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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#101 » by Fischella » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:54 am

I

Zion Williamson

II

Jarrett Culver
R.J. Barrett
Ja Morant
Brandon Clarke
Goga Bitadze

III

Darius Garland
Tyler Herro
Grant Williams
PJ Washington
Sekou Doumbouya
Coby White
Cameron Reddish
De'Andre Hunter
Matisse Thybulle
Nicolas Claxton
Jaxson Hayes
Carsen Edwards
Talen Horton-Tucker
Jontay Porter
Chuma Okeke
Romeo Langford
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#102 » by clyde21 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 4:35 am

most likely my final one:

1. Zion Williamson, PF, Duke

2. Bol Bol, C, Oregon
3. R.J. Barrett, SG, Duke
4. Darius Garland, PG, Vanderbilt
5. Sekou Doumbouya, PF, Limoges
6. Coby White, PG/SG, North Carolina
7. Ja Morant, PG, Murray St.

8. Jaxson Hayes, C, Texas
9. Talen Horton-Tucker, PG/SG, Iowa St.
10. Cameron Reddish, SF, Duke
11. Jarrett Culver, SG/SF, Texas Tech
12. Goga Bitadze, C, Mega Bemax
13. De'Andre Hunter, SF/PF, Viginia
14. Kevin Porter Jr., SG, USC
15. Tyler Herro, SG, Kentucky
16. P.J. Washington, PF, Kentucky

17. Rui Hachimura, SF/PF, Gonzaga
18. Brandon Clarke, PF/C, Gonzaga
19. Mfiondu Kabengele, PF/C, Florida St.
20. Romeo Langford, SG, Indiana
21. Carsen Edwards, PG, Purdue
22. Matisse Thybulle, SG/SF, Washington
23. Chuma Okeke, SF/PF, Auburn
24. Grant Williams, PF, Tennessee
25. Ignas Brazdeikis, SF, Michigan
26. Nicolas Claxton, C, Georgia
27. Jontay Porter, PF/C, Missouri
28. Jalen Lecque, PG, Brewster Academy
29. Darius Bazley, SF/PF, G League
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#103 » by Stillwater » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:12 am

clyde21 wrote:most likely my final one:

1. Zion Williamson, PF, Duke

2. Bol Bol, C, Oregon
3. R.J. Barrett, SG, Duke
4. Darius Garland, PG, Vanderbilt
5. Sekou Doumbouya, PF, Limoges
6. Coby White, PG/SG, North Carolina
7. Ja Morant, PG, Murray St.

8. Jaxson Hayes, C, Texas
9. Talen Horton-Tucker, PG/SG, Iowa St.
10. Cameron Reddish, SF, Duke
11. Jarrett Culver, SG/SF, Texas Tech
12. Goga Bitadze, C, Mega Bemax
13. De'Andre Hunter, SF/PF, Viginia
14. Kevin Porter Jr., SG, USC
15. Tyler Herro, SG, Kentucky
16. P.J. Washington, PF, Kentucky

17. Rui Hachimura, SF/PF, Gonzaga
18. Brandon Clarke, PF/C, Gonzaga
19. Mfiondu Kabengele, PF/C, Florida St.
20. Romeo Langford, SG, Indiana
21. Carsen Edwards, PG, Purdue
22. Matisse Thybulle, SG/SF, Washington
23. Chuma Okeke, SF/PF, Auburn
24. Grant Williams, PF, Tennessee
25. Ignas Brazdeikis, SF, Michigan
26. Nicolas Claxton, C, Georgia
27. Jontay Porter, PF/C, Missouri
28. Jalen Lecque, PG, Brewster Academy
29. Darius Bazley, SF/PF, G League

surprised you are standing firm with Bol that high
has there been any public info regarding his foot and future complication concerns if any?
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#104 » by clyde21 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 5:17 am

none that i've seen one way or the other, and admittedly he's a risky pick so I can see him dropping depending how risk averse teams are...but I'm a believer in the talent and ceiling if he can stay healthy.
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Post#105 » by eminence » Sun Jun 9, 2019 5:10 pm

Trying to put together a 3rd tier, probably adding a fair number of guys and a couple of guys down from tier 2. We'll see if we get it done.

Edit: Ehh, scrap the tier 3, but I will move couple guys down out of tier 2.5 (NAW/Thybulle). In alphabetical order within tier this time. Last one, I'm excited for the draft to see where guys wind up.

