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Jalen Brunson

Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 10:12 pm
by BRIGGS
Radically undervalued.
Many same characteristics as Isiaih Thomas
6-2 200 strong complete ball control body control high IQ shifty knows every angle powerful and lefty Excellent court vision plays at his pace. Pesky smart defender very decent bounder doenst turn it over much.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:31 am
by Upperclass
undrafted or super late 2nd round.. he's not an nba player and has zero in common with thomas

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 12:41 pm
by SC923
He lacks explosiveness and athleticism, just doesnt fit in the modern Nba

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 2:17 pm
by reanimator
He can be a Derrick Fisher type guard if he puts in effort defensively

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 7:58 pm
by jonjames
He won't get drafted bc of the aforementioned reasons above but if TJ McConnell can start for an nba team there's no reason he can't play spot minutes off the bench.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:24 pm
by The_Hater
Brunson doesn't play a single NBA game imo. Lacking in quite a few important areas.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Wed Apr 26, 2017 8:46 pm
by doordoor123
The_Hater wrote:Brunson doesn't play a single NBA game imo. Lacking in quite a few important areas.


He's returning to college

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon May 1, 2017 6:51 pm
by jsa
Some goods pro's, even at PG, are not super atheletic. His father wasn't, played more than 10 years. Fisher, Andre Miller, Henry Bibby.

He has a chance with another good year, but he is a decided underdog.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:03 am
by Cosmic_Backlash
Kid this year is averaging 19/5/3 and putting up a blistering 70% true shooting percentage.

Hard to imagine he's not getting looked at seriously for at least a 2nd round pick anymore. I think he'll go in picks 31-40 this year if he comes out.

Anyone else think he's still under rated? I think he'll make a solid NBA backup.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 11:06 am
by Kolkmania
Cosmic_Backlash wrote:Kid this year is averaging 19/5/3 and putting up a blistering 70% true shooting percentage.

Hard to imagine he's not getting looked at seriously for at least a 2nd round pick anymore. I think he'll go in picks 31-40 this year if he comes out.

Anyone else think he's still under rated? I think he'll make a solid NBA backup.


I'm really high on him, not extremely flashy and doesn't have elite length or massive hops, but just so, so solid. He's built like a truck, he's a really good shooter off the dribble and his playmaking abilities have improved every year.

Confident that he can be a solid backup PG and if his elite shooting translates why couldn't he have a ceiling as a Lowry-esque player on the offensive end?

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:01 pm
by clyde21
BRIGGS wrote:Radically undervalued.
Many same characteristics as Isiaih Thomas
6-2 200 strong complete ball control body control high IQ shifty knows every angle powerful and lefty Excellent court vision plays at his pace. Pesky smart defender very decent bounder doenst turn it over much.


None of those characteristics make him sound like Thomas.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 5:16 pm
by doordoor123
Kolkmania wrote:
Cosmic_Backlash wrote:Kid this year is averaging 19/5/3 and putting up a blistering 70% true shooting percentage.

Hard to imagine he's not getting looked at seriously for at least a 2nd round pick anymore. I think he'll go in picks 31-40 this year if he comes out.

Anyone else think he's still under rated? I think he'll make a solid NBA backup.


I'm really high on him, not extremely flashy and doesn't have elite length or massive hops, but just so, so solid. He's built like a truck, he's a really good shooter off the dribble and his playmaking abilities have improved every year.

Confident that he can be a solid backup PG and if his elite shooting translates why couldn't he have a ceiling as a Lowry-esque player on the offensive end?


Because Lowry is much quicker and creates a lot more separation with the ball in his hands.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:03 pm
by Ruzious
He's actually become a better athlete than given credit for - particularly the ability to explode toward the rim and finish. I think he's an early 2nd rounder with a chance to go late first - especially in this draft which runs out of steam after 20, imo.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:09 pm
by Kolkmania
doordoor123 wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
Cosmic_Backlash wrote:Kid this year is averaging 19/5/3 and putting up a blistering 70% true shooting percentage.

Hard to imagine he's not getting looked at seriously for at least a 2nd round pick anymore. I think he'll go in picks 31-40 this year if he comes out.

Anyone else think he's still under rated? I think he'll make a solid NBA backup.


I'm really high on him, not extremely flashy and doesn't have elite length or massive hops, but just so, so solid. He's built like a truck, he's a really good shooter off the dribble and his playmaking abilities have improved every year.

Confident that he can be a solid backup PG and if his elite shooting translates why couldn't he have a ceiling as a Lowry-esque player on the offensive end?


Because Lowry is much quicker and creates a lot more separation with the ball in his hands.


