NBA Draft 2018 II

[DrazenReznik]

One thing is for sure, Jerry West is going to make a steal of a trade. Everyone is looking to trade up and they have some of the most available picks at 12&13 as well as trade assets. Come draft time, when teams get desperate to trade up, they can really pull for good stuff.

Let's be honest, the clippers arent a smart franchise and dont have a good FO/coaching staff, the odds are astronomically high they'll reach for someone that ends up being one of the biggest bust in the draft

First, I take offense to this comment. They were brilliant to trade Blake Griffin and actually get two lottery picks. And the made some good draft picks last year that should contribute next year. Also did a good job finding gems like Montrezl Harrell, CJ Watson and utilizing two-ways really well. If Doc has shown anything this year, it’s that he’s still a really good coach. They changed the entire playbook this year and started moving the ball a lot more. They even won with everyone injured in and out all season and a huge mid-season trade that let one of their best players go. Also with the inclusion of Jerry West, they brought in one of the smartest basketball minds in the NBA.

The odds are really low they draft someone who busts, especially because teams with a track record of drafting with the same type of strategy (getting athletic tough defenders) end up with really good teams.

Lol oh man where to begin.

They didnt get fair value for Griffin. Second they are probably taking Robert William's at 12 or 13. Hes got bust written all over him.

They are the clippers, it a a 100% guarantee they'll **** it up

[doordoor123]

Let's be honest, the clippers arent a smart franchise and dont have a good FO/coaching staff, the odds are astronomically high they'll reach for someone that ends up being one of the biggest bust in the draft

First, I take offense to this comment. They were brilliant to trade Blake Griffin and actually get two lottery picks. And the made some good draft picks last year that should contribute next year. Also did a good job finding gems like Montrezl Harrell, CJ Watson and utilizing two-ways really well. If Doc has shown anything this year, it’s that he’s still a really good coach. They changed the entire playbook this year and started moving the ball a lot more. They even won with everyone injured in and out all season and a huge mid-season trade that let one of their best players go. Also with the inclusion of Jerry West, they brought in one of the smartest basketball minds in the NBA.

The odds are really low they draft someone who busts, especially because teams with a track record of drafting with the same type of strategy (getting athletic tough defenders) end up with really good teams.

Lol oh man where to begin.

They didnt get fair value for Griffin. Second they are probably taking Robert William's at 12 or 13. Hes got bust written all over him.

They are the clippers, it a a 100% guarantee they'll **** it up

Blake Griffin has been injured every year, it’s a wonder they got anything of value back. Robert Williams has really low potential to bust because he can switch and is super athletic. You’re bad at this

[DrazenReznik]

First, I take offense to this comment. They were brilliant to trade Blake Griffin and actually get two lottery picks. And the made some good draft picks last year that should contribute next year. Also did a good job finding gems like Montrezl Harrell, CJ Watson and utilizing two-ways really well. If Doc has shown anything this year, it’s that he’s still a really good coach. They changed the entire playbook this year and started moving the ball a lot more. They even won with everyone injured in and out all season and a huge mid-season trade that let one of their best players go. Also with the inclusion of Jerry West, they brought in one of the smartest basketball minds in the NBA.

The odds are really low they draft someone who busts, especially because teams with a track record of drafting with the same type of strategy (getting athletic tough defenders) end up with really good teams.

Lol oh man where to begin.

They didnt get fair value for Griffin. Second they are probably taking Robert William's at 12 or 13. Hes got bust written all over him.

They are the clippers, it a a 100% guarantee they'll **** it up

Blake Griffin has been injured every year, it’s a wonder they got anything of value back. Robert Williams has really low potential to bust because he can switch and is super athletic. You’re bad at this

Bruh no wonder no one can take your post serious.

I can guarantee the clippers dont even exist in the next 10 years because the franchise is in such horrific shape.

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Lol oh man where to begin.

They didnt get fair value for Griffin. Second they are probably taking Robert William's at 12 or 13. Hes got bust written all over him.

