Kentucky prospects (Johnson, Hagans, Washington, Herro...)

clyde21 · Post #1 » by **clyde21** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 6:52 pm

Thread to discuss all Kentucky prospects:

Keldon Johnson
PJ Washington
EJ Montgomery
Reid Travis
Tyler Herro
Immanuel Quickley
Ashton Hagans

No-Man · Post #2 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:12 pm

Hagans, Montgomery and Quickley aren't 2019 prospects (Hagans is close to a non prospect but if he sticks for 4 years who knows), Reid isn't a prospect at all (and Washington is close to the same)

clyde21 · Post #3 » by **clyde21** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:18 pm

Fischella wrote:Hagans, Montgomery and Quickley aren't 2019 prospects (Hagans is close to a non prospect but if he sticks for 4 years who knows), Reid isn't a prospect at all (and Washington is close to the same)

Washington is a lotto pick talent.

No-Man · Post #4 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:20 pm

clyde21 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Hagans, Montgomery and Quickley aren't 2019 prospects (Hagans is close to a non prospect but if he sticks for 4 years who knows), Reid isn't a prospect at all (and Washington is close to the same)

Washington is a lotto pick talent.

Sorry, don't want to offend nobody but :lol:

clyde21 · Post #5 » by **clyde21** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:25 pm

Fischella wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
Fischella wrote:Hagans, Montgomery and Quickley aren't 2019 prospects (Hagans is close to a non prospect but if he sticks for 4 years who knows), Reid isn't a prospect at all (and Washington is close to the same)

Washington is a lotto pick talent.

Sorry, don't want to offend nobody but

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No-Man · Post #6 » by **No-Man** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:47 pm

Seriously man, I have been watching PJ since HS, followed the guy intensely last year and have watched him this year too, you don't need to link me to his game against North Dakota, I can watch any of his clips anytime on synergy

He is close to a non prospect, with his tools and skillset he needs a type of motor and intelligence that he just doesnt have, somebody is going to draft him because he is toolsy, but the guy is a dud

clyde21 · Post #7 » by **clyde21** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 7:50 pm

Fischella wrote:Seriously man, I have been watching PJ since HS, followed the guy intensely last year and have watched him this year too, you don't need to link me to his game against North Dakota, I can watch any of his clips anytime on synergy

He is close to a non prospect, with his tools and skillset he needs a type of motor and intelligence that he just doesnt have, somebody is going to draft him because he is toolsy, but the guy is a dud

We'll agree to disagree on that one.

Post #8 » by **Duke4life831** » Mon Dec 3, 2018 8:26 pm

By far Cal's weakest crop of NBA talent. I like Keldon Johnson but there is nothing about his game I love. I'm still holding out to see what he does against consistently better opposition. But right now he kind of just looks like an average prospect to me. Average size, average athleticism, average shot, crafty scorer. No doubt a lotto pick in this year's draft, but just not seeing anything wow about him.

I said when Duke was going hard for EJ that I thought EJ could be a dominant college big, not sure how big of an impact he can have in the NBA. I still feel the same way.

PJ should be a better player than he is. But getting a slightly bigger Justin Anderson vibe from him.

Herro I'm a fan of but hasn't looked great so far. Really struggled with Duke's size in the first game. Curious how he looks once SEC play comes around.

Travis isn't going to get drafted, and the young guards aren't serious draft prospects this year.

Post #9 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Dec 4, 2018 2:24 am

Keldon is super solid, though not spectacular.

I liked EJ coming in, haven't seen enough, but he is intriguing for sure.

I think I'm somewhere in the middle between you cylde and fisch, wouldn't have him lotto, but I like the tools and the jumper looks improved. I have him early 2nd right now... could see a team going early 1st with him.

Herro is... okay? Needs to play better. Nothing more than a 2nd rounder at best imo.

clyde21 · Post #10 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 7, 2019 8:34 pm

What are the chances Herro declares?

clyde21 · Post #11 » by **clyde21** » Mon Jan 7, 2019 8:39 pm

also, PJ Washington continues to be criminally underrated. a guy that can switch like him defensively with his athleticism, length and production should be a top 20 guy easily.

PER40: 19/12/3.5/1/2 with 10 BPM, 25 PER, 60 TS%, .224 WS/48.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #12 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Mon Jan 7, 2019 11:54 pm

clyde21 wrote:also, PJ Washington continues to be criminally underrated. a guy that can switch like him defensively with his athleticism, length and production should be a top 20 guy easily.

PER40: 19/12/3.5/1/2 with 10 BPM, 25 PER, 60 TS%, .224 WS/48.

YES.

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Post #13 » by **GimmeDat** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 12:39 am

Yeah I'm in on Washington. I think he's a definite top 35 guy. Higher than hat I think you can debate either way. But he's taken a big step up this year and I like what I see.

RipCity71252 · Post #14 » by **RipCity71252** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:00 am

Wish PJ moved better. If he did, I could see him as a first rounder. But as it stands, I don't really see what will get him on the floor early on in his career.

He just seems pretty bleh to me minus the length.

clyde21 · Post #15 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:20 am

dude can low key pass too:

Read on Twitter

also serious athleticism:

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clyde21 · Post #16 » by **clyde21** » Tue Jan 8, 2019 6:11 pm

So Tyler Herro is a legitimate offensive talent. Needs to get bigger and stronger but he's not just a spot shooter...dude has some real ability off-the-dribble and as a passer as well.

Reminds me somewhat of a smaller D-Book tbh. might be a good idea for him to return to school tho given that this is a strong SG class.

clyde21 · Post #17 » by **clyde21** » Wed Jan 9, 2019 2:21 am

Hagans with another 5 steal game. Also 18 points and 4 assists.

Another 20+ point game for Herro, who's been killing it the last 7-8 games.

These Kentucky prospects are starting to come on strong here.

RipCity71252 · Post #18 » by **RipCity71252** » Wed Jan 9, 2019 11:43 am

Herro is still my favorite of this group.

Redick-esque wingspan sucks but decent standing reach. Very underrated athlete and a complete scoring game. Decision making isn't always there though. Gets caught between being a scorer and play maker a lot, but he's too smart and naturally skilled for that not to improve.

Keldon and PJ are really meh to me. PJ is like a less physically talented Vonleh, and besides shooting (which I'm not sold on) and somewhat intriguing touch around the rim, I don't see anything special about Keldon. Sneaky bad athlete and not much of a defender and doesn't show any real on ball creation potential.

Hagans has good size and D, but he's a mess offensively at this point.

No-Man · Post #19 » by **No-Man** » Wed Jan 9, 2019 11:54 am

The issue with Herro is how much he likes to dribble, if sticks to off-movement shooting he can be a gamer, we shall see, he is athletic but he isn't fluid, that's bad for driving, he needs to keep a live dribble to have a chance, from standstill he is terrible

I think all of the guys are top45 prospects but pretty low on them overall

EvanZ · Post #20 » by **EvanZ** » Wed Jan 9, 2019 9:20 pm

Fischella wrote:The issue with Herro is how much he likes to dribble, if sticks to off-movement shooting he can be a gamer, we shall see, he is athletic but he isn't fluid, that's bad for driving, he needs to keep a live dribble to have a chance, from standstill he is terrible

I think all of the guys are top45 prospects but pretty low on them overall

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?