Kentucky prospects (Johnson, Hagans, Washington, Herro...)

[clyde21]

The issue with Herro is how much he likes to dribble, if sticks to off-movement shooting he can be a gamer, we shall see, he is athletic but he isn't fluid, that's bad for driving, he needs to keep a live dribble to have a chance, from standstill he is terrible

I think all of the guys are top45 prospects but pretty low on them overall

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

[NBA Fan 1234]

The issue with Herro is how much he likes to dribble, if sticks to off-movement shooting he can be a gamer, we shall see, he is athletic but he isn't fluid, that's bad for driving, he needs to keep a live dribble to have a chance, from standstill he is terrible

I think all of the guys are top45 prospects but pretty low on them overall

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

Eh, I think Huerter being better than Herro is pretty clear cut...but I was also very high on Huerter.

[clyde21]

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

Eh, I think Huerter being better than Herro is pretty clear cut...but I was also very high on Huerter.

based on what? Herro as a freshman has been much better than what Huerter was as a FS. Herro is also much better off the bounce than Huerter.

[NBA Fan 1234]

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

Eh, I think Huerter being better than Herro is pretty clear cut...but I was also very high on Huerter.

based on what? Herro as a freshman has been much better than what Huerter was as a FS. Herro is also much better off the bounce than Huerter.

Honestly don't remember what Huerter was as a freshman, but last year, I really liked what I saw. He was a legitimately good defender, was a great shooter, could create as a secondary playmaker, great finisher, could create for himself in iso, and wasn't erratic. Stronger, too.

[clyde21]

Eh, I think Huerter being better than Herro is pretty clear cut...but I was also very high on Huerter.

based on what? Herro as a freshman has been much better than what Huerter was as a FS. Herro is also much better off the bounce than Huerter.

Honestly don't remember what Huerter was as a freshman, but last year, I really liked what I saw. He was a legitimately good defender, was a great shooter, could create as a secondary playmaker, great finisher, could create for himself in iso, and wasn't erratic. Stronger, too.

sounds like you had him as a top 5 pick

[EvanZ]

The issue with Herro is how much he likes to dribble, if sticks to off-movement shooting he can be a gamer, we shall see, he is athletic but he isn't fluid, that's bad for driving, he needs to keep a live dribble to have a chance, from standstill he is terrible

I think all of the guys are top45 prospects but pretty low on them overall

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

LMAO. You don't know me then. I had Huerter 8 on my final pre-draft board.

Huerter >>>>> Herro

Huerter was a) born to shoot and b) has great vision and team skills. Now if you had said DDV, I might agree.

[NBA Fan 1234]

based on what? Herro as a freshman has been much better than what Huerter was as a FS. Herro is also much better off the bounce than Huerter.

Honestly don't remember what Huerter was as a freshman, but last year, I really liked what I saw. He was a legitimately good defender, was a great shooter, could create as a secondary playmaker, great finisher, could create for himself in iso, and wasn't erratic. Stronger, too.

sounds like you had him as a top 5 pick

Nope, had some athletic concerns. I think I had him 11th / in the 9-11 range.

[clyde21]

I don't really get whatever hype there is for Herro. Maybe if you squint he's Joe Harris one day?

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

LMAO. You don't know me then. I had Huerter 8 on my final pre-draft board.

Huerter >>>>> Herro

Huerter was a) born to shoot and b) has great vision and team skills. Now if you had said DDV, I might agree.

i know how high u had Huerter, that's why I brought him up.

comparing them both as freshmen, Herro is better and it's not even close.

Huerter is probably a better defender just by virtue of being bigger and stronger but Herro IMO has more potential offensively, specifically off the bounce as well as a secondary playmaker.

either way, I don't see how u can have Huerter top 8 in a STRONG class and barely think of Herro as a prospect. Line of reasoning isn't adding up for me.

[EvanZ]

could've said the same thing about Huerter last season.

LMAO. You don't know me then. I had Huerter 8 on my final pre-draft board.

Huerter >>>>> Herro

Huerter was a) born to shoot and b) has great vision and team skills. Now if you had said DDV, I might agree.

i know how high u had Huerter, that's why I brought him up.

comparing them both as freshmen, Herro is better and it's not even close.

