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Who would you rather have, Grimes or Langford?

HeadtopChunes wrote:Who would rather have, Grimes or Langford?

Grimes and it isn't particularly close to me

Fischella wrote:

HeadtopChunes wrote:Who would rather have, Grimes or Langford?

Grimes and it isn't particularly close to me

Yeah, thats what I thought. The seemingly vast difference in BBIQ stands out to me the most

TYO23 wrote:I’m leaning to him being more of a two guard who can be a secondary handler. He flashed some nice vision yesterday but I worry about his first step

Yeah, he's good when he has a head of steam but his first step isn't going to be good enough to consistently break defenses. Should be able to get into the lane with his strength but not all the way to the rim consistently

Fischella wrote:

HeadtopChunes wrote:Who would rather have, Grimes or Langford?

Grimes and it isn't particularly close to me

Agreed. Not overly impressed with Langford from what I've seen thus far. Grimes I'd have comfortably in the lottery at this point, but a lot will change over the course of the season I suppose.

Fischella wrote:He looks so much like Courtney Lee, it's uncanny, I mean ideally you get more than that, esp if he can pull-up from 3, which was the doubt, and improve on D and as a play-maker, he is cerebral and poised and from what I heard was great at the NHS in that regard, but not sure you can have him as your lead-Guard

regardless, likely a lotto prospect, but he needs to be more dynamic as a scorer to be a 1st half of the lotto selection in my book

Courtney Lee wishes he had that handle.

Grimes doesn't have a great step but he was really really good at change of speeds when I saw him. I agree with The-Power that he is more gifted passer than someone who runs an offense at the moment. One thing I don't like is his avoidance of contact around the rim.

Thoughts on Grimes- after watching just two games.

Nice size if a PG- decent if SG or combo.
Surprisingly good feel for passing. Good vision.
Solid, not great stroke- good shooter if feet are set.
Very unselfish.
Solid defense, good defensive bball iq, big body, moves well.
Not much of a knack for scoring- at least so far at this level. Most of his points on catch and shoot. Pull up game hasn't been kind and looks a little awkward.
Maybe too unselfish- would like him to be a bit more aggressive, but even that may be due to him understanding his limitations.
Overall, the big body, solid D, passing ability and shooting can take a guy like that a long way. Will be fun to watch over the course of the season to see what he really is.

Plays like young Billups

For now, I'll say Malcolm Brogdon. More creative and quicker in making decisions, but perhaps not quite the shooter.

Fischella wrote:

HeadtopChunes wrote:Who would rather have, Grimes or Langford?

Grimes and it isn't particularly close to me

I have changed my mind around this, if Romeo shoots, I think he is a better prospect, def much closer than I thought, Grimes is just no incisive enough (KU might not be the right setting for him either ofc), but his offense is underwhelming and on defense he is just avg, fine team defender, can't bother some guards with length, but not quick enough to stay with elite guys

Fischella wrote:

Fischella wrote:

HeadtopChunes wrote:Who would rather have, Grimes or Langford?

Grimes and it isn't particularly close to me

I have changed my mind around this, if Romeo shoots, I think he is a better prospect, def much closer than I thought, Grimes is just no incisive enough (KU might not be the right setting for him either ofc), but his offense is underwhelming and on defense he is just avg, fine team defender, can't bother some guards with length, but not quick enough to stay with elite guys

Where would you rank Kevin Porter Jr in regards to those 2??

Ahead on potential, I mean it depends on what your taste is, Grimes is the safest guy

SeattleJazzFan wrote:Thoughts on Grimes- after watching just two games.

Nice size if a PG- decent if SG or combo.
Surprisingly good feel for passing. Good vision.
Solid, not great stroke- good shooter if feet are set.
Very unselfish.
Solid defense, good defensive bball iq, big body, moves well.
Not much of a knack for scoring- at least so far at this level. Most of his points on catch and shoot. Pull up game hasn't been kind and looks a little awkward.
Maybe too unselfish- would like him to be a bit more aggressive, but even that may be due to him understanding his limitations.
Overall, the big body, solid D, passing ability and shooting can take a guy like that a long way. Will be fun to watch over the course of the season to see what he really is.

Still impressed with his feel and willingness for passing the ball. he is a solid defender for a frosh, but he really looks clueless in terms of creating any kind of offense for himself or others. since he's a good passer, if guys are open, he will find them, but he isn't making plays for guys. it would be dumb to come to any sort of conclusion on a young guy like that 6 games into frosh season, but i'm starting to wonder if he has it. just couldn't get anything done tonight. and Grimes might have been my favorite prospect coming out of HS so i'm rooting for him.

He looks pretty meh overall, probably a NBA player due to the combination of size, vision and shooting, but I don't see star upside on either end, Culver looks much better

SeattleJazzFan wrote:but i'm starting to wonder if he has it. just couldn't get anything done tonight. and Grimes might have been my favorite prospect coming out of HS so i'm rooting for him.

Exactly where I'm at. Liked him a lot coming in, but I have some serious doubts about his upside by now. I agree with Fischella – he's probably an NBA player but doesn't appear to be potentially anything special at all. Perhaps a solid starter if his shot develops well. Still rooting for him to take off and show us something to give me some optimism that he could be more than that, though.

I have not seen him beat anybody off the bounce all season. Hopefully he turns it around