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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#61 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:20 am

reanimator wrote:I made this post before his HS season:

reanimator wrote:Zion Williamson and Romeo Langford seem to be the two names I see most often outside of Bagley.


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Yup and this is my reply to you on Aug 3rd

"Zion has just started to blow up really. He has been pretty dominant as of late. But don't know how high his NBA ceiling is"

I stick by what I said. I still question his ceiling because of not knowing what position he's going to be. Zion really started to blow up in mid to late June which is when the top 100 camp happened and early august he kept that dominant play going during the Adidas circuit. And there is even a post on Aug 4th saying Zion was #1 on 247, which backs up what I said. Again he blew up because he dominated these elite camps, he just got even more popular with the casual fan because his dunks on Youtube against bad competition.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#62 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 4:30 am

bigboi wrote:Zion Williamson was getting no buzz until this season, why are you dudes lying? Otherwise, there would've been massive hype around him. Didn't realize he was a senior though


247 moved him to their #1 prospect in the 18 class back on August 4th. He had plenty of buzz before this season. Bamba, Ayton, Duval, Porter and the rest of those guys are Seniors. Zion, Bagley, Reddish and Langford are Juniors.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#63 » by Worm122 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:12 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
bigboi wrote:Zion Williamson was getting no buzz until this season, why are you dudes lying? Otherwise, there would've been massive hype around him. Didn't realize he was a senior though


247 moved him to their #1 prospect in the 18 class back on August 4th. He had plenty of buzz before this season. Bamba, Ayton, Duval, Porter and the rest of those guys are Seniors. Zion, Bagley, Reddish and Langford are Juniors.


Zionis gonna to be elected to 2018 or 2019 draft?
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#64 » by EricAnderson » Thu Feb 23, 2017 2:45 pm

I still think Bagley has a higher ceiling
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#65 » by Marcus » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:17 pm

Worm122 wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:
bigboi wrote:Zion Williamson was getting no buzz until this season, why are you dudes lying? Otherwise, there would've been massive hype around him. Didn't realize he was a senior though


247 moved him to their #1 prospect in the 18 class back on August 4th. He had plenty of buzz before this season. Bamba, Ayton, Duval, Porter and the rest of those guys are Seniors. Zion, Bagley, Reddish and Langford are Juniors.


Zionis gonna to be elected to 2018 or 2019 draft?


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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#66 » by Worm122 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:20 pm

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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#67 » by Duke4life831 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:23 pm

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Duke4life831 wrote:
247 moved him to their #1 prospect in the 18 class back on August 4th. He had plenty of buzz before this season. Bamba, Ayton, Duval, Porter and the rest of those guys are Seniors. Zion, Bagley, Reddish and Langford are Juniors.


Zionis gonna to be elected to 2018 or 2019 draft?


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Ya when I meant 18 class I meant recruitment class not draft class.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#68 » by Worm122 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:28 pm

Duke4life831 wrote:
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Worm122 wrote:
Zionis gonna to be elected to 2018 or 2019 draft?


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Ya when I meant 18 class I meant recruitment class not draft class.


kkkkkk thanks man, i got little confused because of your post kkk thanks for the explanation
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Post#69 » by sikma42 » Thu Feb 23, 2017 9:08 pm

DanTown8587 wrote:I can't be so old that people literally think this guy even comes close to comparing to LeBron as a prospect athletically.


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Post#70 » by NO-KG-AI » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:26 am

DanTown8587 wrote:I can't be so old that people literally think this guy even comes close to comparing to LeBron as a prospect athletically.


Come on man. We do this like every other year now. We've had like 10 "next LeBron" and LeBron level athletes since the 2003 draft. :lol:
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Post#71 » by ItsThatEasy » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:23 pm

He looks exactly like Schea Cotton as a HS prospect
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#72 » by TheSuzerain » Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:17 pm

In terms of athleticism, he's definitely not an exact LeBron clone as they have different body types as prospects.

But he is on LeBron's level athletically.

No clue why people are doubting this guy. It looks very obvious to me that he's a lights out NBA Prospect.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#73 » by jonjames » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:41 am

TheSuzerain wrote:In terms of athleticism, he's definitely not an exact LeBron clone as they have different body types as prospects.

