Ochai Agbaji

[TYO23]

I think he’s definitely a good leaper off of two in space. I’d definitely consider him a good leaper but not great or freakish.

[MemphisX]

Needs skills. Good college player. Don't see good NBA player...yet.

[Stillwater]

wasn't expecting to see him this season... has been exactly what Kansas needed.
The BB iq seems pretty elite for a 18 yr old. pair that with his poise , size,length and freakish hops and you got a lottery pick.

Freakish hops? He doesn't stand out at all for me in terms of explosiveness at the rim. Doesn't seem like much of a leaper. Don't see a lotto pick in him this year. Too many holes in his games.

Best thing he's got going for him is his age and size for the 2guard. Young player in the age where freshmen are 19/20 yearsold.

However, I'm really not sure why he red shirted this year... he looks better than Quentin Grimes lol

completely disagree about the athleticism, not sure what your looking at.There are very little obvious "holes" in his game in the ltd. usage he has seen in Kansas offense I guess I can see why you would assume that since nobody has seen the entire arsenal. give it awhile it will sink in.

[clyde21]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

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[Hoopz Afrik]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

I'm really curious about how you define athleticism because some of your takes regarding players and athleticism are head scratching at best.

[doordoor123]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

I'm really curious about how you define athleticism because some of your takes regarding players and athleticism are head scratching at best.

He’s not an elite athlete in the way Kawhi isn’t an elite athlete, but Kawhi is definitely an elite athlete. I saw him get his head over the rim so I also don’t really get what he’s saying. But in terms of speed he isn’t the quickest, but like Kawhi, he has long strides that make him quicker.

[big-shot-ROB]

Got the same vibes from the poster above. He moves like Kawhi (not saying this its his comparison). But this way of moving, kind of stiff and mechanical, using the long arms, that looks bad but turns out to be effective. Just the first thing that popped out when I watched him.

[clyde21]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

I'm really curious about how you define athleticism because some of your takes regarding players and athleticism are head scratching at best.

He’s not an elite athlete in the way Kawhi isn’t an elite athlete, but Kawhi is definitely an elite athlete. I saw him get his head over the rim so I also don’t really get what he’s saying. But in terms of speed he isn’t the quickest, but like Kawhi, he has long strides that make him quicker.

part of the reason why I compared him to a mini Giannis earlier in the thread

[Stillwater]

I'm really curious about how you define athleticism because some of your takes regarding players and athleticism are head scratching at best.

He’s not an elite athlete in the way Kawhi isn’t an elite athlete, but Kawhi is definitely an elite athlete. I saw him get his head over the rim so I also don’t really get what he’s saying. But in terms of speed he isn’t the quickest, but like Kawhi, he has long strides that make him quicker.

part of the reason why I compared him to a mini Giannis earlier in the thread

when i run i have longer strides than when i sprint, just saying. To me it's indicative of what kind of athleticism he really has that is actually held in check by him to some degree otherwise he wouldn't be able to **** stop running.

[916fan]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

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https://streamable.com/vj3wx
https://streamable.com/o03ex
https://streamable.com/rkfbm

Come on.. this is nowhere near elite athlete.

This is what I would consider a good athlete:
https://streamable.com/7kgwu

That's Malik Beasley

[916fan]

wasn't expecting to see him this season... has been exactly what Kansas needed.
The BB iq seems pretty elite for a 18 yr old. pair that with his poise , size,length and freakish hops and you got a lottery pick.

Freakish hops? He doesn't stand out at all for me in terms of explosiveness at the rim. Doesn't seem like much of a leaper. Don't see a lotto pick in him this year. Too many holes in his games.

Best thing he's got going for him is his age and size for the 2guard. Young player in the age where freshmen are 19/20 yearsold.

However, I'm really not sure why he red shirted this year... he looks better than Quentin Grimes lol

completely disagree about the athleticism, not sure what your looking at.There are very little obvious "holes" in his game in the ltd. usage he has seen in Kansas offense I guess I can see why you would assume that since nobody has seen the entire arsenal. give it awhile it will sink in.

