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Foot was on the line.
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lambchop wrote:thought he did that in game when I read the title. This used to be somewhat basic dunk for very athletic nba players, so I'm not surprised he can pull it off. Still impressive of course
Lol, there's nothing basic about this at all.
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Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
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Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
Yeah, probably the best athlete since Anthony Davis I'd think?
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DBurks2818 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
Yeah, probably the best athlete since Anthony Davis I'd think?
Better athlete than AD, who's a great athlete himself. Probably the best athlete since LeBron, IMO.
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Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
As a North-South leaper certainly but Ben Simmons is more explosive as a East-West runner.
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Filthadelphia wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
As a North-South leaper certainly but Ben Simmons is more explosive as a East-West runner.
I bet Simmons could jump laterally from the ft line and dunk it.
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Best all-around athletic prospect since LeBron. No question.
I hope he can become a Charles Barkley type at the next level.
I hope he can become a Charles Barkley type at the next level.
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Guy's listed weight is 285lbs, he's dunking from the FT line, and that's basic.
I just don't get RealGM sometimes.
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leftsyde wrote:lambchop wrote:thought he did that in game when I read the title. This used to be somewhat basic dunk for very athletic nba players, so I'm not surprised he can pull it off. Still impressive of course
Man this isn’t a foot over the line, this is a legit ft dunk.
How on earth is this basic for athletic players. Please post a vid of some other dunks done from that spot, there should be hundreds since it’s so basic right?
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You cant really tell in the video that OP posted, but from a posterior angle he actually slowed down and gathered himself about half way through his run. Makes this that much more impressive.
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PistolPeteJR wrote:Guy's listed weight is 285lbs, he's dunking from the FT line, and that's basic.
I just don't get RealGM sometimes.
So he's still pretty big but he says he's not currently as heavy as his listing
he's listed at 6-foot-7 and 285 pounds on the roster but says he's currently at 6'7 and 271 pounds
https://247sports.com/college/duke/Article/Zion-Williamson-Talks-Versatility-And-Freshman-Adjustment-Ahead-Of-Canada-Trip-120491994/
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Filthadelphia wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
As a North-South leaper certainly but Ben Simmons is more explosive as a East-West runner.
Simmons is a great athlete, but I still might give the edge to Zion on this. He is extremely fluid and nimble and moves very well laterally.
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clyde21 wrote:DBurks2818 wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:Most FT line dunks the guys heel is passed the line. This is a legit FT line dunk. So many crazy things about this, him being able to do this at his size, him doing this with such ease. Athletically, he has to be the best prospect in the last decade+.
Yeah, probably the best athlete since Anthony Davis I'd think?
Better athlete than AD, who's a great athlete himself. Probably the best athlete since LeBron, IMO.
Ya hes a better athlete than AD. I might even give him the edge over LeBron (again just on athleticism, not skill). The dude basically gets an As and A+ in almost every category athletically. He is truly a freak athlete.
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kuclas wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:ItsThatEasy wrote:
You realize Zion isn't the first undersized explosive big right? Even LeBron has trouble powering through KD and finishing straight up without fading away or using a floater.
He can bully KD into the paint all he wants, he's gonna have the same problem they all have and that's finishing over length. No matter how close Zion gets to the basketball if he cant explode over KD without a head start then he's simply not going to get a clean look over KD's length.
There's a reason most 6'7 290 lbs athletes play Defensive End and not basketball, they rarely have the skill set or length to be successful.
Now Zion is definitely skilled, I'm a fan of the kid, but to suggest you could just throw him the ball down low and watch him work is just not true at the moment.
Ya Zion is not going to be spending much time down low at Duke or in the NBA. Right now the dude is a slasher/cutter. I can tell you that he is not spending much time if any practicing down in the post on offense at Duke right now. He has been a force in practice when he can get any momentum behind him and his ball handling is coming along very well from what I have heard. Tossing the ball down to him in the post is automatically taking away his biggest strength right now and that is his first step and crazy explosion.
If he’s slashing open court. Scoring dunking etc. That’s all fine and dandy.
Until real nba defense schemes eliminate Zion’s advantages.
He needs to develop his game cause he’s at a height disadvantage moving up the nba ladder with taller and almost just as athletic and stronger players. His advantage will become much smaller.
Just look what Boston did to Ben Simmons another open court guy who can run the pace and space modern game. When the game slows down. Boston sags off Simmons. And Simmons is 3 inches taller.
What’s Zion gonna to do when nba teams cut off the transition game and he has to create on offense or force to shoot.
Im not expecting Zion to take over the league day 1 though. I think he can have a Simmons/(early)Giannis type of ability where even though he doesnt have a consistent jumper, his physical/athleticism is just too hard to stop. Now yes against the elite teams and teams that zone in on him, he will be able to be stopped, until he gets a jumper.
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Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:DBurks2818 wrote:
Yeah, probably the best athlete since Anthony Davis I'd think?
Better athlete than AD, who's a great athlete himself. Probably the best athlete since LeBron, IMO.
Ya hes a better athlete than AD. I might even give him the edge over LeBron (again just on athleticism, not skill). The dude basically gets an As and A+ in almost every category athletically. He is truly a freak athlete.
How do you balance his athleticism with his perceived average physical attributes in reach and wingspan?
AD is a great athlete with an amazing wingspan for example.
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D.Brasco wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:
Better athlete than AD, who's a great athlete himself. Probably the best athlete since LeBron, IMO.
Ya hes a better athlete than AD. I might even give him the edge over LeBron (again just on athleticism, not skill). The dude basically gets an As and A+ in almost every category athletically. He is truly a freak athlete.
How do you balance his athleticism with his perceived average physical attributes in reach and wingspan?
AD is a great athlete with an amazing wingspan for example.
Same you balance how Davis is taller than Zion yet can't jump as high.
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clyde21 wrote:D.Brasco wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:
Ya hes a better athlete than AD. I might even give him the edge over LeBron (again just on athleticism, not skill). The dude basically gets an As and A+ in almost every category athletically. He is truly a freak athlete.
How do you balance his athleticism with his perceived average physical attributes in reach and wingspan?
AD is a great athlete with an amazing wingspan for example.
Same you balance how Davis is taller than Zion yet can't jump as high.
I'm of the view that wingspan and reach play a bigger role in the game than leaping ability, especially for big men.
You have a very mediocre leaper like Boogie who excels with his great-wingspan and you have great leapers like an Andrew Wiggins that doesn't do much with his verticality.
Look at most of the guys we've had in the dunk contest the past few years and their verticals don't seem to translate much to on-court dominance.
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D.Brasco wrote:Duke4life831 wrote:clyde21 wrote:
Better athlete than AD, who's a great athlete himself. Probably the best athlete since LeBron, IMO.
Ya hes a better athlete than AD. I might even give him the edge over LeBron (again just on athleticism, not skill). The dude basically gets an As and A+ in almost every category athletically. He is truly a freak athlete.
How do you balance his athleticism with his perceived average physical attributes in reach and wingspan?
AD is a great athlete with an amazing wingspan for example.
His wingspan has been measured from 6'10 to 6'11. The guys I know at Duke always tell me they have his at 6'11. Either way, a 6'10 or 6'11 wingspan is not bad for a guy that is 6'6. Also another thing to factor in is how freaking big and strong he is. We are basically talking about a dude that is the same height and length as Michael Jordan, can jump like MJ but is also close to 70 pounds more than what MJ was. That is a freak among freaks athletically speaking.