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Post#21 » by getrichordie » Wed May 6, 2020 4:33 pm

Was pretty low on Ayton compared to most.

getrichordie wrote:People are going to be so disappointed by Ayton.


source: viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1691453&p=64768136&hilit=ayton#p64768136

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This shows I was higher on SGA and lower on WCJ, but admittedly probably too low on Young and maybe too high on Bagley, though I'm still holding out hope. I was really high on Okobo for some reason :lol:

getrichordie wrote:tier 1

Porter, Jr.
Donic
Bagley

tier 2

Bamba
Ayton
Mik. Bridges
Gilgeous-Alexander
Jackson, Jr.

tier 3

Z. Smith
Carter
Young
Knox
Okobo

tier 4

Mil. Bridges
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Post#22 » by getrichordie » Wed May 6, 2020 4:48 pm

Also, there's this:

getrichordie wrote:I love me some Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. And I mean LOVE. I think you could see him go in the top 10 to the first team that needs a PG. It’s close for me between him and Sexton, but I think I’m taking Sexton because of his leadership.


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Post#23 » by shakes0 » Wed May 6, 2020 6:28 pm

The last two posts should be in the Misses thread.
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Post#24 » by getrichordie » Wed May 6, 2020 6:44 pm

shakes0 wrote:The last two posts should be in the Misses thread.


Why is that?
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Post#25 » by shakes0 » Wed May 6, 2020 7:54 pm

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shakes0 wrote:The last two posts should be in the Misses thread.


Why is that?


because they contain more misses than hits. You liked Sexton over SGA....I'd call that a miss, but I guess you can call it a still to be determined.

Most of your tiers were a mess in the other post. Trae was a huge miss. Bagley way too high. MPJ too high if you have him in the same tier as Luka. JJJ and Ayton shouldn't be in the same tier as Bridges and Bamba. You've got two outright busts in tier 3 in Smith and Knox.

I see a lot more misses than hits. Even if you don't, this a thread for Hall of Fame hits, i.e. huge calls you made that turned out right. YOu might disagree with my opinions on your ratings, but you really can't disagree that none of the things you got right are even close to qualifying as a Hall of Fame hit.
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Post#26 » by King Ken » Thu May 21, 2020 6:16 am

Hits:

I think Reddish/Clarke/White will be hits. No misses so far.

18: I think my charts were accurate. Hope Bagley becomes tier 1 which is looking like a reach. Tier 2 looking 100%. Bamba is the only one I am waiting for. I think MPJ is on the right track. I wasn't high as on Knox as I graded him. I knew his bust potential was extremely high.

17: I don't think I hit or miss on this draft. Tatum is better than I thought he would be by this stage.

16: Ingram was letting me down until this year. I hit on LeVert and Sabonis. Missed on Kris Dunn and Tyler Ulis badly.

15: Turner, Booker, Unicorn. Missed on Okafor, Stanley Johnson, and Winslow.
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Post#27 » by Marcus » Sun May 24, 2020 10:18 pm

King Ken wrote:Hits:

I think Reddish/Clarke/White will be hits. No misses so far.

18: I think my charts were accurate. Hope Bagley becomes tier 1 which is looking like a reach. Tier 2 looking 100%. Bamba is the only one I am waiting for. I think MPJ is on the right track. I wasn't high as on Knox as I graded him. I knew his bust potential was extremely high.

17: I don't think I hit or miss on this draft. Tatum is better than I thought he would be by this stage.

16: Ingram was letting me down until this year. I hit on LeVert and Sabonis. Missed on Kris Dunn and Tyler Ulis badly.

15: Turner, Booker, Unicorn. Missed on Okafor, Stanley Johnson, and Winslow.


Post some links for some of these takes and you're gonna need to give Reddish time before you can own that hit unless you had his exact rookies numbers posted somewhere beforehand.
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Post#28 » by King Ken » Sun May 24, 2020 10:42 pm

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King Ken wrote:Hits:

I think Reddish/Clarke/White will be hits. No misses so far.

18: I think my charts were accurate. Hope Bagley becomes tier 1 which is looking like a reach. Tier 2 looking 100%. Bamba is the only one I am waiting for. I think MPJ is on the right track. I wasn't high as on Knox as I graded him. I knew his bust potential was extremely high.

17: I don't think I hit or miss on this draft. Tatum is better than I thought he would be by this stage.

16: Ingram was letting me down until this year. I hit on LeVert and Sabonis. Missed on Kris Dunn and Tyler Ulis badly.

15: Turner, Booker, Unicorn. Missed on Okafor, Stanley Johnson, and Winslow.


Post some links for some of these takes and you're gonna need to give Reddish time before you can own that hit unless you had his exact rookies numbers posted somewhere beforehand.

Other then what I posted here, I don't think i have any links. But if i have it here, it's there for public info.

I stopped posting online my boards in 2013. The Giannis draft. I should have the 2018-2020 information on this site.