Tier 1
Williamson

Tier 2
Culver
Hunter
Washington
Williams

Tier 2.5
Barrett
Bol
Clarke
Edwards
THT
Morant
White
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#106 » by Fischella » Mon Jun 10, 2019 10:44 pm

Zion Williamson (1)

Jarrett Culver (5-10)
Brandon Clarke (10-20)

Tyler Herro (10-20)
Goga Bitadze (10-20)
PJ Washington (10-20)
Grant Williams (20-35)
Matisse Thybulle (20-35)
Carsen Edwards (20-35)
Nicolas Claxton (20-35)
Chuma Okeke (20-35)
Jontay Porter (30-45)

Talen Horton-Tucker (30-45)
Ignas Brazdeikis (30-45)
Terence Davis (30-45)
Cody Martin (45+)
Isaiah Roby (45+)
Yovel Zoosman (45+)
Jaylen Hoard (45+)
Charles Matthews (45+)
Didi Louzada (45+)
Alen Smailagic (45+)
Dedric Lawson (45+)
Sagaba Konate (45+)
Miye Oni (45+)
Joshua Obiesie (45+)
Adam Mokoka (45+)
Tremont Waters (45+)
Jordan Bone (45+)
Justin Robinson (45+)
Sergi García (55-60)

These are the players I am interested in, in terms of value in this class, the rest I'd not draft

(...) it's their projected draft position and/or where I'd not hesitate to consider them/jump the gun and go grab them
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#107 » by Coeur » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:25 am

Fischella wrote:Zion Williamson (1)

Jarrett Culver (5-10)
Brandon Clarke (10-20)

Tyler Herro (10-20)
Goga Bitadze (10-20)
PJ Washington (10-20)
Grant Williams (20-35)
Matisse Thybulle (20-35)
Carsen Edwards (20-35)
Nicolas Claxton (20-35)
Chuma Okeke (20-35)
Jontay Porter (30-45)

Talen Horton-Tucker (30-45)
Ignas Brazdeikis (30-45)
Terence Davis (30-45)
Cody Martin (45+)
Isaiah Roby (45+)
Yovel Zoosman (45+)
Jaylen Hoard (45+)
Charles Matthews (45+)
Didi Louzada (45+)
Alen Smailagic (45+)
Dedric Lawson (45+)
Sagaba Konate (45+)
Miye Oni (45+)
Joshua Obiesie (45+)
Adam Mokoka (45+)
Tremont Waters (45+)
Jordan Bone (45+)
Justin Robinson (45+)
Sergi García (55-60)

These are the players I am interested in, in terms of value in this class, the rest I'd not draft

(...) it's their projected draft position and/or where I'd not hesitate to consider them/jump the gun and go grab them

Huge respect anytime someone has their own original standings. I’m with you on Clarke, Thybulle and a lot of other parts


Of course I disagree with you on KZ and Rui and some others. That parts fine. I think it’s a huge cop out to just leave guys “you don’t want to draft” out of the lists. There’s a bunch of guys that we all don’t like. None of us are drafting so it’s more interesting to see where you rank “guys you don’t like” than just leaving them out


If we are talking about where the consensus projections are there are a tone of guys I don’t like. Hayes, white, garland, grant williams...... I don’t want my teams to pick them as high as they’re projected, but I know they’re value somewhere


Or I’m just understanding you wrong and you think there’s 40,50,60 guys better than KZ or Rui or some of the others you won’t rank. Grant Williams your #7 and KZ or Rui not on your list is going to look terrible
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#108 » by Fischella » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:29 am

Oh I do think there are 60 guys better than KZ pretty easily yeah, other than that you understood me correctly

I'd have Rui ranked towards the end of my top30, he is also likely going 15 spots higher than that
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#109 » by Coeur » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:39 am

Fischella wrote:Oh I do think there are 60 guys better than KZ pretty easily yeah, other than that you understood me correctly

I'd have Rui ranked towards the end of my top30, he is also likely going 15 spots higher than that

Ouch. Not worried about convincing you but sure you’re missing on KZ


You love Cody Martin. Is Jordan Caroline an NBA player?


Louis the King? Projected in the 2nd. Joe can you not list him?