Well obviously he's not a clone, but I'm not sure if Kyle Lowry was much quicker than Jalen Brunson in college. However, I get what you're saying, but I feel that Brunson doesn't run full speed 90% of the time because there's no need to and that causes an optical illusion that he's slow.
When you watch Chris Paul at his current age you don't see a guy running full speed as well, it's about shiftiness and understanding where to go. TJ McConnell wasn't the quickest guy at Arizona either but he's an excellent point guard in the NBA as well.


Watch on YouTube


Watch on YouTube


I agree that this is a question mark, but with NBA conditioning and better body control he might improve his first step. The Lowry-esque outcome is obviously a ceiling and not a median, otherwise he would be near the top guys in this draft.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Mon Jan 22, 2018 6:23 pm
by doordoor123
Kolkmania wrote:
doordoor123 wrote:
Kolkmania wrote:
I'm really high on him, not extremely flashy and doesn't have elite length or massive hops, but just so, so solid. He's built like a truck, he's a really good shooter off the dribble and his playmaking abilities have improved every year.

Confident that he can be a solid backup PG and if his elite shooting translates why couldn't he have a ceiling as a Lowry-esque player on the offensive end?


Because Lowry is much quicker and creates a lot more separation with the ball in his hands.


Well obviously he's not a clone, but I'm not sure if Kyle Lowry was much quicker than Jalen Brunson in college. However, I get what you're saying, but I feel that Brunson doesn't run full speed 90% of the time because there's no need to and that causes an optical illusion that he's slow.
When you watch Chris Paul at his current age you don't see a guy running full speed as well, it's about shiftiness and understanding where to go. TJ McConnell wasn't the quickest guy at Arizona either but he's an excellent point guard in the NBA as well.




I agree that this is a question mark, but with NBA conditioning and better body control he might improve his first step. The Lowry-esque outcome is obviously a ceiling and not a median, otherwise he would be near the top guys in this draft.


Lowry isn’t even his ceiling at all. Lowry is really quick and even in the videos you’ve provided Lowry is much quicker. And even TJ McConnell was quicker than Brunson, Chris Paul too. Brunson just doesn’t have a second gear. He’s not quick enough and not crafty enough as a handler. Don’t get me wrong, he has a role as a shooter who can pass and control the ball, but beyond that he won’t be able to do as much in the NBA. You know who had the same kind of speed as him in college? D’Angelo Russell, Russell was bigger and more skilled. And now even Russell has a hard time getting into the paint.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 4:13 am
by Cosmic_Backlash
I think he's a suitable NBA athlete. As a Magic fan, He kinda reminds me of Jameer Nelson. Doesn't do anything terribly flashy, but is shifty and an above average shooter. I could see his peak years being similar to peak Jameer - not really good enough to be an all-star (although Jameer snuck 1 in), but absolutely good enough to be a suitable starter/really good backup on a playoff caliber team.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:20 am
by Kolkmania
doordoor123 wrote:Lowry isn’t even his ceiling at all. Lowry is really quick and even in the videos you’ve provided Lowry is much quicker. And even TJ McConnell was quicker than Brunson, Chris Paul too. Brunson just doesn’t have a second gear. He’s not quick enough and not crafty enough as a handler. Don’t get me wrong, he has a role as a shooter who can pass and control the ball, but beyond that he won’t be able to do as much in the NBA. You know who had the same kind of speed as him in college? D’Angelo Russell, Russell was bigger and more skilled. And now even Russell has a hard time getting into the paint.


Fair enough, I'm not giving up on him yet. A lot can be done with handles, body fakes and there's a chance he gets quicker with NBA training programs. His ability to shoot off the dribble (if it translates) will keep defenses honest and makes it easier to get by defenders, something which wasn't the case for Russell who's been really bad in pull up jumpers in the NBA (I know he was very good at Ohio State, that's why I mentioned the "if it translates").

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 8:44 pm
by ItsThatEasy
Cosmic_Backlash wrote:I think he's a suitable NBA athlete. As a Magic fan, He kinda reminds me of Jameer Nelson. Doesn't do anything terribly flashy, but is shifty and an above average shooter. I could see his peak years being similar to peak Jameer - not really good enough to be an all-star (although Jameer snuck 1 in), but absolutely good enough to be a suitable starter/really good backup on a playoff caliber team.


Jameer was far more athletic than Jalen.

Flash and playing style has nothing to do with actual functional athleticism. Jalen isn't an NBA athlete, unfortunate truth.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Tue Jan 23, 2018 9:02 pm
by Ruzious
Still, it's the inability to finish at the rim that stops a lot of very good college PG's from making it in the NBA, and Brunson's going to be a good finisher in the NBA - due to his strength, aggression, decisiveness, and better explosion to the hoop than given credit for.

Re: Jalen Brunson

Posted: Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:19 am
by Wizop
Brogdon is my comparison.

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