Luka Doncic Part III

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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3181 » by Goon » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:54 pm

Press conference just started:
https://www.mavs.com/draftcentral/
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3182 » by J_T » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:17 pm

Ok so I missed 20 minutes? I hope the replay is going to be there as well.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3183 » by Goon » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:42 pm

J_T wrote:Ok so I missed 20 minutes? I hope the replay is going to be there as well.

It's up on the Mavs FB page:
https://www.facebook.com/dallasmavs/videos/10160380203035461/
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3184 » by Bob8 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 7:59 pm

I believe Luka is in the best, realistic, place. Sorry Daone. ;)

2 interesting facts.

1. Coach said, he needs rest .

2. It’s unlikely he will play summer league.

Really? :D
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3185 » by arkuo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:41 pm

Bob8 wrote:I believe Luka is in the best, realistic, place. Sorry Daone. ;)

2 interesting facts.

1. Coach said, he needs rest .

2. It’s unlikely he will play summer league.

Really? :D


It makes sense because of all the prospects Luka has played over 100 professional games compared to his peers. Rick said he'd be present during practice. So knowing the mavs he will be hitting the training room a lot.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3186 » by Bob8 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:46 pm

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:I believe Luka is in the best, realistic, place. Sorry Daone. ;)

2 interesting facts.

1. Coach said, he needs rest .

2. It’s unlikely he will play summer league.

Really? :D


It makes sense because of all the prospects Luka has played over 100 professional games compared to his peers. Rick said he'd be present during practice. So knowing the mavs he will be hitting the training room a lot.


It makes perfect sense. But when I mentioned that few weeks ago, I was almost placed in asylum. :wink:

He needs training room and proper food regime much more than playing games.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3187 » by arkuo » Fri Jun 22, 2018 8:48 pm

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:I believe Luka is in the best, realistic, place. Sorry Daone. ;)

2 interesting facts.

1. Coach said, he needs rest .

2. It’s unlikely he will play summer league.

Really? :D


It makes sense because of all the prospects Luka has played over 100 professional games compared to his peers. Rick said he'd be present during practice. So knowing the mavs he will be hitting the training room a lot.


It makes perfect sense. But when I mentioned that few weeks ago, I was almost placed in asylum. :wink:


NBA training and coaching will do wonders for Luka. especially under Rick Carlisle.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3188 » by Marcus » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:09 pm

arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
It makes sense because of all the prospects Luka has played over 100 professional games compared to his peers. Rick said he'd be present during practice. So knowing the mavs he will be hitting the training room a lot.


It makes perfect sense. But when I mentioned that few weeks ago, I was almost placed in asylum. :wink:


NBA training and coaching will do wonders for Luka. especially under Rick Carlisle.


Carls is a terrific coach that regularly plays to the strength of his players so i love this fit. Also the idea of Smith and Doncic together is beautiful.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3189 » by Bob8 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:16 pm

1. It’s always good that somebody is willing to trade up for you.

2.Carlise is a great coach and looks to be great person too.

3. Dallas is much better organization than Sancramento.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3190 » by lambchop » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:19 pm

Marcus wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:
It makes perfect sense. But when I mentioned that few weeks ago, I was almost placed in asylum. :wink:


NBA training and coaching will do wonders for Luka. especially under Rick Carlisle.


Carls is a terrific coach that regularly plays to the strength of his players so i love this fit. Also the idea of Smith and Doncic together is beautiful.


Yea some proper nutrition alone will change his career. Dude is not in shape
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3191 » by Marcus » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:24 pm

They gave this kid shooters, finishers, a GM that believes in him and knows how to market him, a damn good coach with a pension for a free-flowing style that fits Doncic's IQ, skillset, and imagination, ANDDDDDDDD, a starting backcourt pairing not unlike the dynamic that helped put him on the radar for a lot of people. He's set to win, only thing left now is to play the game which has always been the easiest part for him.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3192 » by Mirotic12 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 9:52 pm

daoneandonly wrote:
bondom34 wrote:
Mirotic12 wrote:
I hope that after you see how very wrong you are about Doncic, that you can get over this "NCAA is better than EuroLeague" and "no foreign guards can play" shtick. The Mavs got the best player in the draft by far, having just the 5th pick, and you are complaining....

Hopefully most Mavs fans actually realize what they got, and are happy about it.

Almost all do.


Look at the pic in your video capture Mirotic, does this guy look like a professional athlete? I know I may have an irrational take, but you do too when it comes to how good Euroleague is. there's no way a guy with this athleticism (or lack thereof) will dominate at the NBA level. Again, i don't think he'll be a bum, but if you can get an Embiid/Gobert type, you take him over a Turkaglu/Livingston any day. And keep a pick

And of course we'll complain, because Dal stupidly took another PG in the 2nd round. I don't blame Luka, I blame the FO


This thread will be bumped many times.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3193 » by BlueSan » Fri Jun 22, 2018 10:08 pm

I just love so much seeing Brunson along side of him. What a great addition he is and I also believe an extra great guy who will bring loads to this Dallas team. Exited about it!

Btw where was Kostas on this conference? He was also picked by Dallas right?
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3194 » by Marcus » Sat Jun 23, 2018 12:45 am

BlueSan wrote:I just love so much seeing Brunson along side of him. What a great addition he is and I also believe an extra great guy who will bring loads to this Dallas team. Exited about it!

Btw where was Kostas on this conference? He was also picked by Dallas right?


