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absolutely uncanny that a 7-3 guy can move like that, easily a top 5 talent, one of most unique prospects in decades.
any team that passes on him (sans Zion) is passing on an Embiid-like situation. good luck.
any team that passes on him (sans Zion) is passing on an Embiid-like situation. good luck.
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clyde21 wrote:absolutely uncanny that a 7-3 guy can move like that, easily a top 5 talent, one of most unique prospects in decades.
any team that passes on him (sans Zion) is passing on an Embiid-like situation. good luck.
Has anyone ever not look good against being defended by air? When posters such as yourself get so caught up in videos like this is the very definition of being “captive of the moment”.
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gundysmullet wrote:clyde21 wrote:absolutely uncanny that a 7-3 guy can move like that, easily a top 5 talent, one of most unique prospects in decades.
any team that passes on him (sans Zion) is passing on an Embiid-like situation. good luck.
Has anyone ever not look good against being defended by air? When posters such as yourself get so caught up in videos like this is the very definition of being “captive of the moment”.
Captive of the moment? look at my draft thread, I've had Bol as the #2 prospect in this class the entire time, has nothing to do with this vid.
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clyde21 wrote:gundysmullet wrote:clyde21 wrote:absolutely uncanny that a 7-3 guy can move like that, easily a top 5 talent, one of most unique prospects in decades.
any team that passes on him (sans Zion) is passing on an Embiid-like situation. good luck.
Has anyone ever not look good against being defended by air? When posters such as yourself get so caught up in videos like this is the very definition of being “captive of the moment”.
Captive of the moment? look at my draft thread, I've had Bol as the #2 prospect in this class the entire time, has nothing to do with this vid.
OK, fair enough then. My apologies
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Cylde's definitely been on the Bol train.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
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GimmeDat wrote:Cylde's definitely been on the Bol train.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
Mo Bamba looked amazing in workouts too; 1-on-0 is the optimal setting for both players offensively because they're awful at setting screens. Both are the types of players who aren't going to provide much value during their rookie contract; I'd rather just offer Bol a big contract in restricted free agency if he turns out to be decent than draft him and spend 2-3 years just waiting for him to possibly handle the physicality at the 5.
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nolang1 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:Cylde's definitely been on the Bol train.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
Mo Bamba looked amazing in workouts too; 1-on-0 is the optimal setting for both players offensively because they're awful at setting screens. Both are the types of players who aren't going to provide much value during their rookie contract; I'd rather just offer Bol a big contract in restricted free agency if he turns out to be decent than draft him and spend 2-3 years just waiting for him to possibly handle the physicality at the 5.
I mean I know it was only 9 games but he averaged 21-10-3 on elite efficiency. Everything he did in the workout he did in game in his short stint. He will make an impact day 1 if he stays healthy. Hopefully at #10 to the Hawks.
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nolang1 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:Cylde's definitely been on the Bol train.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
Mo Bamba looked amazing in workouts too; 1-on-0 is the optimal setting for both players offensively because they're awful at setting screens. Both are the types of players who aren't going to provide much value during their rookie contract; I'd rather just offer Bol a big contract in restricted free agency if he turns out to be decent than draft him and spend 2-3 years just waiting for him to possibly handle the physicality at the 5.
I still think Mo will turn out to be a good NBA player. He was always a massive project coming in, I thought he was impressively productive with that considered.
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nolang1 wrote:GimmeDat wrote:Cylde's definitely been on the Bol train.
I always had him mid-lottery, but I lowered him just outside the lottery recently. I agree the upside is extremely good, but idk, I guess I just wouldn't want to be the team taking a risk on him. I think I might move him up again some though, something is to be said for pure upside. This is the problem with having too much time to look in to guys, or looking in to them and then not seeing them for a while and second guessing yourself.
He was always going to look amazing in workouts though, we knew that.
Mo Bamba looked amazing in workouts too; 1-on-0 is the optimal setting for both players offensively because they're awful at setting screens. Both are the types of players who aren't going to provide much value during their rookie contract; I'd rather just offer Bol a big contract in restricted free agency if he turns out to be decent than draft him and spend 2-3 years just waiting for him to possibly handle the physicality at the 5.
Mo Bamba was raw, but another issue was that he really did not fit a role on that Magic team this year with so many bigs on the roster so there really wasn't much reason to trot him out there as a rookie, especially once they started making a PO push.
also, Bol is just a much, much more sophisticated offensive player than Bamba
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I rank the top 20 prospects every year, and I've got Bol Bol 3rd this year. Not a fan of Barrett game and don't see much upside in Garland, Culver, Hunter, or White. Last year they would have gone in the 10-20 range. Huge mistake if he drops below this group, could end up being the best player in the draft.
Last 2 years the players I was highest on relative to mocks were Mitchell Robinson and Derrick White, this year its Bol Bol.
Last 2 years the players I was highest on relative to mocks were Mitchell Robinson and Derrick White, this year its Bol Bol.
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so, how many 7+ ft guys in the history of the NBA can pull off this sequence here?
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clyde21 wrote:so, how many 7+ ft guys in the history of the NBA can pull off this sequence here?
Probably a few at least, but just because it's rare doesn't make it valuable by itself. He blocked a shot on the perimeter, which plenty of 7 footers could have done, and from there he dribbled the ball upcourt into a contested midrange jumper early in the shot clock which happened to go in. Like it's probably a good trade-off to have someone who's strong enough to box out NBA 5s and set solid screens even if it means they'll just outlet the ball to a guard rather than dribble it up to take a contested midranger themselves.
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That shot selection was as horrendous as the skill was evident on that replay, Clyde.
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Came in here to see what you guys think of Bol as a player. I'd been conflicted as hell about him because he seems like he would be a mismatch for many NBA centers on offense, but get absolutely obliterated on defense on the other end. Even though OKC will probably trade the pick this year, it wouldn't displease me to get him. Part of me feels there is no way he would still be available, but Bol seems polarizing enough that enough teams could be scared off to bring him within range.
The views on him in here seem to be pretty varied as well.
The views on him in here seem to be pretty varied as well.
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GreatWhiteStiff wrote:That shot selection was as horrendous as the skill was evident on that replay, Clyde.
u can teach shot selection, u can't teach what he can do at 7-2
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New Orleans has to think hard about Bolbol at 4 or wonder if they can trade back and still get him?
It’s Goga and Bolbol as only pelicans picks possible @4?
Pelicans perfect situation is trading 4 for 8 & 10 and getting 2 of Bolbol/Goga/Hayes/Clarke/Claxton
It’s Goga and Bolbol as only pelicans picks possible @4?
Pelicans perfect situation is trading 4 for 8 & 10 and getting 2 of Bolbol/Goga/Hayes/Clarke/Claxton
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Coeur wrote:New Orleans has to think hard about Bolbol at 4 or wonder if they can trade back and still get him?
It’s Goga and Bolbol as only pelicans picks possible @4?
Pelicans perfect situation is trading 4 for 8 & 10 and getting 2 of Bolbol/Goga/Hayes/Clarke/Claxton
If the Pels want Bol, they should absolutely trade back. At he earliest he is going late lotto.
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He was MVP of EYBL, no?
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TheSuzerain wrote:He was MVP of EYBL, no?
yup