They are the clippers, it a a 100% guarantee they'll **** it up

Blake Griffin has been injured every year, it’s a wonder they got anything of value back. Robert Williams has really low potential to bust because he can switch and is super athletic. You’re bad at this

Bruh no wonder no one can take your post serious.

I can guarantee the clippers dont even exist in the next 10 years because the franchise is in such horrific shape.

You need to stop posting. You are making yourself look like an idiot.

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[zimpy27]

Lol oh man where to begin.

They didnt get fair value for Griffin. Second they are probably taking Robert William's at 12 or 13. Hes got bust written all over him.

They are the clippers, it a a 100% guarantee they'll **** it up

Blake Griffin has been injured every year, it’s a wonder they got anything of value back. Robert Williams has really low potential to bust because he can switch and is super athletic. You’re bad at this

Bruh no wonder no one can take your post serious.

I can guarantee the clippers dont even exist in the next 10 years because the franchise is in such horrific shape.

8th most valuable franchise with one of the wealthiest owners.

Your guarantee looks flimsy at best

[zimpy27]

Sac town have to be looking to draft doncic. They may throwing out a smokescreen or to attract interest from magic for a pick swap.

If not then it's likely their concern is with the 3 point shot of Luka and the obsession with the warriors.

[NotACat]

Whats SGA done to get teams so high on him? Fixed his jumper?

I'm high on SGA because of how much he improved over the course of one season. He grew into the PG role very well and I think that demonstrates his work ethic, desire to be better, character, and room for growth. He may not have everything you want in a PG right now, but I would bet he puts it together pretty quickly.

[The-Power]

Whats SGA done to get teams so high on him? Fixed his jumper?

I'm high on SGA because of how much he improved over the course of one season. He grew into the PG role very well and I think that demonstrates his work ethic, desire to be better, character, and room for growth. He may not have everything you want in a PG right now, but I would bet he puts it together pretty quickly.

How much was him actually improving compared to just getting more opportunities due to his previous play? I agree that he handled the higher usage really well but I didn't see him improving at anything in particular – he was pretty good from the get-go. In order to be a PG in the NBA he needs to address some issues (e.g. pull-up game, finishing through contact, breaking down defenses off the dribble) and no matter how hard you work it's really tough to overcome those issues. PG in the NBA is an extremely tough position to play, and I wouldn't draft him with the expectation to become one. In my eyes, he's a combo-guard and a PG-in-name only next to an elite wing player with playmaking skills.

[username_taken]

Whats SGA done to get teams so high on him? Fixed his jumper?

I'm high on SGA because of how much he improved over the course of one season. He grew into the PG role very well and I think that demonstrates his work ethic, desire to be better, character, and room for growth. He may not have everything you want in a PG right now, but I would bet he puts it together pretty quickly.

I really do believe that having a outlier-level development curve is one of the most important attributes in the draft, and that GMs towards the top tend to undervalue rapid improvement from HS to college among underclassmen.

[NotACat]

Whats SGA done to get teams so high on him? Fixed his jumper?

I'm high on SGA because of how much he improved over the course of one season. He grew into the PG role very well and I think that demonstrates his work ethic, desire to be better, character, and room for growth. He may not have everything you want in a PG right now, but I would bet he puts it together pretty quickly.

How much was him actually improving compared to just getting more opportunities due to his previous play? I agree that he handled the higher usage really well but I didn't see him improving at anything in particular – he was pretty good from the get-go. In order to be a PG in the NBA he needs to address some issues (e.g. pull-up game, finishing through contact, breaking down defenses off the dribble) and no matter how hard you work it's really tough to overcome those issues. PG in the NBA is an extremely tough position to play, and I wouldn't draft him with the expectation to become one. In my eyes, he's a combo-guard and a PG-in-name only next to an elite wing player with playmaking skills.

In my amateur opinion, I thought his decision making improved a ton throughout the season, and he was better about getting to his spots. From my amateur opinion, it seemed like most of his pull-up jumpers came towards the end of the season which I believe he developed over the season as well. He still has a lot to learn, but its optimistic.

Whats SGA done to get teams so high on him? Fixed his jumper?