I think Kostas was drafted by Philly.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3195 » by GreatWhiteStiff » Sat Jun 23, 2018 3:23 am

Please dear god stop debating Mirotic on the quality of Euroville players.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3196 » by arkuo » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:41 am

Marcus wrote:
BlueSan wrote:I just love so much seeing Brunson along side of him. What a great addition he is and I also believe an extra great guy who will bring loads to this Dallas team. Exited about it!

Btw where was Kostas on this conference? He was also picked by Dallas right?


I think Kostas was drafted by Philly.


Dallas traded 54 to Philly for 56 and 60
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3197 » by Dundalis » Sat Jun 23, 2018 8:14 am

SportsGuy8 wrote:I don't understand the fascination with DSJ, he's just another inefficient chucker who makes a couple freakishly athletic plays per game and everyone goes crazy. His efficiency isn't just bad, it's absolutely HORRENDOUS. Even vs. college competition it wasn't anything special.

People always naively expect that since a player is young, his decision making is going to miraculously get better, but that basically NEVER happens drastically, there are only some minor improvements.

In a way he's basically the opposite of Doncic, probably loved by those who hate Doncic and vice-versa.

The Mavs really should get rid of him while his value is still high.

There are plenty of great NBA players who had horribly inefficient rookie seasons. That's nothing new, and it's not a predictor of their future ceiling as NBA players. Durant is a prime example. You think OKC should have kicked Durant to the curb after his first season?

I'm not even the biggest DSJ fan, but he's exactly type of talent you allow growing pains to play out for to see if he can learn develop into something much better. The idea that decision making never drastically improves from a players rookie season, especially a point guard which is the hardest position to play is absolute crap. A rookie finds it difficult to be a good decision maker their rookie season because they are having to adapt to a level of play far above what they've ever experienced before, in a new environment with a new team and different coaching. If you're the PG as the primary ball handler every possession, it's doubly difficult because you can never hide. These factors flatten out by their second or third season, which are much better indicators of what they are going to be.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3198 » by J_T » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:14 am

Bob8 wrote:
arkuo wrote:
Bob8 wrote:I believe Luka is in the best, realistic, place. Sorry Daone. ;)

2 interesting facts.

1. Coach said, he needs rest .

2. It’s unlikely he will play summer league.

Really? :D


It makes sense because of all the prospects Luka has played over 100 professional games compared to his peers. Rick said he'd be present during practice. So knowing the mavs he will be hitting the training room a lot.


It makes perfect sense. But when I mentioned that few weeks ago, I was almost placed in asylum. :wink:

He needs training room and proper food regime much more than playing games.

Yeah, I remembered about this thread when they said that he was going to be rested because I remembered the ferocity of some posters, saying that there was no chance Doncic would have been exempted from the Summer league. It just looked silly to me that they used argument "it has never happened before, you mad bro". I don't even remember who the posters were so not calling anyone out. But... they might come back and say that they thought Doncic would play at least FEW Summer league games. :wink: Mavs have not ruled that out the way I see it, Doncic might play some later Summer league games. However in either case, they will be making decision based on how Doncic's body feels, they are not just push him in, disregarding this busy 18-month schedule.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3199 » by Shy Gorgeous-Al » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:49 am

Doncic when it's all said and done will be in the HOF. Kings and Atlanta made a huge mistake. I'm not counting Phoenix because they had to take the consensus 1st overall pick, but the other two teams? they **** up.

Doncic will look huge in the NBA and noticebly quicker in time. He will be able to switch very effectively and take care of mismatches all over the floor, whether it is in the post or from behind the line. Smaller players will not be able to handle him. And for that to happen, he has to play the PG position surrounded by big lineups that would force the opposing team to put a PG on him.

He will annihilate the P&R game in the NBA if teams don't switch and if they do, I hope that he would have a center to dump it to make the defense pay, because I still don't feel like he is very good in taking advantages of switches, certainly not in the NBA. He will get there though and become excellent even in isolation, you see.

He is lucky to be selected by the Mavs. It's a huge thing for him...infinitely better than the rebuilding Hawks and the mystery that is the Kings. I love the Kings fanbase and roster and think that Luka should have been the easy choice for them to make that next step and change their culture. Bagley is just not it.

Doncic just looks like a star.
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Re: Luka Doncic Part III 

Post#3200 » by Archx » Sat Jun 23, 2018 9:55 am

Shy Gorgeous-Al wrote:Doncic when it's all said and done will be in the HOF. Kings and Atlanta made a huge mistake. I'm not counting Phoenix because they had to take the consensus 1st overall pick, but the other two teams? they **** up.

Doncic will look huge in the NBA and noticebly quicker in time. He will be able to switch very effectively and take care of mismatches all over the floor, whether it is in the post or from behind the line. Smaller players will not be able to handle him. And for that to happen, he has to play the PG position surrounded by big lineups that would force the opposing team to put a PG on him.

He will annihilate the P&R game in the NBA if teams don't switch and if they do, I hope that he would have a center to dump it to make the defense pay, because I still don't feel like he is very good in taking advantages of switches, certainly not in the NBA. He will get there though and become excellent even in isolation, you see.

He is lucky to be selected by the Mavs. It's a huge thign for him...infinitely better than the rebuilding Hawks and the mystery that is the Kings.

Doncic just looks like a star.


Wow slow down buddy :D

It will take a good year for him to properly adapt. His strength/conditioning is nowhere near NBA level. He wont be able to play consistently through 82 games just because of fatigue. He has to improve a lot of things and will take good 2-3 years for him to do so...
So first we have to see him play, then we can talk about if he can even win ROY for starters :D

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