2019 Draft Class

[Illmatic12]

i guess depends on your definition/standard of 'upper tier NBA athlete'...but I don't think Oubre and Winston necessarily qualify. good athletes? sure. top tier? nah.

and again, you keep throwing words like 'top tier' and 'standout' without clearly defining them...guys like RJ and Nas and Cam are all legit NBA level athletes, and I categorically disagree that this class doesn't have 'athletic wings'.

I don’t see a lot of forwards who will be able to switch onto quick guards. I’m not seeing many wings who can elevate and finish above the rim.

There are guys with “plus” athleticism but not game-changing athleticism. Like there is a reason why so many are not excited by this class , don’t think I’m saying anything controversial here.

how the hell does Oubre have 'game changing' athleticism?

Oubre Jr has a 7'2 wingspan and ranks near the top of the NBA in deflections per game. He has catlike reflexes and can stay in front of quick guards like IT and Kemba Walker (his mental focus on D comes and goes, but that's a different discussion) . It's a directly translatable athletic talent, and I struggle to find wing prospects in this class with these qualities. Nas Little.. maybe?? Ehh

If Culver had this kind of footspeed/quickness wouldn't we be talking about him as the surefire #2 pick?

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Oubre Jr has a 7'2 wingspan and ranks near the top of the NBA in deflections per game. He has catlike reflexes and can stay in front of quick guards like IT and Kemba Walker (his mental focus on D comes and goes, but that's a different discussion) . It's a directly translatable athletic talent, and I struggle to find wing prospects in this class with these qualities. Nas Little.. maybe?? Ehh

If Culver had this kind of footspeed/quickness wouldn't we be talking about him as the surefire #2 pick?

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I'm not sure that footspeed is the word I would use. For example, look at the first steal in the video. He finishes the breakaway, but both defenders have caught up with him enough to impact the play (he shield and finishes anyway) - it's not fast feet that gets him steals, it's fast hands and long arms...

[Stillwater]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

[King Ken]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

BBIQ wise, these two have a significant gap.

[Stillwater]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

BBIQ wise, these two have a significant gap.

Yeah thats what I said...

[King Ken]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

BBIQ wise, these two have a significant gap.

Yeah thats what I said...

I agreed with you.

[Stillwater]

I am starting to think some people are sleeping on Culver at this point, I mean he remains one of the top prospects in this draft and despite his obvious lack of star 1st option upside could actually be good enough to get the nod once or twice in his career if he can get to his spots and make his ft.

[clyde21]

i still see nothing in those vids that shows me Oubre is a 'game-changing' athlete. Not sure what you're watching there.

[doordoor123]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

[King Ken]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

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[RipCity71252]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

Herro is a great pull up shooter...

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45% on all pull ups, 51% from 17ft-3pt...

Not sure what his source is though.

[Coeur]

Herro is going to get drafted way sooner than people have him ranked. Nowell is going to be ready right away

[doordoor123]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

Herro is a great pull up shooter...

Watch on YouTube

45% on all pull ups, 51% from 17ft-3pt...

Not sure what his source is though.

I like to **** on Herro even if he doesn’t deserve it

[RipCity71252]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

Herro is a great pull up shooter...

Watch on YouTube

45% on all pull ups, 51% from 17ft-3pt...

Not sure what his source is though.

I like to **** on Herro even if he doesn’t deserve it

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[doordoor123]

Herro is a great pull up shooter...

Watch on YouTube

45% on all pull ups, 51% from 17ft-3pt...

Not sure what his source is though.

I like to **** on Herro even if he doesn’t deserve it

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I couldn’t think of a counter-example off the top of my head.

[RipCity71252]

I like to **** on Herro even if he doesn’t deserve it

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I couldn’t think of a counter-example off the top of my head.

I think Keldon Johnson fits the player you're describing.

[Roddy B for 3]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

Where do you think Culver should be drafted?

[Stillwater]

Culver is light years ahead of KO as a basketball player , but Culver does not have the same burst or speed.
The difference between their games is significant and not really worthy of comparison

Where do you think Culver should be drafted?

Anywhere after the top 3 is possible but I'm guessing he goes 6-10 range if there isn't much movement in pick spots there.

[clyde21]

Herro has a great pull-up game...his shot diversity is already NBA level.

a stronger pull-up game would work wonders for a guy like RJ tho

[No-Man]

I’m starting to see the best players in the NBA are really good at pulling up from 3 (in transition or half court) and mid-range. When you think about LeBron, Kawhi, Durant, Kyrie Irving, Lillard, Paul George, Harden, even Westbrook is a better player when he’s hitting his pull-up shots. All these guys get a lot of points off of pull-ups. Just shows how valuable that shot is. Other than that, it’s guys with great physical ability, like Siakam or Antetokounmpo. But it just puts in perspective how valuable it is to pull up either with the ball in hand or in transition.

Makes me wonder if I’m underrating guys like Jaylen Nowell and overrating guys like Tyler Herro (who is more of a spot up shooter with a floater game around the rim). It could also be why Reddish could be much better in the NBA.

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my ass quality post Tyler Herro is exactly the opposite, sucks at spot ups and is really good at pull-ups