospects (and more of de'aaron) but i like what i see from him.
i have to look at the other top prospects (and more of de'aaron) but i like what i see from him.
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Fox is the worst shooting lotto PG/SG prospect to come out in the last decade. Even Ricky "Mystery Man" Rubio shot better in a tougher league.
I don't really care what he did in the tourney. With his complete lack of shooting, I'm not touching him anywhere near top 5.
I don't really care what he did in the tourney. With his complete lack of shooting, I'm not touching him anywhere near top 5.
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I get not putting too much stock in his hot tourney shooting because of the sample size, but then no one should put that much on him shooting 17-69 from 3 the whole season. Yeah, it's not a great indicator and he already had some worries about his shooting, but it's still less than 70 shots in a year, so it's not like it's definitive proof that he'll never learn to shoot.
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whitehops wrote:i'm not too worried about fox's ability to develop his shot, to be honest. his form doesn't look bad, let alone broken and he shoots a decent clip at the free throw line. he also has good touch around the rim which bodes well.
i have to look at the other top prospects (and more of de'aaron) but i like what i see from him.
The kid shoots the ball from the side of his face. That works at the free throw line because he can take his time to align his feet and shooting hand relative to the basket.
Shooting jumpers off the dribble and set shots outside of 15 feet with that form isnt going to work imo. I havent seen someone with that shooting form since the 90s.
That shot needs to be reworked
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cksdayoff wrote:whitehops wrote:i'm not too worried about fox's ability to develop his shot, to be honest. his form doesn't look bad, let alone broken and he shoots a decent clip at the free throw line. he also has good touch around the rim which bodes well.
i have to look at the other top prospects (and more of de'aaron) but i like what i see from him.
The kid shoots the ball from the side of his face. That works at the free throw line because he can take his time to align his feet and shooting hand relative to the basket.
Shooting jumpers off the dribble and set shots outside of 15 feet with that form isnt going to work imo. I havent seen someone with that shooting form since the 90s.
That shot needs to be reworked
Do you have a picture or film that shows this rare shooting form? From all the tapes I've watched, I never noticed this. He releases it slightly to his left, but that's not uncommon for a left eye dominant player.
This video from a high school games show multiple three point shots from a great angle. I don't see anything close to the extremely particular shooting form you're describing.
For reference a picture of Malik Monk shooting, considered as the best shooter from this class.
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Kolkmania wrote:
Do you have a picture or film that shows this rare shooting form? From all the tapes I've watched, I never noticed this. He releases it slightly to his left, but that's not uncommon for a left eye dominant player.
Check out 5:40 and 5:46, 5:47, 5:53, 6:00
I think Fox and Monk's forms are different. You're right that Monk brings the ball up slightly left, but Fox literally brings the ball up almost to the side of his head. It varies from shot to shot a little, maybe that's why his jumper has been so inconsistent.
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cksdayoff wrote:Kolkmania wrote:
Do you have a picture or film that shows this rare shooting form? From all the tapes I've watched, I never noticed this. He releases it slightly to his left, but that's not uncommon for a left eye dominant player.
Check out 5:40 and 5:46, 5:47, 5:53, 6:00
I think Fox and Monk's forms are different. You're right that Monk brings the ball up slightly left, but Fox literally brings the ball up almost to the side of his head. It varies from shot to shot a little, maybe that's why his jumper has been so inconsistent.
Hmm, I see what you're saying. The angles could be a bit misleading though, do you see it as well at 6:42? But don't get me wrong, I don't think his shooting form is perfect. I would love to see him making it a bit more compact, reducing the cog back while pulling up for example. I think that's why you think his alignment is completely off.
Pause it at 0:58 and play it with 0.25 speed.
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He glides into the paint.
No one will be able to stop him from getting to cup once he tightens his handle.
He can become a very valuable offensive player even if his jump shot remains poor.
Shot almost 50 percent on floaters too.
No one will be able to stop him from getting to cup once he tightens his handle.
He can become a very valuable offensive player even if his jump shot remains poor.
