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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#41 » by Hoopz Afrik » Mon Apr 16, 2018 12:05 pm

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SC923 wrote:He lacks explosiveness and athleticism, just doesnt fit in the modern Nba


He can shoot, play off the ball, solid defender as well....seems like a solid fit the modern day NBA if you ask me.

If athletic marvels like TJ McConnell, Fred VanVleet, and Quinn Cook can make it in the NBA then I don't see why Jalen Brunson can't.

None of those guys got drafted. The had no expectation other than 10-12 MPG. VanFleet has been a gem but I've seen players do well for the Raptors and go elsewhere and flop. It's like the Miami Heat. They get the most out of some prospects that no one else can.


They didn't get drafted yet are rotational guys for good playoff teams with realistic expectation. That's more of an indictment on the talent evaluators than the players don't you think.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#42 » by jonjames » Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:31 pm

If you are not super athletic jitterbug type or tall/lanky pg then you gotta be super skilled and crafty..and brunson is definitely the latter. He could carve out a nice career ala andre miller.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#43 » by Klomp » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:04 am

Reminds me a lot of Tyus Jones
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#44 » by Upperclass » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:13 am

TJ McConnell landed on a point-guardless 76ers team and took advantage of an opportunity. He's an incredibly good shooter inside the 3point line(check his percentages), pesky defender, not ball-dominant, but can run a team like few other backups can(similar to an ish smith).

Van Vleet is just a helluva shooter and probably projects close to what Brunson could provide.. But he is also a very good defensive player.

Quinn Cook is a bit of fluke and took advantage of some injuries.. but he isnt an NBA player.


Andre Miller is one of the best NBA point guard of all time and had an incredibly long wingspan. Brunson is a really poor mans version most likely and wont measure near Miller.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#45 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Tue Apr 17, 2018 4:57 am

King Ken wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:
SC923 wrote:He lacks explosiveness and athleticism, just doesnt fit in the modern Nba


He can shoot, play off the ball, solid defender as well....seems like a solid fit the modern day NBA if you ask me.

If athletic marvels like TJ McConnell, Fred VanVleet, and Quinn Cook can make it in the NBA then I don't see why Jalen Brunson can't.

None of those guys got drafted. The had no expectation other than 10-12 MPG. VanFleet has been a gem but I've seen players do well for the Raptors and go elsewhere and flop. It's like the Miami Heat. They get the most out of some prospects that no one else can.


i mean name 2 guys who play well for the raptors and go elsewhere and flop.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#46 » by EvanZ » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:01 am

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Quinn Cook is a bit of fluke and took advantage of some injuries.. but he isnt an NBA player.



Guranteed contract would indicate otherwise.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#47 » by bucknut » Tue Apr 17, 2018 6:48 am

Damon Stoudamire with a Mark Jackson backdown game.

kid will be a stud. polished nba savvy game. stood out more than bridges.

I don't even see him being a bad athlete. He's just not a westbrook freak. I don't even think Chris Paul is that much more of an athlete than this guy. Jarret Jack, George Hill, earl watson, Deron Williams, andre miller etc these guys aren't athletes
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#48 » by nolang1 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 7:13 am

bucknut wrote:Damon Stoudamire with a Mark Jackson backdown game.

kid will be a stud. polished nba savvy game. stood out more than bridges.

I don't even see him being a bad athlete. He's just not a westbrook freak. I don't even think Chris Paul is that much more of an athlete than this guy.




If he were nearly as athletic as Chris Paul he'd have been a top-5 pick 2 years ago; Brunson's probably got 4 inches on CP3,
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#49 » by King Ken » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:17 pm

GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
King Ken wrote:
LeBron_da_Don wrote:
He can shoot, play off the ball, solid defender as well....seems like a solid fit the modern day NBA if you ask me.

If athletic marvels like TJ McConnell, Fred VanVleet, and Quinn Cook can make it in the NBA then I don't see why Jalen Brunson can't.