Considering what I've seen so far, I am extremely confident in those three moving forward
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Post#29 » by HotelVitale » Sat Jun 6, 2020 4:08 am

I wanted to shout out my man Negrodamus from the Sixers draft threads. Lived up to his name a bunch of time by coming out hard for players that, in retrospect, we all should've seen coming. His signature is 'these picks would be perfect for us, but we'll inevitably end up taking whichever overrated schlub the draft websites have higher than them.' Those threads are all locked because they're dated to those particular drafts, but here are a couple examples. (If he were only our GM those years, sigh.)

In 2017 he spent weeks pitching Donovan Mitchell as a top pick, with posts like this:
"I mean, if you objectively look at it, he's a better at almost everything than Ball except for passing and three point shooting (however I like Mitchell's potential as a shooter in the NBA much more since he's got a form shooting coaches can work with). He's a more versatile offensive player than Monk, by a lot. He is on the same tier defensively (some might argue Mitchell is better) than Fox and he can also get his shot wherever he wants on the court, and, you know, actually make it. He's infinity times better at defense than Fultz and Smith. On top of that, he's in the same echelon of athlete as all of them, vertically and laterally. So, when we're talking about potential and swinging for the fences, I'm not sure where an explosive, two way scoring sophomore guard falls in that category."

The year after he beat the drum for the Sixers taking SGA at #10 for months and months:
"I've really been struggling to keep SGA (low). His tourney season (SEC/NCAA) might be the best during that stretch of any guard. 6 games: 20ppg (52% FG, 54% 2FG, 42% 3FG), 8 FTA per game (84% FT), 6 apg, 6 rpg, 2 spg, 2.5 topg. Efficient with volume. The funny thing is, if you do the last 10 games, it's arguably more efficient in the scoring department. He was just dominating people."
"Not to be the SGA propaganda machine, but he's the reason this team made a complete turn around...Along with him being determined to be great and having the stats + ideal height/length makes him pretty can't miss to me"

In '17 there were a couple of us who were very vocal about how Fultz was overrated, but he was the only one who kept repeating that Tatum was the real star:
"I'm still a bit confused as to how Tatum isn't even in the discussion for #1 or even #2. I don't think I've wavered off him as the best player since midway through conference play. 2 way player with size, agility to defend multiple positions, and a foul drawing scorer with textbook jumper."
"His size and skill makes me think he's the best prospect in the draft. He's been great off ball and in ISO situations ever since Duke has been honed in. The idea that he's just a ball dominant scorer is really a fallacy now. He's actually very much playing within their system and thriving. I think people see the "ISO KILLER" headline for that DX video and assume he's a ball hog."
"BTW, Tatum is the best player in this draft. He's scoring at will right now. Carry on."
"Mock drafts have Celtics taking Tatum. They're going to end up with possibly the best player in the draft and he fits their system. Good for them, I guess."
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Post#30 » by Mylie10 » Sat Aug 15, 2020 11:57 pm

My hits are at before draft days:

Draymond Green
Kawhi Leonard
Malcolm Brogdon

Those are draft picks based on where the Warriors were picking in that draft.
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Post#31 » by Rich4114 » Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:01 am

HotelVitale wrote:I wanted to shout out my man Negrodamus from the Sixers draft threads. Lived up to his name a bunch of time by coming out hard for players that, in retrospect, we all should've seen coming. His signature is 'these picks would be perfect for us, but we'll inevitably end up taking whichever overrated schlub the draft websites have higher than them.' Those threads are all locked because they're dated to those particular drafts, but here are a couple examples. (If he were only our GM those years, sigh.)

In 2017 he spent weeks pitching Donovan Mitchell as a top pick, with posts like this:
"I mean, if you objectively look at it, he's a better at almost everything than Ball except for passing and three point shooting (however I like Mitchell's potential as a shooter in the NBA much more since he's got a form shooting coaches can work with). He's a more versatile offensive player than Monk, by a lot. He is on the same tier defensively (some might argue Mitchell is better) than Fox and he can also get his shot wherever he wants on the court, and, you know, actually make it. He's infinity times better at defense than Fultz and Smith. On top of that, he's in the same echelon of athlete as all of them, vertically and laterally. So, when we're talking about potential and swinging for the fences, I'm not sure where an explosive, two way scoring sophomore guard falls in that category."

The year after he beat the drum for the Sixers taking SGA at #10 for months and months:
"I've really been struggling to keep SGA (low). His tourney season (SEC/NCAA) might be the best during that stretch of any guard. 6 games: 20ppg (52% FG, 54% 2FG, 42% 3FG), 8 FTA per game (84% FT), 6 apg, 6 rpg, 2 spg, 2.5 topg. Efficient with volume. The funny thing is, if you do the last 10 games, it's arguably more efficient in the scoring department. He was just dominating people."
"Not to be the SGA propaganda machine, but he's the reason this team made a complete turn around...Along with him being determined to be great and having the stats + ideal height/length makes him pretty can't miss to me"

In '17 there were a couple of us who were very vocal about how Fultz was overrated, but he was the only one who kept repeating that Tatum was the real star:
"I'm still a bit confused as to how Tatum isn't even in the discussion for #1 or even #2. I don't think I've wavered off him as the best player since midway through conference play. 2 way player with size, agility to defend multiple positions, and a foul drawing scorer with textbook jumper."
"His size and skill makes me think he's the best prospect in the draft. He's been great off ball and in ISO situations ever since Duke has been honed in. The idea that he's just a ball dominant scorer is really a fallacy now. He's actually very much playing within their system and thriving. I think people see the "ISO KILLER" headline for that DX video and assume he's a ball hog."
"BTW, Tatum is the best player in this draft. He's scoring at will right now. Carry on."
"Mock drafts have Celtics taking Tatum. They're going to end up with possibly the best player in the draft and he fits their system. Good for them, I guess."


