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Post#3081 » by Ambrose » Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:38 pm

Is Jeremiah Martin draftable? He's a talented kid who seems to be really impactful on both ends of the floor. He's probably an undersized two though.
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Post#3082 » by big-shot-ROB » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:14 pm

I, for once, thank god this years wing class is not your typical "got the freakish athleticism -> potential" class a la Wiggins, Jackson, Brown, S.Johnson, ..
Robert Horry is better than MJ, because everybody knows that 7>6.
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Post#3083 » by Stillwater » Sat Mar 16, 2019 10:32 pm

Grimes tournament play is going to get him back into mid first conversations
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Post#3084 » by doordoor123 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:06 pm

Stillwater wrote:Grimes tournament play is going to get him back into mid first conversations


I wasn’t aware he was ever in first round conversations
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Post#3085 » by doordoor123 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:07 pm

clyde21 wrote:Admiral is hard to project to the NBA but I can't help but think he's gonna find a way to contribute at the next level...he's toolsy and his shot is real.


Not really, he’s pretty easy to project. Good 3 and D player.
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Post#3086 » by doordoor123 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:09 pm

Roddy B for 3 wrote:
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Where's De'Andre Hunter?


I need to do more research into him too.


I think Hunter will end up being 13-20 on my big board. To me he looks more impressive than Tony Snell and less impressive than Otto Porter Jr. Who should have been drafted 7(ish) and 20(ish) in their respective drafts.


Lol less impressive than Porter? That’s funny. Hunter is a top 5 pick.
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Post#3087 » by Stillwater » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:14 pm

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Stillwater wrote:Grimes tournament play is going to get him back into mid first conversations


I wasn’t aware he was ever in first round conversations

He was a projected lottery pick before the poor season he has had...so going mid first wouldn't be impossible despite not earning that level of attn at Kansas. He is a project and should return for another year, but declaring after a solid tournament would change that.
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Post#3088 » by doordoor123 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:48 pm

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Stillwater wrote:Grimes tournament play is going to get him back into mid first conversations


I wasn’t aware he was ever in first round conversations

He was a projected lottery pick before the poor season he has had...so going mid first wouldn't be impossible despite not earning that level of attn at Kansas. He is a project and should return for another year, but declaring after a solid tournament would change that.


Seems like whoever projected him so high doesn’t have good eyes. He’s slow, not athletic, really inconsistent and commits a lot of fouls.
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Post#3089 » by clyde21 » Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:58 pm

Grimes is an uber talent if/when he finds that discipline and consistency
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Post#3090 » by Stillwater » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:13 am

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I wasn’t aware he was ever in first round conversations

He was a projected lottery pick before the poor season he has had...so going mid first wouldn't be impossible despite not earning that level of attn at Kansas. He is a project and should return for another year, but declaring after a solid tournament would change that.


Seems like whoever projected him so high doesn’t have good eyes. He’s slow, not athletic, really inconsistent and commits a lot of fouls.

Yeah I might be inclined to take back that mid first estimation as he's been more disappointing than Reddish this season , but the way Kansas has been a mess with injuries and just failed miserably against Iowa state he probably won't get a chance to improve his stock much in the big dance as they will probably be an early out, but there is no question he has some decent upside & was doing better of late until today. He is a better athlete than you are giving him credit for. The raw off ball skillset that hasn't translated very well should force him back to College for another year. Maybe he should work on his handles and move back to the 1.
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Post#3091 » by doordoor123 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 12:45 am

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Stillwater wrote:He was a projected lottery pick before the poor season he has had...so going mid first wouldn't be impossible despite not earning that level of attn at Kansas. He is a project and should return for another year, but declaring after a solid tournament would change that.


Seems like whoever projected him so high doesn’t have good eyes. He’s slow, not athletic, really inconsistent and commits a lot of fouls.

Yeah I might be inclined to take back that mid first estimation as he's been more disappointing than Reddish this season , but the way Kansas has been a mess with injuries and just failed miserably against Iowa state he probably won't get a chance to improve his stock much in the big dance as they will probably be an early out, but there is no question he has some decent upside & was doing better of late until today. He is a better athlete than you are giving him credit for. The raw off ball skillset that hasn't translated very well should force him back to College for another year. Maybe he should work on his handles and move back to the 1.


I’ve seen a good amount of Kansas this year and I’ve never thought he was interesting as a prospect at all. Personally there are about 25 guys I would take before him. He might be a better athlete than I’m giving him credit for, but in all the times I’ve seen him I don’t see an NBA athlete.
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Post#3092 » by Stillwater » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:28 am

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doordoor123 wrote:
Seems like whoever projected him so high doesn’t have good eyes. He’s slow, not athletic, really inconsistent and commits a lot of fouls.