Huerter is longer so immediately that's an advantage. Huerter's BBIQ is off the charts. He's also an elite shooter. It's not close. I don't see Herro in that realm.

You're going to make a lot of mistakes if you think every guy like Herro is the same as Huerter.

[EvanZ]

Also btw, Herro will be 19 in a couple weeks. Huerter was 19 his sophomore year. He's only a month older than Trae.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Now might be a good time to point out that Huerter was 14/20 in iso situations last year (100th percentile) and was in the 99th percentile (11/17) on iso drives (including pull up Js)...and 89th percentile around basket, 89th on runners, 86th on jumpers, 73rd C&S, 82nd on off the dribble jumpers.

[EvanZ]

Now might be a good time to point out that Huerter was 14/20 in iso situations last year (100th percentile) and was in the 99th percentile (11/17) on iso drives (including pull up Js)...and 89th percentile around basket, 89th on runners, 86th on jumpers, 73rd C&S, 82nd on off the dribble jumpers.

He also has arguably the best shooting stroke to come out of college since Klay. I can pull up my tweets on this.

[clyde21]

LMAO. You don't know me then. I had Huerter 8 on my final pre-draft board.

Huerter >>>>> Herro

Huerter was a) born to shoot and b) has great vision and team skills. Now if you had said DDV, I might agree.

i know how high u had Huerter, that's why I brought him up.

comparing them both as freshmen, Herro is better and it's not even close.

Huerter is longer so immediately that's an advantage. Huerter's BBIQ is off the charts. He's also an elite shooter. It's not close. I don't see Herro in that realm.

You're going to make a lot of mistakes if you think every guy like Herro is the same as Huerter.

still doesn't reconcile back to the idea that Huerter is a top 8 player in a strong class but Herro isn't a prospect.

[EvanZ]

By the way this was one of my easier calls on Draft night.

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[EvanZ]

still doesn't reconcile back to the idea that Huerter is a top 8 player in a strong class but Herro isn't a prospect.

Show me where I said he isn't a prospect.

What I said was I don't get the hype. He's a prospect. I'm just not super high on him. Similar to Dort in terms of unwarranted hype.

[clyde21]

Now might be a good time to point out that Huerter was 14/20 in iso situations last year (100th percentile) and was in the 99th percentile (11/17) on iso drives (including pull up Js)...and 89th percentile around basket, 89th on runners, 86th on jumpers, 73rd C&S, 82nd on off the dribble jumpers.

He also has arguably the best shooting stroke to come out of college since Klay. I can pull up my tweets on this.

Herro's is smooth af

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[NBA Fan 1234]

By the way this was one of my easier calls on Draft night.

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I thought he wouldn't fall past MKE (after thinking he wouldn't fall past 76ers, after thinking he wouldn't fall past Washington, after thinking he wouldn't fall past Denver). It was a long draft night for my predictions on Huerter, lol.

[clyde21]

still doesn't reconcile back to the idea that Huerter is a top 8 player in a strong class but Herro isn't a prospect.

Show me where I said he isn't a prospect.

What I said was I don't get the hype. He's a prospect. I'm just not super high on him. Similar to Dort in terms of unwarranted hype.

you said "if you squint you might see Joe Harris"...what else am I supposed to take from that?

[EvanZ]

still doesn't reconcile back to the idea that Huerter is a top 8 player in a strong class but Herro isn't a prospect.

Show me where I said he isn't a prospect.

What I said was I don't get the hype. He's a prospect. I'm just not super high on him. Similar to Dort in terms of unwarranted hype.

you said "if you squint you might see Joe Harris"...what else am I supposed to take from that?

That Joe Harris is a good NBA player and a possible ceiling comp?

[clyde21]

Show me where I said he isn't a prospect.

What I said was I don't get the hype. He's a prospect. I'm just not super high on him. Similar to Dort in terms of unwarranted hype.

you said "if you squint you might see Joe Harris"...what else am I supposed to take from that?

That Joe Harris is a good NBA player and a possible ceiling comp?

so Joe Harris is his CEILING "if you squint"? sounds like a non-prospect to me.

anyways, this is all semantics. we'll see what happens the rest of the year with Herro. don't think he declares anyways.