See my other post above. There's a giant hole in his game.. he can't handle the ball.

[clyde21]

He is fluid but he is not a high flyer or an elite athlete, more strong than anything, he reminds me of Mo Evans

He is KU's best prospect, but that ain't saying much, other than Lawson, I highly doubt any of the others declare this year, lotto for Agbaji is way too high, I'd have him 35-50 if he declares this year

Kansas should be good next year, esp if they get Hurt;

Dotson-Moore-McBride
Grimes-Garrett-Braun
Agbaji-Lawson
Hurt-Lightfoot-De Sousa
Azubuike-McCormack

Read on Twitter

https://streamable.com/vj3wx
https://streamable.com/o03ex
https://streamable.com/rkfbm

Come on.. this is nowhere near elite athlete.

This is what I would consider a good athlete:
https://streamable.com/7kgwu

That's Malik Beasley

i feel like we're not watching the same player tbh.

[clyde21]

Freakish hops? He doesn't stand out at all for me in terms of explosiveness at the rim. Doesn't seem like much of a leaper. Don't see a lotto pick in him this year. Too many holes in his games.

Best thing he's got going for him is his age and size for the 2guard. Young player in the age where freshmen are 19/20 yearsold.

However, I'm really not sure why he red shirted this year... he looks better than Quentin Grimes lol

completely disagree about the athleticism, not sure what your looking at.There are very little obvious "holes" in his game in the ltd. usage he has seen in Kansas offense I guess I can see why you would assume that since nobody has seen the entire arsenal. give it awhile it will sink in.

See my other post above. There's a giant hole in his game.. he can't handle the ball.

well, yea. we'll see how it develops as he's still super green.

but if he had a strong handle he might be the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the class, so there's that.

[Stillwater]

completely disagree about the athleticism, not sure what your looking at.There are very little obvious "holes" in his game in the ltd. usage he has seen in Kansas offense I guess I can see why you would assume that since nobody has seen the entire arsenal. give it awhile it will sink in.

See my other post above. There's a giant hole in his game.. he can't handle the ball.

well, yea. we'll see how it develops as he's still super green.

but if he had a strong handle he might be the 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the class, so there's that.

I mean if an elite handle is now a requirement for an off guard prospect in the lottery, I'm all ears... but that shouldn't dissuade teams from being enamored with the positives unless it's Phoenix looking for their point guard upgrade.
Besides it's not like the ball handling is poor per say, it's just not a strength.

[EvanZ]

I just had this weird thought that we're looking at Ben McLemore 2.0. I need to watch a lot more though.

[clyde21]

I just had this weird thought that we're looking at Ben McLemore 2.0. I need to watch a lot more though.

I can see some parallels there but B Mac was a 7th overall pick for a reason, too.

[EvanZ]

I just had this weird thought that we're looking at Ben McLemore 2.0. I need to watch a lot more though.

I can see some parallels there but B Mac was a 7th overall pick for a reason, too.

My point is I don't think we should hype this guy too much given that right now he's pretty raw.

[clyde21]

yea, I don't see a reason why Agbaji shouldn't be in everyone's lotto.

he's an elite handle away from being a top tier prospect, and even then the handle is actually quite functional as it is.

[GimmeDat]

Can someone give me the low-down on the hype? I've never watched him. Just searched up some clips and from what I can see, he looks like a good athlete, not as explosive as Ben Mac but pretty functional, frame looks smaller than BM's but possibly wirey-strong. The shooting %'s look good, his form looks fine but doesn't look like an elite or highly versatile shooter (at a glance).

That's my very immediate reaction to watching some of his highlights. What am I missing?

[eminence]

Tried to watch both Big XII games at the same time, and probably wound up watching more ISU v KS so wasn't super focused, but I don't think I'd say I came away super-impressed, certainly not lottery level impressed. Seems like he's a decently athletic (mostly strong) small wing with decent looking spot up shooting and plenty of defensive potential. Saw nothing in terms of handling/passing/shooting off movement.