But he is on LeBron's level athletically.

No clue why people are doubting this guy. It looks very obvious to me that he's a lights out NBA Prospect.


This..ppl are only saying it's not even close bc of hindsight after knowing what he became. LeBron was indeed special he had athleticism, court vision/passing and unique feel for the game. It's very rare to find guys in basketball to have all 3 let alone man of his size at 6'8. That being said, zion is a more explosive athlete than LeBron at least vertically. Guys built his size should not be able jump or move like that..he defies all stereptypes.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#74 » by Duke4life831 » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:21 am

jonjames wrote:
TheSuzerain wrote:In terms of athleticism, he's definitely not an exact LeBron clone as they have different body types as prospects.

But he is on LeBron's level athletically.

No clue why people are doubting this guy. It looks very obvious to me that he's a lights out NBA Prospect.


This..ppl are only saying it's not even close bc of hindsight after knowing what he became. LeBron was indeed special he had athleticism, court vision/passing and unique feel for the game. It's very rare to find guys in basketball to have all 3 let alone man of his size at 6'8. That being said, zion is a more explosive athlete than LeBron at least vertically. Guys built his size should not be able jump or move like that..he defies all stereptypes.


Yup no one is saying he is on Lebron's level as a prospect. Most people are just saying they havent seen a mix of this size and athleticism since Lebron, I cant think of anyone. Lebron was definitely faster in the open court, Zion is fast for his size but Lebron had freakish speed. Zion is thicker and stronger and I will even give him the edge vertically as well. Again hes 6'7 and gets his eyes to the rim with ease.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#75 » by Ruzious » Sat Feb 25, 2017 2:56 pm

Compare him to Stanley Johnson when Johnson was a senior at Mater Dei.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#76 » by TheBunk » Sat Feb 25, 2017 8:26 pm

Seriously. His athleticism is insane. Check how far away he leaps from in that vine, combined with how much room he still has once he gets to the basket. He's still above the rim.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#77 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Mar 3, 2017 2:45 pm

Ruzious wrote:Compare him to Stanley Johnson when Johnson was a senior at Mater Dei.


Athletically or overall game? Because I think there game is nothing alike.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#78 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Mar 3, 2017 2:59 pm

Just to get a comparison on his athleticism compared to 6'7-6'8 wings that we have seen come into the league the last couple years that were already very well built guys. So lets compare him with Stanley Johnson and Jaylen Brown. Both of these guys were already built like grown men in high school. Forgive the long post but im going to post a video for each of the 3 guys.





I think a few things stick out. Stanley clearly had the most offensive polish and skill at this level but he has always been more of a stiffer athlete, not nearly as fluid as the the other two. Jaylen not as skilled as Stanley but a more fluid athlete. Then you get to Zion, I think if you watch Stanley and Jaylen first then watch Zion the first thing that sticks out is Zion's speed, that dude really moves. I also think its obvious he has a next level of explosion compared to these guys. It doesnt matter if its one foot off a full sprint or off 2 feet with no momentum, he just explodes off the floor.

Again this is why he gets the Lebron talk. Its not the skill level because Zion isnt close to Lebron there. Zion is also not on the same level of athlete as Lebron was, but I dont think we have seen a mix of this size and athleticism since Lebron. I think its pretty clear in these videos that Zion is just on another level athletically and thats saying a lot especially when youre comparing him to a guy like Jaylen Brown.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#79 » by Ruzious » Fri Mar 3, 2017 3:13 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Compare him to Stanley Johnson when Johnson was a senior at Mater Dei.


Athletically or overall game? Because I think there game is nothing alike.

Who has a game when they're in HS that doesn't change significantly? I'm talking about their abilities and skills.
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Re: Zion Williamson 

Post#80 » by Duke4life831 » Fri Mar 3, 2017 3:17 pm

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Ruzious wrote:Compare him to Stanley Johnson when Johnson was a senior at Mater Dei.


Athletically or overall game? Because I think there game is nothing alike.

Who has a game when they're in HS that doesn't change significantly? I'm talking about their abilities and skills.


I think you can get a good feel on how someone plays the game when theyre in high school. I think Zion is the far superior athlete and higher basketball IQ than Stanley at that age and I think Stanley had the better offensive skill set.

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