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Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2017 3:55 am
by Cappy_Smurf
Ettorefm wrote:MalonesElbows wrote:The Jazz seem to really like Mitchell and he likes the organization. With the Jazz potentially losing some wings soon they could try and make a splash to move up and get him.
Donovan Mitchell is 6'2/6'3 and a guard. How is losing some wings relevant to their decision?
Ettorefm wrote:zzaj wrote:Ettorefm wrote:
Nope.
Yep.
SG's and SF's are the typical "wings" in that nomenclature.
Yes. Both, not just Shooting Guards.
I can only assume you are trying to say you think he is a point guard, which isn't correct IMO. He can guard either the 1 or 2 defensively, but offensively he is more of a shooting guard right now.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:42 pm
by Catchall
Offensively, Mitchell is similar to Eric Gordon. Defensively, he's similar to Avery Bradley. He could be really good. He's better playing off the ball than on the ball at this stage, but he can play next to Hill or Exum and defend either guard position.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:51 pm
by Catchall
GimmeDat wrote:He can play a bit of pseudo-PG if you're running him with a ball handling wing/forward, but he's quite distinctly a SG overall, though. I think people might be overdoing the PG aspect because they're worried about his size at the 2, but I don't think it's too much of an issue given his length.
I've mentioned the comparison before, but Eric Gordon. Gordon was 6'3 and a 6'9 wingspan, so very similar physically, and they're both plus athletes. Very similar posture/form on their jumpers as well (though Gordon doesn't jump as much), and they both have good handle/creation abilities for SG's.
yes. nailed it.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:53 pm
by Catchall
Jazz are ecstatic that they were able to nab Mitchell, btw.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 4:56 pm
by crazy_me_87
He really has played well so far in the Summer League. 20/3/3 with 4.4 steals per Game
In his 37 Points/ 8 Steals Game he looked really, really good. He is a great defender... can hit the Open Three and Mid Range Shot and he attacks the Rim.
He really looks like a poor mans Dwade out there so far. He propably will never be nearly as good but the combination of Raw Athletism with a Strong Body, Craftiness and playing hard on both ends really is simillar.
He seems to also be a bright hard working Kid... Could be a real Steal for the Jazz
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 9:44 pm
by Patsfan1081
GimmeDat wrote:I don't get the Marcus Smart comparisons - Mitchell is a much better shooter, more of an above the rim athlete, has more dynamic handles and shiftiness to get in to gaps, etc.
He, like most people, isn't as dogged defensively, and Smart's probably a better passer, but I like Mitchell's potential well beyond what Marcus Smart is atm.
Was Mitchell a much better shooter in college? Yeah his three point % was better their sophomore years but Smart had the better ts% both years at college and was a more efficient finisher at the rim. Mitchell hasn't been very effiecent this summer league(36% in Vegas and 43% in Utah), especially from the three point line. I'll admit though I have no clue how he'll be as a pro, he'll def be a good defender and slasher most likely but there's still questions with his shooting.
Re: RE: Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 2:06 am
by sipclip
Patsfan1081 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:I don't get the Marcus Smart comparisons - Mitchell is a much better shooter, more of an above the rim athlete, has more dynamic handles and shiftiness to get in to gaps, etc.
He, like most people, isn't as dogged defensively, and Smart's probably a better passer, but I like Mitchell's potential well beyond what Marcus Smart is atm.
Was Mitchell a much better shooter in college? Yeah his three point % was better their sophomore years but Smart had the better ts% both years at college and was a more efficient finisher at the rim. Mitchell hasn't been very effiecent this summer league(36% in Vegas and 43% in Utah), especially from the three point line. I'll admit though I have no clue how he'll be as a pro, he'll def be a good defender and slasher most likely but there's still questions with his shooting.
There aren't any questions with his shooting stroke. It is a thing of beauty. What hurts him is shot selection but I expect that to improve once the season gets going since he won't be the number 1 option.
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Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 2:34 am
by cksdayoff
if mitchell's handles improve, he is going to be a monster
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 5:48 am
by Catchall
Jazz staff are starting to compare Mitchell to Lillard and McCollum based on what they've seen in practices. Their expectations are becoming very high.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:19 pm
by EvanZ
Catchall wrote:Jazz staff are starting to compare Mitchell to Lillard and McCollum based on what they've seen in practices. Their expectations are becoming very high.
If he's anything like McCollum on offense, he's going to be a superstar, because his defense is looking elite.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 8:44 am
by PerkinsFor3
Gary Harris....
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:38 am
by crazy_me_87
EvanZ wrote:Catchall wrote:Jazz staff are starting to compare Mitchell to Lillard and McCollum based on what they've seen in practices. Their expectations are becoming very high.
If he's anything like McCollum on offense, he's going to be a superstar, because his defense is looking elite.
Thats true.. If he could ever develop into a Lillard or McCollum level of Scorer with his already elite looking defense... oh boy..
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:48 am
by Catchall
PerkinsFor3 wrote:Gary Harris....
Mitchell is more athletic, shifty and explosive than Harris. Very different player.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 12:57 am
by PerkinsFor3
Because Harris isnt explosive or athletic....
Main difference is Harris was a worse shooter but with better shot selection.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 7:42 am
by GimmeDat
I don't think Harris is on Mitchell's level of athleticism. That's not to say Harris is a bad athlete. I think Mitchell has more shiftiness and moves to his offensive game though, Harris is a bit more limited in that regard and more of an elite 3/D guy.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 11:35 am
by stitches
GimmeDat wrote:I don't think Harris is on Mitchell's level of athleticism. That's not to say Harris is a bad athlete. I think Mitchell has more shiftiness and moves to his offensive game though, Harris is a bit more limited in that regard and more of an elite 3/D guy.
Yeah... agree with that... with one small addition - Mitchell is extremely explosive from 2 feet, but nowhere near as explosive as Harris from 1 foot.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2017 3:55 pm
by EvanZ
Why are people talking about Gary Harris? Dude is ranked #85 in DRPM just among shooting guards. He's an awful defender.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Aug 2, 2017 5:08 am
by baldur
is he going to start this season?
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Wed Aug 2, 2017 6:01 pm
by Catchall
baldur wrote:is he going to start this season?
He's not expected to start. Rubio and Hood are expected to be the starting backcourt. Mitchell and Exum are expected to come off the bench and be given a long leash to play fast and attack. If Mitchell progresses quickly though, the Jazz could make a roster move and start him towards the end of the season. Exum, Hood and Favors all need new contracts for next season, and likely one of them will be moved.
Re: Donovan Mitchell - where's the hype?
Posted: Sat Aug 5, 2017 12:51 am
by cksdayoff
only thing holding mitchell back right now are his handles