I’m always convinced most of the people with really odd evaluations of PAC and western players either aren’t allowed to stay up late enough or can’t afford DVR’s so when it’s clear someone puts a bunch of time in I’m always more curious for opinions. Caroline, King, Wooten, lu Dort , and KZ are all guys im paying attention to guys like franks, boatright, or Justin James or the utah st big
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#110 » by Fischella » Tue Jun 11, 2019 12:42 am

Caroline is terrible on defense

King is probably going 25-40, too rich for me, I am not particulary high on the guy
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#111 » by nolang1 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 4:36 am

Zion Williamson
----
Ja Morant
RJ Barrett
De'Andre Hunter
Jaxson Hayes
Darius Garland
Jarrett Culver
Sekou Dombouya
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Grant Williams
Brandon Clarke
Goga Bitadze
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PJ Washington
Luka Samanic
Coby White
Talen Horton-Tucker
Shamorie Ponds
Nassir Little
Cam Reddish
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Chuma Okeke
Nickeil Alexander-Walker
Matisse Thbyulle
Jontay Porter
Darius Bazley
Romeo Langford
Joshua Obiesie
Nic Claxton
Tyler Herro
Bol Bol
Mfiondu Kabengele
Cameron Johnson
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Jalen McDaniels
Dylan Windler
Kevin Porter
Zach Norvell
Terence Davis
Carsen Edwards
Admiral Schofield
KZ Okpala
Alen Smailagic
Louis King
Bruno Fernando
Ty Jerome
Rui Hachimura
Keldon Johnson
Jon Konchar
Daniel Gafford
Luguentz Dort
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#112 » by Dat2U » Tue Jun 11, 2019 5:38 pm

As of 6/11.

Tier 1A

1. F Zion Williamson

Tier 1B

2. G Ja Morant

Tier 2

None

Tier 3

3. G Darius Garland
4. G/F R.J. Barrett

Tier 4

5. C Goga Bitadze
6. C Bol Bol
7. G Tyler Herro
8. F Sekou Doumbouya
9. F Brandon Clarke
10. F P.J. Washington
12. G Nickeil Alexander-Walker
13. C Mfiondu Kabengele
14. F De'Andre Hunter
15. G Coby White
16. G/F Jarrett Culver
17. F Luka Samanic
18. F Grant Williams
19. C Jaxson Hayes

Tier 5

20. F Dylan Windler
21. F Matisse Thybulle
22. G Ty Jerome
23. C Jontay Porter
24. C Bruno Fernando
25. F Chuma Okeke
26. F Keldon Johnson
27. G Shamorie Ponds
28. C Borisa Simanic

Tier 6

29. F Darius Bazley
30. F Terance Mann
31. F Nassir Little
32. G/F Talen Horton-Tucker
33. F Cam Reddish
34. C Daniel Gafford
35. F Romeo Langford
36. C Nic Claxton
37. F Rui Hachimura
38. F Louis King
39. F Cameron Johnson
40. F KZ Okpala
41. G Kevin Porter Jr.

Tier 7

42. F Dedric Lawson
43. C Ethan Happ
44. G Carsen Edwards
45. F Eric Paschall
46 G Charles Matthews
47. F Isaiah Roby
48. G Luguentz Dort
49. G Tremont Waters
50. F Jalen McDaniels
51. G Zach Norvell
52. F Admiral Schofield
53. G Joshua Obiesie
54. C Sagaba Konate
55. G Jalen Lecque
56. C Naz Reid
57. G C.J. Massinburg
58. F Yovel Zoosman
59. F Iggy Brazdeikis
60. F DaQuan Jeffries
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#113 » by clyde21 » Tue Jun 11, 2019 11:37 pm

probably gonna end up moving Herro into my top 10 at this point, I've convinced myself he's that good, and Sekou should probably be in everyone's top 5.
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Re: Personal Big Board thread 

Post#114 » by clyde21 » Thu Jun 13, 2019 7:00 pm

this is my final rankings...29 total i'm ranking, in tiers.

1 Zion Williamson

2 Bol Bol

3 R.J. Barrett
4 Darius Garland
5 Sekou Doumbouya
6 Coby White
7 Jarrett Culver

8 Ja Morant
9 Tyler Herro
10 De'Andre Hunter
11 Jaxson Hayes
12 P.J. Washington
13 Talen Horton-Tucker
14 Cameron Reddish
15 Carsen Edwards
16 Goga Bitadze

17 Matisse Thybulle
18 Brandon Clarke
19 Kevin Porter Jr.
20 Romeo Langford
21 Mfiondu Kabengele
22 Nicolas Claxton
23 Grant Williams
24 Chuma Okeke
25 Rui Hachimura
26 Iggy Brazdeikis
27 Jontay Porter
28 Darius Bazley
29 Jalen Lecque
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Post#115 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:31 pm

clyde21 wrote:this is my final rankings...29 total i'm ranking, in tiers.

