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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#501 » by Alatan » Fri Jul 5, 2019 1:38 pm

Health permit, how do you think that Bol Bol translates as a power forward?
Here is what i think.
On offense:
He has a really good touch/ shooting ability that numbers back up. At minimum he is a huge lob threat and projects as a pretty good floor spacer. I can see him being a finesse player in the paint that relies on length, touch and skill. Could be dangerous on the offensive boards with that massive reach. When oportunity permits he can put the ball on the floor against bigger slower players but im not sure it will be a major part of his game. He showed glimpses of passing ability and could develop it further playing alongside Jokic and Denvers system. Come to think of it Denver is the best place to develop a 7 2 guy with perimeter skills.

On defense:
He will be a good rim protector. I hope he has the motor and awareness to be a great help defender. He showed some impressive moments guarding on the perimeter but he cant guard smaller (3-1) players full time. Lack of strength and mass make it hard for him to guard real Cs but i think that he can guard PFs with his length and agility. PF wont have much weigh against him while he will have a huge reach advantage. He is pretty coordinated and can keep up against wings and even if he gets blown by his wingspan gives him a huge recovery radius. He wont be great at grabbing defensive boards on his own but next to some strong box out players he will vacume in all the boards available. He looks to have a good awareness on the court but there are questions about his motor. I hope he makes major strides in that area due to Denvers altitude and natural physical development.

In my opinion he, Jokic and Denvers system fit really well together.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#502 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Jul 5, 2019 7:23 pm

He isnt a PF. He simply doesnt have the feet or lateral agility to guard the vast majority of PFs in this game.

He should be seen as the long term backup to Jokic and, if he really pans out, likely top tier trade bait.

But both Jokic and Bol are strictly centers in this league because of defensive liabilities.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#503 » by JH5 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:38 pm

So rumors are Denver are going to offer him a 2-way contract. If he doesn't accept a two-way, what happens next?
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#504 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:44 pm

JH5 wrote:So rumors are Denver are going to offer him a 2-way contract. If he doesn't accept a two-way, what happens next?


he'll accept it, and spend the year getting healthier and stronger
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#505 » by JH5 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:56 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:So rumors are Denver are going to offer him a 2-way contract. If he doesn't accept a two-way, what happens next?


he'll accept it, and spend the year getting healthier and stronger

totally get it!

What happens if a second rounder is only offered a two way contract? What are the options for the team and player from there?
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Post#506 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:09 pm

JH5 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:So rumors are Denver are going to offer him a 2-way contract. If he doesn't accept a two-way, what happens next?


he'll accept it, and spend the year getting healthier and stronger

totally get it!

What happens if a second rounder is only offered a two way contract? What are the options for the team and player from there?


what do u mean? the majority of 2nd rounders are *only* offered a two-way, just means that they'll be spending some time in the G League.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#507 » by JH5 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:14 pm

clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
he'll accept it, and spend the year getting healthier and stronger

totally get it!

What happens if a second rounder is only offered a two way contract? What are the options for the team and player from there?


what do u mean? the majority of 2nd rounders are *only* offered a two-way, just means that they'll be spending some time in the G League.

Well, prior to two years ago, majority were offered minimum contracts (which were more than two way contracts).

If a second rounder believed they’re worth more than a two way contract, but the team doesn’t do they relinquish their rights?
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Post#508 » by Stillwater » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:19 pm

Denver learning from their mistake with MPJ … make Bol earn the right to play not be handed it.
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Post#509 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 13, 2019 5:23 pm

JH5 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:totally get it!

What happens if a second rounder is only offered a two way contract? What are the options for the team and player from there?


what do u mean? the majority of 2nd rounders are *only* offered a two-way, just means that they'll be spending some time in the G League.

Well, prior to two years ago, majority were offered minimum contracts (which were more than two way contracts).

If a second rounder believed they’re worth more than a two way contract, but the team doesn’t do they relinquish their rights?


well that's because two-way contracts are a new thing, believe it started in 2017...since then the majority of 2nd rounders are signed to two-ways to, again, be able to play on both the NBA team and the G League team accordingly.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#510 » by guille_4 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:21 am

clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
what do u mean? the majority of 2nd rounders are *only* offered a two-way, just means that they'll be spending some time in the G League.

Well, prior to two years ago, majority were offered minimum contracts (which were more than two way contracts).

If a second rounder believed they’re worth more than a two way contract, but the team doesn’t do they relinquish their rights?



well that's because two-way contracts are a new thing, believe it started in 2017...since then the majority of 2nd rounders are signed to two-ways to, again, be able to play on both the NBA team and the G League team accordingly.


But their salary is way lower, isn't it? Before they made more than 600K and now most of them make less than 120K.

Are they forced to play for the teams that drafted them for only 75K guaranteed? I guess if it's just one year or two year contracts, it isn't that big of a deal.
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Post#511 » by nolang1 » Wed Aug 21, 2019 5:01 pm

guille_4 wrote:
clyde21 wrote:
JH5 wrote:Well, prior to two years ago, majority were offered minimum contracts (which were more than two way contracts).

If a second rounder believed they’re worth more than a two way contract, but the team doesn’t do they relinquish their rights?



well that's because two-way contracts are a new thing, believe it started in 2017...since then the majority of 2nd rounders are signed to two-ways to, again, be able to play on both the NBA team and the G League team accordingly.


But their salary is way lower, isn't it? Before they made more than 600K and now most of them make less than 120K.

Are they forced to play for the teams that drafted them for only 75K guaranteed? I guess if it's just one year or two year contracts, it isn't that big of a deal.


If he's on the NBA roster for 45 days he makes about 200k. I would suspect an extra $125k is small potatoes for Denver and they'd work to get him that even if he's not fully healthy yet, and from Bol's perspective I'm sure hitting free agency sooner is a priority.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#512 » by Coeur » Tue Aug 27, 2019 2:17 am

Stillwater wrote:Denver learning from their mistake with MPJ … make Bol earn the right to play not be handed it.

Huh? Mpj has never played
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Post#513 » by Stillwater » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:30 pm

Coeur wrote:
Stillwater wrote:Denver learning from their mistake with MPJ … make Bol earn the right to play not be handed it.

Huh? Mpj has never played

exactly... they over picked MPJ a injury prone overrated prospect who isn't able to play let alone earn it, and took a gamble on a similarly hyped and similarly good offensive player but did not over pick him and certainly didn't pay him before he earned it if he can ...
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#514 » by clyde21 » Tue Aug 27, 2019 4:47 pm

MPJ was/is worth the risk @ 14, same for Bol.
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Re: Bol Bol 

Post#515 » by Stillwater » Tue Aug 27, 2019 8:56 pm

[quote="clyde21"]MPJ was/is worth the risk @ 14, same for Bol.[/quote]
not with Mitch Robinson on the board who was just as much of a boom bust option but with zero injury factors.

Kurucs and Shamet already look way better than their draft spots and were worth the 14th pick or close to it.

MPJ was always overrated as a nba prospect though I mean he never should have been in the top pick range, so my bias is heavy against him. I completely disagree with those who think a
iso dominant scorer with no handles, & worst no historical interest in playing team basketball or defense then when you factor in and add the injury history and terrible family injury history etc and he just was never the player people wanted to be when they hyped him up so much.
I think they wasted the pick . Bol might be a wasted pick too for that matter but they didn't pay for it and nobody else available was passed on due to it.
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