Vanderbilt > Knox

clyde21 · Post #1 » by **clyde21** » Fri Feb 9, 2018 11:25 pm

Anyone else feel this way?

Justwar · Post #2 » by **Justwar** » Fri Feb 9, 2018 11:49 pm

Nope. He looks like the worst player in our rotation at the moment. Has to stay who takes a sf who cannot score and looks lost

doordoor123 · Post #3 » by **doordoor123** » Sat Feb 10, 2018 1:57 am

Vanderbilt has potential, but he’s not really doing much. Hard to say without him having a bigger role.

Wizop · Post #4 » by **Wizop** » Sat Feb 10, 2018 2:54 pm

I don't expect Knox to be on the board when my Pacers pick, so Vanderbilt is high on my wish list. could be over valuing him on limited watching though.

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Catchall · Post #5 » by **Catchall** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 2:19 am

Vanderbilt passes well, can play PG in a pinch, and goes to the boards as hard as any wing I've seen. Both Knox and Vanderbilt have great measurables. Otherwise, Vanderbilt is behind in his offensive development compared to Knox. Knox has the 3-ball working, has a floater game, and drives pretty confidently. Vanderbilt is only scoring off of rebounds. I don't think he's even taken a 3 yet this year.

916fan · Post #6 » by **916fan** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:55 am

no way. I don't even have Vanderbilt in my top 60.

clyde21 · Post #7 » by **clyde21** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 6:59 am

916fan wrote:no way. I don't even have Vanderbilt in my top 60.

Why not? That's crazy. Already has an NBA-level built/frame, is long, athletic and seems like a prototypical modern day point-forward that teams covet.

The-Power · Post #8 » by **The-Power** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 12:59 pm

clyde21 wrote:
916fan wrote:no way. I don't even have Vanderbilt in my top 60.

Why not? That's crazy. Already has an NBA-level built/frame, is long, athletic and seems like a prototypical modern day point-forward that teams covet.

There aren't many non-Cs in the NBA who can justify having an on-ball role despite not being able to shoot at all. At this point he'd be a complete liability on offense on most teams and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

doordoor123 · Post #9 » by **doordoor123** » Sun Feb 11, 2018 4:54 pm

The-Power wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
916fan wrote:no way. I don't even have Vanderbilt in my top 60.

Why not? That's crazy. Already has an NBA-level built/frame, is long, athletic and seems like a prototypical modern day point-forward that teams covet.

There aren't many non-Cs in the NBA who can justify having an on-ball role despite not being able to shoot at all. At this point he'd be a complete liability on offense on most teams and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Yeah, hard to even take him Mid-second round right now. He hasn’t proved himself at all.

clyde21 · Post #10 » by **clyde21** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 6:43 pm

The-Power wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
916fan wrote:no way. I don't even have Vanderbilt in my top 60.

Why not? That's crazy. Already has an NBA-level built/frame, is long, athletic and seems like a prototypical modern day point-forward that teams covet.

There aren't many non-Cs in the NBA who can justify having an on-ball role despite not being able to shoot at all. At this point he'd be a complete liability on offense on most teams and his defense isn't good enough to make up for it.

Good point. I get the shooting part for sure in today's NBA. But I do love everything else he brings to the table. Seems like a good team defender, is long, athletic, can handle and run offense and shows good energy on the boards.

Negrodamus · Post #11 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 7:08 pm

Vanderbilt is an elite rebounder, has some ball skills, and is a good defender (high energy), but that's about it at this moment. He has absolutely no touch and a horrific jumper. This is coming from someone who loves how he plays since he's the only one, aside from SGA, that looks like he gives a **** about the outcome of the game.

Hoopz Afrik · Post #12 » by **Hoopz Afrik** » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:07 pm

Not even close from what I've seen. Vanderbilt looks like such a liability on offense right now.

Catchall · Post #13 » by **Catchall** » Fri Feb 16, 2018 4:12 am

Remind anyone of Jerian Grant?

No-Man · Post #14 » by **No-Man** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 4:57 pm

Vanderbilt might be the new Jordan Bell-ish prospect, he is more of a Center than anything honestly

PLO · Post #15 » by **PLO** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:04 pm

I saw a quote from Calipari a few weeks ago along the lines of he hasn't worked out Vanderbilt as yet. Reckon we're all in that same boat.

His rebounding is elite but his most intriguing skill is his handle/vision combo - if he can show something, even a scintilla, of point-forward skills he could sneak into the first round. Superb handle for a guy that size in the open floor but has to show something in tight spaces/half court. I called him Simmons-lite-lite in another thread and you can add another lite to that. NBA scouts will definitely be intrigued and watching.

SeattleJazzFan · Post #16 » by **SeattleJazzFan** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 6:33 pm

Catchall wrote:Remind anyone of Jerian Grant?

no. jerian grant was a proven player - you pretty much knew exactly who he was. also a lot smaller. Vanderbilt is a complete unknown at this point. he's big, has an NBA body and athleticism which intrigues folks for good reason, but he just isn't doing anything out there (other than rebounding which has been consistently very good).

blazeyo · Post #17 » by **blazeyo** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 7:14 pm

I'm super intrigued by Vanderbilt.

Justwar · Post #18 » by **Justwar** » Fri Feb 23, 2018 9:49 pm

Vanderbilt needs a team full of shooters. His shot is the definition of broken

grubs10 · Post #19 » by **grubs10** » Sat Feb 24, 2018 6:22 pm

SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Catchall wrote:Remind anyone of Jerian Grant?

no. jerian grant was a proven player - you pretty much knew exactly who he was. also a lot smaller. Vanderbilt is a complete unknown at this point. he's big, has an NBA body and athleticism which intrigues folks for good reason, but he just isn't doing anything out there (other than rebounding which has been consistently very good).

I'm assuming he meant Jerami Grant instead of Jerian. Would make more sense height and position-wise.

Catchall · Post #20 » by **Catchall** » Sun Feb 25, 2018 1:23 am

grubs10 wrote:
SeattleJazzFan wrote:
Catchall wrote:Remind anyone of Jerian Grant?

no. jerian grant was a proven player - you pretty much knew exactly who he was. also a lot smaller. Vanderbilt is a complete unknown at this point. he's big, has an NBA body and athleticism which intrigues folks for good reason, but he just isn't doing anything out there (other than rebounding which has been consistently very good).

I'm assuming he meant Jerami Grant instead of Jerian. Would make more sense height and position-wise.

Sorry, meant Jerami Grant of the Thunder -- long, wiry, primarily defensive player at this stage.

Vanderbilt has good length, quickness and is a proven rebounder. I think of him as a good horizontal athlete--running the floor, moving laterally, quick to the ball, etc. He can rebound and go, and his ball skills make him a secondary initiator. He's just got to shoot or he's not going to get on the floor at the next level. His athleticism will be more or less average at the next level. Maybe he's a plus defender.

The Jazz really need a long, athletic, 6'9" two-way player to move between the 3 and the 4. Unless Vanderbilt can shoot, however, I'm probably moving on to Issac Bonga beginning around #18 in this draft.