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Kansas Prospects (Vick, Dotson, Grimes, Garrett, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#1 » by baldur » Thu Dec 6, 2018 11:13 am

You can discuss these prospects here.

Lagerald Vick - SG - Senior
Dedric Lawson - PF - Junior
Udoka Azubuike - C - Junior
Quentin Grimes - SG - Freshman
Devon Dotson - PG - Freshman
Marcus Garrett - SG - Sophomore
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#2 » by clyde21 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 6:20 pm

you forgot Grimes and Dotson :wink:

I'm a fan of Dedric Lawson. I think he's gonna be a find for a team in that early 2nd round range. They're actually running some offense thru him now and is showing off some playmaking.

19/11/3 with over a steal and a block a game on 11 BPM, 28 PER, and 54 TS%.

Grimes has top 10 talent but for some reason isn't putting it together at this point. Very timid. He's gonna be interesting to watch moving forward this season but I think he's a candidate to return to school at this point.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#3 » by doordoor123 » Thu Dec 6, 2018 7:19 pm

I think there’s a role for Azubuike in the league. Maybe as a third big off the bench. To me the biggest thing that will keep him out of getting minutes is his movement on defense. You have to be able to defend the wing from 5 positions now. And backups are now reserved for small-ball. That only leaves the 3rd option. He might spend a lot of time in the G-League learning to change his body. Reminds me a lot of Chinanu Onuaku.

Grimes is solid. Young and needs work.

With some work I think Lawson can make the league. He’s long and can draw fouls. Might spend some time gaining weight and learning to be a better shooter. He needs to either become a stretch 4 or a scoring inside player. I don’t think he’ll ever be a rebounder or defender, but there’s a role for a stretch 4 who is good at drawing fouls or a back up big that can score inside.

One player I like, but I’ve always been iffy on is LaGerald Vick. I think he can be a pasty defender and I really like his IQ on that side of the ball. He gets in the right spots and makes the right plays. But he’s really skinny. However, he’s long and smart. Curry to me is a good defender and Vick has a similar body so I think there’s a chance he’s a solid player. If his shot keeps falling I think he can be somewhere between a Roleplayer and 6th Man. If his shot is bogus he might spend time in the G-League.

I don’t really see anyone else on the team as a legit prospect, Dotson being one of them. But a good late season performance by Dotson can bring him all the way to the first round. I just haven’t seen him perform the way he’s able to yet.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#4 » by Hoopz Afrik » Thu Dec 6, 2018 8:04 pm

My friends call me crazy but I really have always liked LaGerald Vick. He gives me mini-Corey Brewer/Robert Covington vibes and I think there is a place in this league for him as a backup energizer and defender off the bench. If his shooting holds up (the rate he's hitting right now is unsustainable but he does seem much improved from deep) then I think he could make a playoff team very happy toward the end of the first round.

Udoka Azubuike is a guy I have a lot of love for but I don't see the NBA in his future. I can see him getting a few looks but I think a career overseas would be the best for him to maximize his earning potential may ultimately be what's best for his basketball career.

I know a lot of folks are down on KJ Lawson because he's not much of an athlete and doesn't shoot the long ball very well but he's a hooper plain and simple. He really knows how to play the game of basketball, he's quite lethal from the free throw line on dawn. He's extremely proficient and crafty around the basketball and passes very well. He has a place in the NBA for sure.

I like Grimes and Dotson but I need to see how they perform as the season continues. I like their longer term potential. Both of those guys are guys I can see as top 5-10 talents in the 2020 class but the 2019 class might be a bit premature for them to me.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#5 » by No-Man » Thu Dec 6, 2018 8:28 pm

Grimes and Dotson I think end up coming back, Grimes has a solid floor but hasn't shown enough to be a 1st round pick even with his "pedigree", Dotson is just too raw as a play-maker, but has the physical tools of a bulldog PG and could pan out well if he control his game and shoots well

Azubuike is ultimately a specialist, might have a rol for a team as a 3rd Center (he is probably a year older or two than what it says in the oficial birth date), draw fouls, hit the O-glass, put-backs, finish some rolls, but it's the type of guy that ultimately brings very little value and either goes undrafted or in the 50-60 range where some players even don't wanna get picked

Vick and Lawson are going to be in this draft for obvious reasons, I think Vick ultimately makes a roster, either as a 2-way (most likely) or as a full-fledged player, might get drafted in the 40s, I like his aggressiveness and motor but often it gets the best of him and his shooting is kinda hot/cold, doesn't have the size/strength to be effective on D if he doesn't play more under control, ultimately there are better options when it comes to his archetype in this class (Josh Reaves for example)