Yeah I might be inclined to take back that mid first estimation as he's been more disappointing than Reddish this season , but the way Kansas has been a mess with injuries and just failed miserably against Iowa state he probably won't get a chance to improve his stock much in the big dance as they will probably be an early out, but there is no question he has some decent upside & was doing better of late until today. He is a better athlete than you are giving him credit for. The raw off ball skillset that hasn't translated very well should force him back to College for another year. Maybe he should work on his handles and move back to the 1.


I’ve seen a good amount of Kansas this year and I’ve never thought he was interesting as a prospect at all. Personally there are about 25 guys I would take before him. He might be a better athlete than I’m giving him credit for, but in all the times I’ve seen him I don’t see an NBA athlete.
Yeah SLOWMO Anderson doesn't either,but he's effective. not being fast isn't the most debilitating thing if he can get it together.
There are 35 players I would take ahead of him if I didn't want a high upside project etc.
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Post#3093 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:29 am

Ya I don't see how you can take Cam as a 1st rounder. He is truly playing awful basketball.
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Post#3094 » by Stillwater » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:32 am

Duke4life831 wrote:Ya I don't see how you can take Cam as a 1st rounder. He is truly playing awful basketball.

it's no surprise I'm dissapointed in him,as I was really hoping he was legit given the Cavs lottery status,if they pick him in the high lottery I hope they plan on tanking again next year
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Post#3095 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:42 am

Stillwater wrote:
Duke4life831 wrote:Ya I don't see how you can take Cam as a 1st rounder. He is truly playing awful basketball.

it's no surprise I'm dissapointed in him,as I was really hoping he was legit given the Cavs lottery status,if they pick him in the high lottery I hope they plan on tanking again next year


Ya I can't even begin to try to imagine Cam trying to dribble against NBA players. If I was a team that drafted Cam, I wouldn't even plan on him seeing the NBA court for at least a year. Have him work on his game and confidence in the G League for a year.

Cam is the kind of guy that I can see getting so down on himself after a really rough year, and never really recovering from it.
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Post#3096 » by clyde21 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:47 am

if Tre ever finds his jumper he's gonna be special.
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Post#3097 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:50 am

If only Zion didn't lack skill.......

What a freaking pass. I wonder if people realize there is more than one skill than shooting. How about grabbing a board, pushing it then making one hell of a 3/4 court bounce pass on a dime. Does that not require skill?
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Post#3098 » by doordoor123 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:51 am

Stillwater wrote:
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Stillwater wrote:Yeah I might be inclined to take back that mid first estimation as he's been more disappointing than Reddish this season , but the way Kansas has been a mess with injuries and just failed miserably against Iowa state he probably won't get a chance to improve his stock much in the big dance as they will probably be an early out, but there is no question he has some decent upside & was doing better of late until today. He is a better athlete than you are giving him credit for. The raw off ball skillset that hasn't translated very well should force him back to College for another year. Maybe he should work on his handles and move back to the 1.


I’ve seen a good amount of Kansas this year and I’ve never thought he was interesting as a prospect at all. Personally there are about 25 guys I would take before him. He might be a better athlete than I’m giving him credit for, but in all the times I’ve seen him I don’t see an NBA athlete.
Yeah SLOWMO Anderson doesn't either,but he's effective. not being fast isn't the most debilitating thing if he can get it together.
There are 35 players I would take ahead of him if I didn't want a high upside project etc.


Kyle Anderson is also one of the best passers in the NBA at his position and he’s super long. If he had shorter arms and was smaller and if he was a 6’4/6’5 guard, he wouldn’t be in the NBA. He’s 6’9 with a long wingspan and abnormal passing ability. And to be honest I don’t see Anderson being in the NBA for a long time.
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Post#3099 » by awkwardlycool » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:51 am

Duke4life831 wrote:If only Zion didn't lack skill.......

What a freaking pass. I wonder if people realize there is more than one skill than shooting. How about grabbing a board, pushing it then making one hell of a 3/4 court bounce pass on a dime. Does that not require skill?
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Post#3100 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Mar 17, 2019 1:51 am

clyde21 wrote:if Tre ever finds his jumper he's gonna be special.


He would have everything you would want from a PG to pair with stud offensive players.

Just don't know if that shooting is ever going to come. He has a long long ways to go.

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