How is this person not pursuing a career as a scout? Does he just need to be found? Awesome post, thanks for sharing.
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Post#32 » by God Squad » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:58 am

Rich4114 wrote:
HotelVitale wrote:I wanted to shout out my man Negrodamus from the Sixers draft threads. Lived up to his name a bunch of time by coming out hard for players that, in retrospect, we all should've seen coming. His signature is 'these picks would be perfect for us, but we'll inevitably end up taking whichever overrated schlub the draft websites have higher than them.' Those threads are all locked because they're dated to those particular drafts, but here are a couple examples. (If he were only our GM those years, sigh.)

In 2017 he spent weeks pitching Donovan Mitchell as a top pick, with posts like this:
"I mean, if you objectively look at it, he's a better at almost everything than Ball except for passing and three point shooting (however I like Mitchell's potential as a shooter in the NBA much more since he's got a form shooting coaches can work with). He's a more versatile offensive player than Monk, by a lot. He is on the same tier defensively (some might argue Mitchell is better) than Fox and he can also get his shot wherever he wants on the court, and, you know, actually make it. He's infinity times better at defense than Fultz and Smith. On top of that, he's in the same echelon of athlete as all of them, vertically and laterally. So, when we're talking about potential and swinging for the fences, I'm not sure where an explosive, two way scoring sophomore guard falls in that category."

The year after he beat the drum for the Sixers taking SGA at #10 for months and months:
"I've really been struggling to keep SGA (low). His tourney season (SEC/NCAA) might be the best during that stretch of any guard. 6 games: 20ppg (52% FG, 54% 2FG, 42% 3FG), 8 FTA per game (84% FT), 6 apg, 6 rpg, 2 spg, 2.5 topg. Efficient with volume. The funny thing is, if you do the last 10 games, it's arguably more efficient in the scoring department. He was just dominating people."
"Not to be the SGA propaganda machine, but he's the reason this team made a complete turn around...Along with him being determined to be great and having the stats + ideal height/length makes him pretty can't miss to me"

In '17 there were a couple of us who were very vocal about how Fultz was overrated, but he was the only one who kept repeating that Tatum was the real star:
"I'm still a bit confused as to how Tatum isn't even in the discussion for #1 or even #2. I don't think I've wavered off him as the best player since midway through conference play. 2 way player with size, agility to defend multiple positions, and a foul drawing scorer with textbook jumper."
"His size and skill makes me think he's the best prospect in the draft. He's been great off ball and in ISO situations ever since Duke has been honed in. The idea that he's just a ball dominant scorer is really a fallacy now. He's actually very much playing within their system and thriving. I think people see the "ISO KILLER" headline for that DX video and assume he's a ball hog."
"BTW, Tatum is the best player in this draft. He's scoring at will right now. Carry on."
"Mock drafts have Celtics taking Tatum. They're going to end up with possibly the best player in the draft and he fits their system. Good for them, I guess."


How is this person not pursuing a career as a scout? Does he just need to be found? Awesome post, thanks for sharing.

Agreed, pretty impressive
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Post#33 » by EMG518 » Fri Aug 28, 2020 9:24 pm

Just a few posts. There are obviously misses as well but I have gotten way better at locating solid guys and the busts. I think my most notable miss recently was Trae.

11/18
"Guys I am intrigued with right now, I think they all are going to be good but man could you imagine Zion in MSG.

Zion Williamson
Cam Reddish
Bol Bol
Ja Morant
Rui Hachimura
Kevin Porter Jr"


6/18

"I am really not keen on this draft right now. I like Deandre Ayton, Luka Doncic, Mikal Bridges, Jaren Jackson and Lonnie Walker at the moment."

6/17

I think I am sold on Donovan Mitchell. The kid can score 20 ppg and play defense. We just need to have him work on his play making.

5/17

If were not grabbing one of those top guys, I think I would give John Collins from Wake Forest a real hard look

2/17

I haven't been around lately, been real busy so I haven't kept up with the draft a ton. What's the current talk going on about Fultz. Has there been any concerns about the speed at which he plays the game. He seems like he is in 3rd gear all the time. I am a little concerned about him defensively as well as him getting separation on his shot at the next level. Has anyone else expressed similar concerns?
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Post#34 » by Mylie10 » Sun Aug 30, 2020 6:45 pm

My big hits were Draymond Green and Kawhi Leonard

I was on both in college and was pushing the Warriors board hard for them.
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Post#35 » by mattg » Fri Sep 25, 2020 2:41 am

What's with people claiming HOF hits without even being able to link their posts to prove it? How dumb.

Also, now is probably the time for this.
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