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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#21 » by shakes0 » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:43 pm

Stillwater wrote:
shakes0 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:right now it looks like
Luka
JJJ
Kurucs
Carter
Young
Ayton
Bagley
M.Robinson
Huerter
Shamet

but there are a lot of injured players,
this is way too soon etc.
in 3 yrs if players begin to reach their potentials:
Luka
JJJ
Bagley
Sexton
Walker
Simons
SGA
Kurucs
Carter
Holiday


:lol: :lol: :lol: wow, you're not even trying to hide your anti-Trae agenda.

what's there to hide? I never liked him as a long term prospect.
I will give him credit for showing enough floor general ability to stay in the league for awhile,
but I still have no delusions about him being anything more than he is right now going forward.
He won't ever be a good let alone league avg status as a defender, and that fact by itself
completely kills his chances of being the lead guard on a championship contender.
Add the proven struggle with his low release etc that made me hate him as a prospect in the first place.
If you are going to pick a pg prospect in the high lottery, I'd take the one farther away with less
ability but higher upside and better length, than the one I know will never reach a high level
on both sides of the ball.


Man, I just hope Trae keeps improving so one day he can be as good as Aaron Holiday :lol: :lol: :lol:

I do admire the fact that you're not even trying to get off the sinking ship and are instead happily dumping buckets of water onto the deck.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#22 » by Stillwater » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:28 pm

shakes0 wrote:
Stillwater wrote:
shakes0 wrote:
:lol: :lol: :lol: wow, you're not even trying to hide your anti-Trae agenda.

what's there to hide? I never liked him as a long term prospect.
I will give him credit for showing enough floor general ability to stay in the league for awhile,
but I still have no delusions about him being anything more than he is right now going forward.
He won't ever be a good let alone league avg status as a defender, and that fact by itself
completely kills his chances of being the lead guard on a championship contender.
Add the proven struggle with his low release etc that made me hate him as a prospect in the first place.
If you are going to pick a pg prospect in the high lottery, I'd take the one farther away with less
ability but higher upside and better length, than the one I know will never reach a high level
on both sides of the ball.


Man, I just hope Trae keeps improving so one day he can be as good as Aaron Holiday :lol: :lol: :lol:

I do admire the fact that you're not even trying to get off the sinking ship and are instead happily dumping buckets of water onto the deck.

Yeah that was the one dig against Young on the list nice of you to pick up on it, and it wouldn't surprise me if Holiday was better longterm even though that aint saying much
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#23 » by NYKHardKnock » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:14 pm

Yeah. Replace Mitch with Knox.
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Post#24 » by atlantabbq99 » Sun Mar 3, 2019 8:24 pm

I still have Ayton as better than Luka Doncic and Trae Young. It is not Ayton's fault that Phoenix is a dysfunctional organization and Booker is a horrible teammate.

Last night's Lakers Suns games showed why Ayton is better than Doncic and Young.

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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#25 » by Coeur » Wed Mar 6, 2019 9:50 pm

oligo wrote:
clyde21 wrote:you're not gonna be able to judge Ayton until the Suns get a legit PG. Booker is not it.


Which PG is legit enough? Please check this list:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/02/08/nba-free-agency-2019-point-guards/

and throw me a few realistic names.

P.S.: I see only Terry Rozier, but I think he is on the radar of many teams because he is on a cheap contract.

Ricky Rubio or Elfrid Payton
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#26 » by oligo » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:04 pm

Coeur wrote:
oligo wrote:
clyde21 wrote:you're not gonna be able to judge Ayton until the Suns get a legit PG. Booker is not it.


Which PG is legit enough? Please check this list:

https://hoopshype.com/2019/02/08/nba-free-agency-2019-point-guards/

and throw me a few realistic names.

P.S.: I see only Terry Rozier, but I think he is on the radar of many teams because he is on a cheap contract.

