Jarrett Allen vs Tony Bradley

[Ruzious]

We found a good reason for neither of them being big shot-blockers - neither of them jumps well.

[SBM]

Well I would take Allen if I had to take one, but I still don't like either enough to draft

[doordoor123]

We found a good reason for neither of them being big shot-blockers - neither of them jumps well.

Disagree with this. Allen has a great second jump. He may not have good verticality, but when he jumps he can jump again really quickly. He's light on his feet.

[Ruzious]

We found a good reason for neither of them being big shot-blockers - neither of them jumps well.

Disagree with this. Allen has a great second jump. He may not have good verticality, but when he jumps he can jump again really quickly. He's light on his feet.

Well, while that is important, he had the single worst vertical - both standing and max - in the entire combine, and the proof is in the pudding - his shot-blocking numbers were ordinary.

[doordoor123]

We found a good reason for neither of them being big shot-blockers - neither of them jumps well.

Disagree with this. Allen has a great second jump. He may not have good verticality, but when he jumps he can jump again really quickly. He's light on his feet.

Well, while that is important, he had the single worst vertical - both standing and max - in the entire combine, and the proof is in the pudding - his shot-blocking numbers were ordinary.

That kind of makes sense then. The reason he has a good second jump is probably because he's very mobile and closer to the ground. It's easier for him to recover off the landing.

[Blazinaway]

Disagree with this. Allen has a great second jump. He may not have good verticality, but when he jumps he can jump again really quickly. He's light on his feet.

Well, while that is important, he had the single worst vertical - both standing and max - in the entire combine, and the proof is in the pudding - his shot-blocking numbers were ordinary.

That kind of makes sense then. The reason he has a good second jump is probably because he's very mobile and closer to the ground. It's easier for him to recover off the landing.

LOL, I have moved Allen down the C list, just not very impressed. I think he falls out of the Lottery

[doordoor123]

Well, while that is important, he had the single worst vertical - both standing and max - in the entire combine, and the proof is in the pudding - his shot-blocking numbers were ordinary.

That kind of makes sense then. The reason he has a good second jump is probably because he's very mobile and closer to the ground. It's easier for him to recover off the landing.

LOL, I have moved Allen down the C list, just not very impressed. I think he falls out of the Lottery

You had him in the lottery? I have him late first round. I still think his mobility for a big, his hands, his length, second jump are all valuable. Even if he doesn't have much vertically, he's still 6'10 with a 7'6 wingspan with great mobility and second jump. I think he compares pretty well with an under-developed Joakim Noah-type.

[Blazinaway]

That kind of makes sense then. The reason he has a good second jump is probably because he's very mobile and closer to the ground. It's easier for him to recover off the landing.

LOL, I have moved Allen down the C list, just not very impressed. I think he falls out of the Lottery

You had him in the lottery? I have him late first round. I still think his mobility for a big, his hands, his length, second jump are all valuable. Even if he doesn't have much vertically, he's still 6'10 with a 7'6 wingspan with great mobility and second jump. I think he compares pretty well with an under-developed Joakim Noah-type.

I was just going off draft express as a very general guideline. I really haven't see much of him so I don't have a good feel. He's at 12 and 13 at Draftexpress and nbadraft.net FWIW

[GimmeDat]

I definitely like Allen over Bradley, but I'm still not quite sure what to think of him. He's one of the guys I've been tossing up for the Bulls at 16.

How would you compare Allen to say Anigbogu and Patton in that range?

[No-Man]

I definitely like Allen over Bradley, but I'm still not quite sure what to think of him. He's one of the guys I've been tossing up for the Bulls at 16.

How would you compare Allen to say Anigbogu and Patton in that range?

I like him better than both but probably wouldn't touch him still until the 20s.

Anigbogu is raw and won't be able to play at all next year, he just swats everything, gonna be a foul machine, and he really isnt that fluid, nor is he agile, he has amazing length and a tremendous frame, so he might be developable, but needs to learn a ton.

I think Patton is a specialist, a lob catcher type guy, he is quick off his feet and although not elite athletically, still good and combined with his fluidity makes him special there, maybe he can pick and pop in time too, but he ain't physical, can't rebound and doesn't protect the rim.

Allen is the one that has closer potential to be a starter, he can pass a bit, can shoot a bit already, quicker than Anigbogu, better protecting the rim than Patton, still raw and all, but I think he can get there eventually.

[doordoor123]

I definitely like Allen over Bradley, but I'm still not quite sure what to think of him. He's one of the guys I've been tossing up for the Bulls at 16.

How would you compare Allen to say Anigbogu and Patton in that range?

I like him better than both but probably wouldn't touch him still until the 20s.

Anigbogu is raw and won't be able to play at all next year, he just swats everything, gonna be a foul machine, and he really isnt that fluid, nor is he agile, he has amazing length and a tremendous frame, so he might be developable, but needs to learn a ton.

I think Patton is a specialist, a lob catcher type guy, he is quick off his feet and although not elite athletically, still good and combined with his fluidity makes him special there, maybe he can pick and pop in time too, but he ain't physical, can't rebound and doesn't protect the rim.

Allen is the one that has closer potential to be a starter, he can pass a bit, can shoot a bit already, quicker than Anigbogu, better protecting the rim than Patton, still raw and all, but I think he can get there eventually.

I honestly think all of them should be second round picks and I wouldn't be surprised if it happened. I would take Anjezs Pasecniks and Jonathan Jeanne in front of them.

[Ruzious]

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Every once in a while I get one right. Draftexpress has him in the 40's.

[doordoor123]

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Every once in a while I get one right. Draftexpress has him in the 40's.

Yeah, I could see him as a bit underrated. People think of him has a P&R guy because that's what he is right now, but he has potential.

Ever since he was recorded with a 7'6 wingspan I thought he should be higher. It's really hard to judge him because he wasn't focused at all in Carolina. If he's further along in his development than I thought, there's a legitimate chance he's a mid first. Because that's the issues with all these centers and the reason I have trouble considering them for the first round -- underdeveloped. If any of them have more game than shown, any of them could be mid firsts.

[GimmeDat]

Was praying that Bradley would stay under the radar and he could be on the cards in the early 2nd for us, but by the sounds of Fran's tweet that won't be happening.

Man, there's going to be an absolute load of big men in the mid/late 1st.