1 Zion Williamson

2 Bol Bol

3 R.J. Barrett
4 Darius Garland
5 Sekou Doumbouya
6 Coby White
7 Jarrett Culver

8 Ja Morant
9 Tyler Herro
10 De'Andre Hunter
11 Jaxson Hayes
12 P.J. Washington
13 Talen Horton-Tucker
14 Cameron Reddish
15 Carsen Edwards
16 Goga Bitadze

17 Matisse Thybulle
18 Brandon Clarke
19 Kevin Porter Jr.
20 Romeo Langford
21 Mfiondu Kabengele
22 Nicolas Claxton
23 Grant Williams
24 Chuma Okeke
25 Rui Hachimura
26 Iggy Brazdeikis
27 Jontay Porter
28 Darius Bazley
29 Jalen Lecque

Forgot to put NAS in there somewhere
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Post#116 » by clyde21 » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:39 pm

MotownMadness wrote:
clyde21 wrote:this is my final rankings...29 total i'm ranking, in tiers.

1 Zion Williamson

2 Bol Bol

3 R.J. Barrett
4 Darius Garland
5 Sekou Doumbouya
6 Coby White
7 Jarrett Culver

8 Ja Morant
9 Tyler Herro
10 De'Andre Hunter
11 Jaxson Hayes
12 P.J. Washington
13 Talen Horton-Tucker
14 Cameron Reddish
15 Carsen Edwards
16 Goga Bitadze

17 Matisse Thybulle
18 Brandon Clarke
19 Kevin Porter Jr.
20 Romeo Langford
21 Mfiondu Kabengele
22 Nicolas Claxton
23 Grant Williams
24 Chuma Okeke
25 Rui Hachimura
26 Iggy Brazdeikis
27 Jontay Porter
28 Darius Bazley
29 Jalen Lecque

Forgot to put NAS in there somewhere


i don't have he, keldon, naw, kezie, etc. ranked at this point, they'd probably be in the next group if I had to rank them but it's quite convoluted at that point and it would depend on where you want to go...just don't see enough of a projection to the next level to really make a claim.
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Post#117 » by MotownMadness » Fri Jun 14, 2019 4:40 pm

clyde21 wrote:
MotownMadness wrote:
clyde21 wrote:this is my final rankings...29 total i'm ranking, in tiers.

1 Zion Williamson

2 Bol Bol

3 R.J. Barrett
4 Darius Garland
5 Sekou Doumbouya
6 Coby White
7 Jarrett Culver

8 Ja Morant
9 Tyler Herro
10 De'Andre Hunter
11 Jaxson Hayes
12 P.J. Washington
13 Talen Horton-Tucker
14 Cameron Reddish
15 Carsen Edwards
16 Goga Bitadze

17 Matisse Thybulle
18 Brandon Clarke
19 Kevin Porter Jr.
20 Romeo Langford
21 Mfiondu Kabengele
22 Nicolas Claxton
23 Grant Williams
24 Chuma Okeke
25 Rui Hachimura
26 Iggy Brazdeikis
27 Jontay Porter
28 Darius Bazley
29 Jalen Lecque

Forgot to put NAS in there somewhere


i don't have he, keldon, naw, kezie, etc. ranked at this point, they'd probably be in the next group if I had to rank them but it's quite convoluted at that point and it would depend on where you want to go...just don't see enough of a projection to the next level to really make a claim.

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Post#118 » by eminence » Sat Jun 15, 2019 12:42 am

I said no more but I lied, put Thybulle back in tier 3.

Zion

Hunter
Williams
Culver

Bol
Morant
Edwards
Thybulle
White
Barrett

JWF??? Love that dude too, kind of want to stick him into tier 3... Worried after my Gary Clark foray into 2nd round picks last season (though Gary had a decent 1st season for an undrafted guy)
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Post#119 » by The-Power » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:18 am

eminence wrote:[...]

Where would Garland rank on your board?
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Post#120 » by eminence » Sat Jun 15, 2019 1:28 am

The-Power wrote:
eminence wrote:[...]

Where would Garland rank on your board?


I honestly have no idea, I've only seen like 1 game of his. Off what I've heard from others I'd guess towards the top of that 3rd group.
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