Ricky Rubio or Elfrid Payton


Ricky Rubio? Hmm... The Jazz are 7-0 when he's not on roaster at all :) So yes, maybe he needs a fresh start.
Elfrid Payton would be a good selection. God bless the person who convinced him to do a haircut. :nod:
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Post#27 » by eminence » Fri Mar 8, 2019 4:07 pm

Think it's still too soon to bother with most of these, sure it's obvious some late 1sts/2nds/UDFA (Shamet/Robinson/Williams) guys should move up, but at the top the arguments are still largely the same they were before the draft, I doubt anyone has changed their tune too much.
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Post#28 » by septahex » Mon Mar 11, 2019 1:21 pm

Here is my final big board, note this was before reports of MPJs back injury being worse circulated before the draft.

1. Jaren Jackson, Jr.
2. Luka Doncic
3. Michael Porter, Jr.
4. Mo Bamba
5. Marvin Bagley III
6. DeAndre Ayton
7. Kevin Huerter
8. Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
9. Wendell Carter, Jr.
10. Miles Bridges
11. Trae Young
12. Kevin Knox
13. Moritz Wagner
14. Lonnie Walker IV
15. Anfernee Simons
16. Mikal Bridges
17. Donte DiVincenzo
18. Colin Sexton
19. Mitchell Robinson
...
29. Landry Shamet

My 1st redraft would be to take Luka over JJJ. Mrob and shamet into lottery, mo bamba drops. Trae ahead of huerter

1. Doncic
2. JJJ
3. MB3
4. Ayton
5. Young (+6)
6. Huerter
7. SGA
8. WCJ
9. MRobinson (+10)
10. Bamba (-6)
11. Shamet (+18)
12. Miles
13. Knox
14. MPJ
15. Wagner
Honourable mention to Trier.
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Post#29 » by EvanZ » Mon Mar 11, 2019 2:44 pm

My pre-draft board lottery:

  1. Doncic
  2. JJJ
  3. Miles
  4. Trae
  5. Ayton
  6. MPJ
  7. Bagley
  8. Huerter
  9. Zhaire
  10. Knox
  11. WCJ
  12. Williams
  13. Bamba
  14. Okogie

Re-draft today:

  1. Doncic
  2. JJJ
  3. Trae
  4. Ayton
  5. Huerter
  6. SGA
  7. WCJ
  8. Huerter
  9. Bagley
  10. Miles
  11. MPJ
  12. Zhaire
  13. Mikal
  14. Shamet
I was right about 3 point shooting. I expect to be right about Tacko Fall. Some coach will figure out how to use Tacko Fall. This movement towards undersized centers will sweep ng back. Back to the basket scorers will return to the NBA.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#30 » by clyde21 » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:00 pm

EvanZ wrote:My pre-draft board lottery:

  1. Doncic
  2. JJJ
  3. Miles
  4. Trae
  5. Ayton
  6. MPJ
  7. Bagley
  8. Huerter
  9. Zhaire
  10. Knox
  11. WCJ
  12. Williams
  13. Bamba
  14. Okogie

Re-draft today:

  1. Doncic
  2. JJJ
  3. Trae
  4. Ayton
  5. Huerter
  6. SGA
  7. WCJ
  8. Huerter
  9. Bagley
  10. Miles
  11. MPJ
  12. Zhaire
  13. Mikal
  14. Shamet


man you really like Huerter :wink:

this is way too early for any of this anyways.

if you asked about the 2017 draft last year, it'd be different than what it would be today.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#31 » by Stillwater » Tue Mar 12, 2019 5:02 pm

I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#32 » by EvanZ » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:00 pm

Stillwater wrote:I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.


Does that make him a 6MOY candidate some day?
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Post#33 » by doordoor123 » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:14 pm

Everyone is sleeping on everyone. It’s way too early to redraft. Wait 3 years and repost this. I’m looking for the 2015 redraft thread.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#34 » by Stillwater » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:38 pm

EvanZ wrote:
Stillwater wrote:I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.


Does that make him a 6MOY candidate some day?

who knows too soon to tell, but the way he has played of late I would think he could be on track to having a starting gig for a long time. 6th man might make some sense though given his scoring ability and need for refinement as a distributor.
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Post#35 » by 916fan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 7:10 am

Stillwater wrote:I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.