Dedric if anything needs to slim down a bit to become a bit more mobile, he has gotten really big since his frosh year, solid touch, nice vision and passing, he can score from downlow at this level but I doubt it translates into much, he is pretty clearly a combo-big to me that has no place guarding on the perimeter even with his length, people bring up Slo-mo cause both are slow but Anderson is bigger and more fluid, I think Lawson is kinda similar in a way to a non-athletic Bobo Diaw/Luis Scola combo, more of a scorer than Diaw but not as skilled as either, he is gonna have to hit 3s at a good clip to get a role, ultimately I think he is a player that translates much better overseas playing EuroLeague and needs a ton of luck to find his footing in the league, I think he ends up getting drafted early in the 2nd due to his strong statistical resume (models loved him as a true freshman)
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#6 » by clyde21 » Wed Jan 9, 2019 5:47 pm

Buike is out for the year, which is low-key better for Lawson who's played a lot better when Buike hits the bench. Lawson really is a good fit as modern small ball 5 IMO.

Grimes I now have as a top 5 prospect, even if the production obviously hasn't caught up yet. Might be the best off-ball player I've watched this season so far and has the BBIQ and smoothness to his game that really intrigues me as a CG.

Dotson is a firecracker but tends to be all over place at times in terms of his decision making and finishing around the rim. I think he comes back and establishes himself as a first rounder next season.

also OP please fix title to include Grimes and Dotson. You're missing the best two prospects. :lol:
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#7 » by TheSuzerain » Wed Jan 9, 2019 7:56 pm

Their best prospect is Devon Dotson.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#8 » by clyde21 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:04 am

Lawson 31/13 tonight with 3 steals. 10-19 from floor, 2-4 from 3.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#9 » by TYO23 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:22 pm

Grimes has had a disappointing season so far. But the best prospect on the team might be the least heralded recruit named Ochai Agbaji. Kid is a late bloomer and around 6’6..really athletic looks to has a nice shot and has the tools to be a good defender.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#10 » by clyde21 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:12 pm

TYO23 wrote:Grimes has had a disappointing season so far. But the best prospect on the team might be the least heralded recruit named Ochai Agbaji. Kid is a late bloomer and around 6’6..really athletic looks to has a nice shot and has the tools to be a good defender.


he was literally just called up. he was supposed to be redshirted but then the Buike injury happened. he's a really intriguing athlete, but not sure how u can say he's Kansas' best prospect at this point.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#11 » by TheSuzerain » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:22 am

Marcus Garrett is an interesting one. High ceiling, although may not be realistic for him to ever develop an outside shot.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#12 » by clyde21 » Tue Jan 22, 2019 4:27 am

Lawson was absolutely ridiculous tonight. His post game is NBA-level in terms of footwork, post moves and touch. 13-17 tonight in his sleep, and made 2-2 from 3 to top it off.

hard to project because he's not a great athlete, isn't a rim protector and can't really play on the perimeter much, but dude's silky smooth in the post. maybe most sophisticated post scorer i've seen since Okafor.

baldur wrote:You can discuss these prospects here.

Lagerald Vick - SG - Senior
Dedric Lawson - PF - Junior
Udoka Azubuike - C - Junior


u gotta update thread title with actual prospects (Dotson/Grimes/Garrett/Lawson).
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#13 » by baldur » Tue Jan 22, 2019 5:00 am

baldur wrote:You can discuss these prospects here.

Lagerald Vick - SG - Senior
Dedric Lawson - PF - Junior
Udoka Azubuike - C - Junior


clyde21 wrote:
u gotta update thread title with actual prospects (Dotson/Grimes/Garrett/Lawson).

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I added who you suggested, didnt remove the previous names as they still exist in some mock drafts.
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Re: Kansas Prospects (Vick, Dotson, Grimes, Garrett, Lawson, Azubuike) 

Post#14 » by doordoor123 » Fri Feb 8, 2019 5:01 pm

Lagerald Vick (Roleplayer)
Dedric Lawson (Roleplayer/Starter depending on the team)
Udoka Azubuike (end of bench/G-League)
Quentin Grimes (Roleplayer/possible starter in time)
Devon Dotson (Roleplayer — Has the tools, but not the skill — maybe more in time)
Marcus Garrett (G-League)

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