Shot almost 50 percent on floaters too.
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Derento wrote:He glides into the paint.
No one will be able to stop him from getting to cup once he tightens his handle.
He can become a very valuable offensive player even if his jump shot remains poor.
Shot almost 50 percent on floaters too.
Where can I find floater %? I see 36.2% from 2's.
https://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php
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paulbball wrote:Derento wrote:He glides into the paint.
No one will be able to stop him from getting to cup once he tightens his handle.
He can become a very valuable offensive player even if his jump shot remains poor.
Shot almost 50 percent on floaters too.
Where can I find floater %? I see 36.2% from 2's.
https://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php
I think it says what his percentage on floaters was in the video and it's pretty good to elite.
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MotownMadness wrote:paulbball wrote:Derento wrote:He glides into the paint.
No one will be able to stop him from getting to cup once he tightens his handle.
He can become a very valuable offensive player even if his jump shot remains poor.
Shot almost 50 percent on floaters too.
Where can I find floater %? I see 36.2% from 2's.
https://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php
I think it says what his percentage on floaters was in the video and it's pretty good to elite.
Can I 'make up' stats if I start making highlight videos? Like this 41k youtuber.
50% floater is quite an absurd figure. If you shoot 50%, make all your shots floaters.
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paulbball wrote:MotownMadness wrote:paulbball wrote:
Where can I find floater %? I see 36.2% from 2's.
https://hoop-math.com/Kentucky2017.php
I think it says what his percentage on floaters was in the video and it's pretty good to elite.
Can I 'make up' stats if I start making highlight videos? Like this 41k youtuber.
50% floater is quite an absurd figure. If you shoot 50%, make all your shots floaters.
Are they wrong? I mean DraftExpress is a pretty respectable youtuber.
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MotownMadness wrote:paulbball wrote:MotownMadness wrote: I think it says what his percentage on floaters was in the video and it's pretty good to elite.
Can I 'make up' stats if I start making highlight videos? Like this 41k youtuber.
50% floater is quite an absurd figure. If you shoot 50%, make all your shots floaters.
Are they wrong? I mean DraftExpress is a pretty respectable youtuber.
Yeah I mean if DX was just "making up stats" than they would have been called out for it many times over.
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D Fox has a great deal in common with a young Tony Parker. He is such a fast player with great ball handling and finishing ability that he will not need a 3 point shot. He will not need one until he slows down which will be years from now. I have yet to see Fox characterized as a scorer, yet I believe that is what he will be in the NBA much like Rose was once he left Kentucky.
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The Mavs missed the playoffs without Brunson.
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Yes to fox. He will be very good.
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Fischella wrote:islanders11040 wrote:He was 2-4 on jumpers yesterday. Idk how you categorize 50% as "automatic brick". (13-15 from ft line as a bonus too)
Also is fox still in the 20's for you as of today? If not then where?
He made 1 real jumper, the other one was a one-handed one falling over his man, and his misses where awful, not even close.
yeah he is in the 20s still for me, I said that like what, 2 weeks ago? not changing my stance because of a game that didnt show nothing new, there is where his value normalizes, he is never gonna be available there though.
just checking in. Still in the 20's for u?
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islanders11040 wrote:Fischella wrote:islanders11040 wrote:He was 2-4 on jumpers yesterday. Idk how you categorize 50% as "automatic brick". (13-15 from ft line as a bonus too)
Also is fox still in the 20's for you as of today? If not then where?
He made 1 real jumper, the other one was a one-handed one falling over his man, and his misses where awful, not even close.
yeah he is in the 20s still for me, I said that like what, 2 weeks ago? not changing my stance because of a game that didnt show nothing new, there is where his value normalizes, he is never gonna be available there though.
just checking in. Still in the 20's for u?
Yeah, I won't kill somebody if they pick him like in late lotto or the teens, I understand that for some franchises winning it all ain't the priority+you can always justify that value if he becomes a trade asset, but as a prospect himself, as a player, he is a guy I'd not invest a top15 pick on.
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