None of those guys got drafted. The had no expectation other than 10-12 MPG. VanFleet has been a gem but I've seen players do well for the Raptors and go elsewhere and flop. It's like the Miami Heat. They get the most out of some prospects that no one else can.


i mean name 2 guys who play well for the raptors and go elsewhere and flop.

Vasquez
Patterson
Hansbrough
Amir Johnson

That's just off the 14-15 roster.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#50 » by Hoopz Afrik » Wed Apr 18, 2018 12:23 pm

King Ken wrote:
GreatWhiteStiff wrote:
King Ken wrote:None of those guys got drafted. The had no expectation other than 10-12 MPG. VanFleet has been a gem but I've seen players do well for the Raptors and go elsewhere and flop. It's like the Miami Heat. They get the most out of some prospects that no one else can.


i mean name 2 guys who play well for the raptors and go elsewhere and flop.

Vasquez
Patterson
Hansbrough
Amir Johnson

That's just off the 14-15 roster.


Greivis - agreed, pretty straight forward
Patterson - agreed, that knee surgery didn't do him any favors either
Hansbrough - disagree, he flopped with yall and never recovered
Amir Johnson - disagree, he's given Boston and even Philly the same things he gave the Raps just less volume
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#51 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sun Apr 22, 2018 11:10 pm

Upperclass wrote:undrafted or super late 2nd round.. he's not an nba player and has zero in common with thomas


Considering IIRC isaiah thomas practicly went undrafted...well that's something they have in common with one another.

Maybe not Pistons Isiah Thomas.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#52 » by DryPaint » Tue Apr 24, 2018 7:09 am

jalen brunson can get to a solid nba backup point role. but i see his dad being the better nba prospect at that time with those 4 inches in length with the same quickess & speed. jalen got the prominent role, is a known thing coming out of college, but if his dad was on the same prep/ recruiting level back then he is a better prospect. meaning the end of first round is where he belongs.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#53 » by SelfishPlayer » Tue Apr 24, 2018 4:33 pm

I see him being a first round pick for all of the same reasons Mateen Cleaves was a first round pick combined with the success Kyle Lowry and VanFleet have had in the NBA who he compares to very well.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#54 » by Kurosawa0 » Wed Apr 25, 2018 6:40 am

I think he'll have a long career, but Brunson's probably your third guard. That not necessarily a bad thing though. Many of the teams in the playoffs right now could use a steady back up point guard.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#55 » by jonjames » Fri Apr 27, 2018 2:15 pm

SelfishPlayer wrote:I see him being a first round pick for all of the same reasons Mateen Cleaves was a first round pick combined with the success Kyle Lowry and VanFleet have had in the NBA who he compares to very well.



Kyle lowry was a very different prospect than brunson coming out of villanova. Brunson is less athletic and a better shooter. Lowry was a straight bulldog coming out of villanova. He wasnt the refined player he is today but man he was a joy to watch guarding his man snatching rebounds from bigs and getting into paint with ease and finishing with contact over much taller players.
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Re: Jalen Brunson 

Post#56 » by SelfishPlayer » Fri Apr 27, 2018 3:38 pm

jonjames wrote:
SelfishPlayer wrote:I see him being a first round pick for all of the same reasons Mateen Cleaves was a first round pick combined with the success Kyle Lowry and VanFleet have had in the NBA who he compares to very well.



Kyle lowry was a very different prospect than brunson coming out of villanova. Brunson is less athletic and a better shooter. Lowry was a straight bulldog coming out of villanova. He wasnt the refined player he is today but man he was a joy to watch guarding his man snatching rebounds from bigs and getting into paint with ease and finishing with contact over much taller players.



As prospects they aren't much alike but he does compare favorably to the Raptors version of Lowry. Both are highly skilled strong little guards although Lowry has grown a tad bit soft over the years.

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