I'm high on SGA because of how much he improved over the course of one season. He grew into the PG role very well and I think that demonstrates his work ethic, desire to be better, character, and room for growth. He may not have everything you want in a PG right now, but I would bet he puts it together pretty quickly.

I really do believe that having a outlier-level development curve is one of the most important attributes in the draft, and that GMs towards the top tend to undervalue rapid improvement from HS to college among underclassmen.

I agree, SGA took advantage of the opportunities that were provided and thrived. Not only that, but he made that whole team better. That combined with his measurables, character, and work ethic make him a tantalizing prospect.

[codydaze]

Sac town have to be looking to draft doncic. They may throwing out a smokescreen or to attract interest from magic for a pick swap.

If not then it's likely their concern is with the 3 point shot of Luka and the obsession with the warriors.

If this were the case then Bagley would make no sense and Trae Young would be the pick.

[ruffian014]

Can anybody help me understand why Deandre Ayton is consensus #1 considering the way todays NBA game is played today and his athleticism compared to Bagley? Comparing the two, Bagley seems the more mobile, athletic, and not the traditional center Ayton seems to be. In addition, not sure how Ayton gets all the credit for dominating the PAC 12 where there arent any legit PF or Cs whereas Bagley dominated grown men in the ACC? FWIW, i am a Suns fan and think that Ayton is a horrible #1 pick with the how the NBA is trending towards small ball.

[zimpy27]

Sac town have to be looking to draft doncic. They may throwing out a smokescreen or to attract interest from magic for a pick swap.

If not then it's likely their concern is with the 3 point shot of Luka and the obsession with the warriors.

If this were the case then Bagley would make no sense and Trae Young would be the pick.

Bagley is a pf, Luka is a PG/SG

[codydaze]

Sac town have to be looking to draft doncic. They may throwing out a smokescreen or to attract interest from magic for a pick swap.

If not then it's likely their concern is with the 3 point shot of Luka and the obsession with the warriors.

If this were the case then Bagley would make no sense and Trae Young would be the pick.

Bagley is a pf, Luka is a PG/SG

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. You mentioned if we passed on Luka it would be because we were concerned with his 3 point shot. I'm saying if that were the reasoning for passing then Bagley doesn't make sense being that he's a worse shooter.

[zimpy27]

If this were the case then Bagley would make no sense and Trae Young would be the pick.

Bagley is a pf, Luka is a PG/SG

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. You mentioned if we passed on Luka it would be because we were concerned with his 3 point shot. I'm saying if that were the reasoning for passing then Bagley doesn't make sense being that he's a worse shooter.

Bagley was 40% from 3 on college. He didn't take as many as a guard because he's a pf. 3 point shooting is more important in guards as they are the ones typically moving around the perimeter in offense.

[codydaze]

Bagley is a pf, Luka is a PG/SG

Not sure what this is supposed to mean. You mentioned if we passed on Luka it would be because we were concerned with his 3 point shot. I'm saying if that were the reasoning for passing then Bagley doesn't make sense being that he's a worse shooter.

Bagley was 40% from 3 on college. He didn't take as many as a guard because he's a pf. 3 point shooting is more important in guards as they are the ones typically moving around the perimeter in offense.

Again, if we were trying to build a GS-like team, why would we be taking Bagley when we don't have a 5 that can stretch the floor and have Fox at the point who can't shoot? All I'm saying is if we pass on Luka, it's not because we are concerned with his three point shot.

[DrazenReznik]

Blake Griffin has been injured every year, it’s a wonder they got anything of value back. Robert Williams has really low potential to bust because he can switch and is super athletic. You’re bad at this

Bruh no wonder no one can take your post serious.

I can guarantee the clippers dont even exist in the next 10 years because the franchise is in such horrific shape.

8th most valuable franchise with one of the wealthiest owners.

Your guarantee looks flimsy at best

You think the nba gives a flying **** about either of those things ? Lol gtfo

[doordoor123]

Oops, looks like I’m always right about everything.

Had a few surprises, but in terms of who’ll get opportunities in the NBA, I did a great job.