Apologies if I'm mistaking you for another Cavs fan on here, but a month ago someone said he looked like nothing except for a role player. Seems like everyone is just too low on Sexton. I was pretty high on him out of Alabama. I think he still has a good amount of flaws, but you have to remember he's only 20 yearsold. In a redraft, he probably goes to Orlando or Chicago at 6/7.
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Post#36 » by doordoor123 » Wed Mar 13, 2019 2:28 pm

916fan wrote:
Stillwater wrote:I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.

Apologies if I'm mistaking you for another Cavs fan on here, but a month ago someone said he looked like nothing except for a role player. Seems like everyone is just too low on Sexton. I was pretty high on him out of Alabama. I think he still has a good amount of flaws, but you have to remember he's only 20 yearsold. In a redraft, he probably goes to Orlando or Chicago at 6/7.


Exactly, but Sexton can be much better than he is. What he’s doing for a rookie is really good. He only has up from here. And I belive he wants to be great, so he will. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have the confidence to do what he’s doing now.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#37 » by Stillwater » Wed Mar 13, 2019 3:20 pm

doordoor123 wrote:
916fan wrote:
Stillwater wrote:I know nobody has been watching CLE , but y'all are sleeping on Sexton not even listing him in the lottery. He will never be the floor general that Rondo is , but his game is already going to the next level now that he is figuring out how to take advantage of his ability to blow past anyone.

Apologies if I'm mistaking you for another Cavs fan on here, but a month ago someone said he looked like nothing except for a role player. Seems like everyone is just too low on Sexton. I was pretty high on him out of Alabama. I think he still has a good amount of flaws, but you have to remember he's only 20 yearsold. In a redraft, he probably goes to Orlando or Chicago at 6/7.


Exactly, but Sexton can be much better than he is. What he’s doing for a rookie is really good. He only has up from here. And I belive he wants to be great, so he will. If he didn’t, he wouldn’t have the confidence to do what he’s doing now.

The way I see it his floor is already much much higher than it looked to be coming in. the amount desire and passion to become better is fast-forwarding his progression.Just in the past several games with a floor stretcher like Love, you can see how much better Sexton is in space. The Cavs have had so many injuries all season it was difficult to get a good read on his impact overall besides stuff that doesn't show up in the box score. Now he is taking advantage of his speed much smarter & raising the bar being used off ball in a lot of sets and expanding his game even further. If the ceiling is as high as it looks to be the timeline for his reaching it could come in 2 yrs instead of 4 the way he is trending.
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#38 » by Cactus Jack » Sun Jun 9, 2019 1:39 am

Doncic
Young
Ayton
SGA
Porter
Mikal Bridges
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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#39 » by pootbrah » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:26 pm

Cactus Jack wrote:Doncic
Ayton
Young
Bagley
Jackson
Robinson
Carter
Bamba
SGA
Miles Bridges/Sexton
Doncic
Coin toss or positional of any of Ayton, Young, Bagley and Jackson with probably slight edge for myself to Jackson due to defensive potential but then in my next breath I really do like Young running a team in today's game.
I'd probably still take Bamba 6th too, maybe consider SGA.

Crazy how well teams drafted this year. Only one I really question is PHX and Sac passing on Luka especially giving coach and GM situations. Can't hate on their consolation prize though


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Re: Redrafting The 2018 NBA Draft 

Post#40 » by petebraun0 » Mon Jun 17, 2019 2:31 pm

oligo wrote:1) Luka Doncic
2) Jaren Jackson Jr.
3) Trae Young
4) DeAndre Ayton
5) Marvin Bagley
6) Shai Gilgeous Alexander
7) Kevin Heurter
8) Wendell Carter Jr.
9) Collin Sexton
10) Mikal Bridges

I'm getting more and more excited about Kevin Heurter. That guy was an absolute steal of the draft. He still has many slumps, but if he manages to fix his 3PT, he can be lethal.

Young & Ayton really can't be compared, since skillset of one is a complete opposite of the other. But right now, it looks like Trae could have a higher impact on the game.


Any team have a better young core than Atlanta?

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