Harry Giles

nurseryc · Post #21 » by **nurseryc** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 12:58 pm

Finally injury free and absolutely dominating in the tiny minutes coach K plays him, how high could Giles go in the up and coming draft if he declares?

jonjames · Post #22 » by **jonjames** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:03 pm

His injury basically robbed him of millions..he would have been top 3 pick for sure. Nevertheless scouts will still be intrigued by his talent and skill at his size. If teams gamble I think he will go top 10. If teams are weary I can seem falling into the teens like 17 18 19.

nurseryc · Post #23 » by **nurseryc** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:05 pm

jonjames wrote:His injury basically robbed him of millions..he would have been top 3 pick for sure. Nevertheless scouts will still be intrigued by his talent and skill at his size. If teams gamble I think he will go top 10. If teams are weary I can seem falling into the teens like 17 18 19.

If he hadn't of got injured, he was the consensus number 1 pick by a mile, bar no one

MotownMadness · Post #24 » by **MotownMadness** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 1:22 pm

I wouldn't touch him. He still looks like he's moving at 50% out there to me and feel like the knee would go out again if he were to really push it.

Jacobkowal · Post #25 » by **Jacobkowal** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 3:05 pm

Could see Portland taking him with one of their first round picks. They are in need of a powerforward and have three picks in the first round, so they are in a situation, where they can take a risk on Giles.

Chuck Everett · Post #26 » by **Chuck Everett** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:08 pm

Honestly, see him falling to the Nets picks. Personally, I would let him fall to the second round and then pick him. He doesn't look like the same player anymore which is a shame.

Cammo101 · Post #27 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:16 pm

Yeah, I don't see it. He isn't the same player he was in high school. The injuries have killed him. He is just another guy out there now. My hope is he returns to school and hopefully returns to form. If he comes out this year, maybe someone takes a shot on him in the late teens...maybe. There is a glut of quality bigs in the backhalf of the first round, I'm not sure I'd take Giles over any of them at this point.

TheSuzerain · Post #28 » by **TheSuzerain** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:18 pm

nurseryc wrote:
jonjames wrote:His injury basically robbed him of millions..he would have been top 3 pick for sure. Nevertheless scouts will still be intrigued by his talent and skill at his size. If teams gamble I think he will go top 10. If teams are weary I can seem falling into the teens like 17 18 19.

If he hadn't of got injured, he was the consensus number 1 pick by a mile, bar no one

No he wasn't

pantalones · Post #29 » by **pantalones** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:19 pm

nurseryc wrote:Finally injury free and absolutely dominating in the tiny minutes coach K plays him, how high could Giles go in the up and coming draft if he declares?

Define "dominating". I'm sorry, but I will never get threads such as these. It's as if the hype for him coming out of high school was so great that you've decided to literally ignore his performance, or lack thereof on the actual court. Any gm that drafts him in the 1st round is a fool.

Post #30 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:48 pm

Ya no way would I spend a 1st round on him. I watched every second he played and was hoping so much that he would slowly start looking like his old self but that never happened. He started moving better towards the end of the year but showed 0 skill. He was very inconsistent, I wanted him to play more because he was Duke's best rebounder and we really struggled to rebound but he couldn't string together 2 games of just okay solid play. If you took away the hype he wouldn't even be talked about getting drafted.

WalterBenjamin · Post #31 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:02 pm

With injury history better for him to declare. He needs to be in an profesional environment if he has hope to succede.

Mr.Raptorsingh · Post #32 » by **Mr.Raptorsingh** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:04 pm

Yeah, Giles needs to be around NBA training staffs and facilities. He'll probably get drafted late 1st/into the 2nd rd.

WalterBenjamin · Post #33 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 5:13 pm

This is also a reason why I am against any age restrictions in the draft. Nothing indicates to me that NBA teams are not the best place to develop players and nurture them if needed. The more early you go to the NBA the better chanches are you will succeed.

twosevenstreet · Post #34 » by **twosevenstreet** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:01 pm

Shame that he never really got back to his #1 status form, I really do think the Nets will take a chance on him if their team doctor gives his blessing. At this point the nets need to take some shots in the dark and hope they pan out.

Post #35 » by **AshyLarrysDiaper** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:28 pm

It's clear he needs to come out if he's reasonably assured he'll go in the 1st round.

But if you're Giles, would you declare if you were on the 1st/2nd round bubble?

Cammo101 · Post #36 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 6:55 pm

AshyLarrysDiaper wrote:It's clear he needs to come out if he's reasonably assured he'll go in the 1st round.

But if you're Giles, would you declare if you were on the 1st/2nd round bubble?

I'd be tough. He'd probably want a promise.

WalterBenjamin · Post #37 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:05 pm

Well if his condition is ok he will have a promise. If he ain't ok then he also risks another injury and his whole career. Rabb is the proof that if u have any kind of body of work and are a lottery or near lottery pick you should declare.

Cammo101 · Post #38 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:09 pm

WalterBenjamin wrote:Well if his condition is ok he will have a promise. If he ain't ok then he also risks another injury and his whole career. Rabb is the proof that if u have any kind of body of work and are a lottery or near lottery pick you should declare.

Rabb averaged 12.5 and 8.6 as a Freshman. Giles is averaging under 4 points and rebounds a game. Rabb had a body of work and should have declared, Giles does not.

WalterBenjamin · Post #39 » by **WalterBenjamin** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:42 pm

Cammo101 wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Well if his condition is ok he will have a promise. If he ain't ok then he also risks another injury and his whole career. Rabb is the proof that if u have any kind of body of work and are a lottery or near lottery pick you should declare.

Rabb averaged 12.5 and 8.6 as a Freshman. Giles is averaging under 4 points and rebounds a game. Rabb had a body of work and should have declared, Giles does not.

The whole point was u should go to the NBA regardless of everything. If the rules would have allowed it Giles would now be on an NBA payroll.

Cammo101 · Post #40 » by **Cammo101** » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:49 pm

WalterBenjamin wrote:
Cammo101 wrote:
WalterBenjamin wrote:Well if his condition is ok he will have a promise. If he ain't ok then he also risks another injury and his whole career. Rabb is the proof that if u have any kind of body of work and are a lottery or near lottery pick you should declare.

Rabb averaged 12.5 and 8.6 as a Freshman. Giles is averaging under 4 points and rebounds a game. Rabb had a body of work and should have declared, Giles does not.

The whole point was u should go to the NBA regardless of everything. If the rules would have allowed it Giles would now be on an NBA payroll.

And if he falls to the second round and doesn't look any better next year, he will get paid for exactly one year before he is shipped off to the D-League or Europe. Tell Lenny Cooke that you should always declare regardless of anything.