Who will be the STEAL of the 2019 NBA draft?

[peachbucket]

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Thanks for posting this! Love Tremont. He should've been drafted higher and he should be in the NBA right now. Too bad he's in Boston system where he probably won't get a shot at the big club all year.

Very true...although a couple more performances like that and Celtics might have no choice to bring him up and give him Wannamakers backup minutes. Despite his lack of size, I'm super bullish on him long term...his iq and skill level are off the charts.

[nolang1]

Goga per36 (i know, per36): 13.2ppg / 10rpg / 3apg / 4.3bpg on 58 TS, 17 PER and 3.1 BPM

When you're averaging more than a foul out per 36 minutes that's generally a solid indicator you're overrated by per-minute stats. If you foul players to stop them from scoring that looks good for your own defensive rating but just makes your teammates look worse because they have to spend more time defending while in the bonus.

[clyde21]

RJ: 21 pts / 6rbs / 9asts / 1stl

Coby: 27pts / 3rbs / 1ast / 1stl

it's amazing to me that RJ is still able to produce on this level on such a **** Knicks team..and by **** I don't mean bad I mean **** constructed team

Cam Johnson and DeAndre Hunter also played really well

[clyde21]

when do we get to see Sekou?

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[Stillwater]

^Not sure why they took him besides bpa but Detroit was the worst place to get drafted with blake in front of him. on the other hand he could play some at the 3 if they let him into the rotation.

[The_Hater]

Goga per36 (i know, per36): 13.2ppg / 10rpg / 3apg / 4.3bpg on 58 TS, 17 PER and 3.1 BPM

When you're averaging more than a foul out per 36 minutes that's generally a solid indicator you're overrated by per-minute stats. If you foul players to stop them from scoring that looks good for your own defensive rating but just makes your teammates look worse because they have to spend more time defending while in the bonus.

Per36 stats are there to show how productive a player is compared to the minutes he plays. It’s puts all players on an even statistical scale. It’s not necessarily there to prove that he should be playing 36 mpg.

As it is, foul rates are generally highest during a players rookie season so imagine if his foul rate goes down and his production continues to rise? He looks like a major steal right now.

[Stillwater]

Goga was a minor steal even as is...but with high upside projections a major steal if he has the work ethic.

[clyde21]

23/11 burger for Ja...plus a game winner

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[clyde21]

i really don't understand why Clarke is on a 20 min restriction (13/6/4 in 20 tonight)...dude has been one of Memphis' top 3 players this year...give him minutes...i really hate when coaches do this just out of principle

[clyde21]

Rui 21/4/2/1...still primary mid range production but if the 3s start to drop...

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[nolang1]

Goga per36 (i know, per36): 13.2ppg / 10rpg / 3apg / 4.3bpg on 58 TS, 17 PER and 3.1 BPM

When you're averaging more than a foul out per 36 minutes that's generally a solid indicator you're overrated by per-minute stats. If you foul players to stop them from scoring that looks good for your own defensive rating but just makes your teammates look worse because they have to spend more time defending while in the bonus.

Per36 stats are there to show how productive a player is compared to the minutes he plays. It’s puts all players on an even statistical scale. It’s not necessarily there to prove that he should be playing 36 mpg.

As it is, foul rates are generally highest during a players rookie season so imagine if his foul rate goes down and his production continues to rise? He looks like a major steal right now.

As the foul rate goes down so will the block rate, and that's really the one impressive stat he has going for him (not to mention he's only played against the worst teams Indiana's played and gotten DNPs otherwise). I'm sure I had him higher than 18th as well, but it's not really looking like he's a major steal compared to like Clarke or Washington based on actual play and not per-minute stats. For a steal much further down, undrafted Terence Davis has had himself a couple of nice games lately.

[clyde21]

Goga leads all rookies who played > 100 mins in WS/48 and BPM, he def should be in the conversation at this point

[The_Hater]

When you're averaging more than a foul out per 36 minutes that's generally a solid indicator you're overrated by per-minute stats. If you foul players to stop them from scoring that looks good for your own defensive rating but just makes your teammates look worse because they have to spend more time defending while in the bonus.

Per36 stats are there to show how productive a player is compared to the minutes he plays. It’s puts all players on an even statistical scale. It’s not necessarily there to prove that he should be playing 36 mpg.

As it is, foul rates are generally highest during a players rookie season so imagine if his foul rate goes down and his production continues to rise? He looks like a major steal right now.

As the foul rate goes down so will the block rate, and that's really the one impressive stat he has going for him (not to mention he's only played against the worst teams Indiana's played and gotten DNPs otherwise). I'm sure I had him higher than 18th as well, but it's not really looking like he's a major steal compared to like Clarke or Washington based on actual play and not per-minute stats. For a steal much further down, undrafted Terence Davis has had himself a couple of nice games lately.

I’ve yet to see a rookie who played their best ball during the first 3 weeks of their of their career and a huge majority of rookies generally improve over time time.

So I’m not sure what exactly you’re arguing here but Goga, in a small sample, has been impressive by just about any measure.

[clyde21]

Coby another monster game, 26/5/3 with 3 steals

[orlandomanic]

Who ever said Herro previously are looking like geniuses now.

[orlandomanic]

Coby another monster game, 26/5/3 with 3 steals

He is still only shooting 30% from three and 34% overall. So I still wouldn't put much into it.

[clyde21]

PJ might already be the best player on Charlotte tbh

RJ 22/5/2

[clyde21]

NAW 27/4/3

[nolang1]

Per36 stats are there to show how productive a player is compared to the minutes he plays. It’s puts all players on an even statistical scale. It’s not necessarily there to prove that he should be playing 36 mpg.

As it is, foul rates are generally highest during a players rookie season so imagine if his foul rate goes down and his production continues to rise? He looks like a major steal right now.

As the foul rate goes down so will the block rate, and that's really the one impressive stat he has going for him (not to mention he's only played against the worst teams Indiana's played and gotten DNPs otherwise). I'm sure I had him higher than 18th as well, but it's not really looking like he's a major steal compared to like Clarke or Washington based on actual play and not per-minute stats. For a steal much further down, undrafted Terence Davis has had himself a couple of nice games lately.

I’ve yet to see a rookie who played their best ball during the first 3 weeks of their of their career and a huge majority of rookies generally improve over time time.

So I’m not sure what exactly you’re arguing here but Goga, in a small sample, has been impressive by just about any measure.

I'm arguing that he is what most people thought he was, a solid big who is gonna have a hard time really transcending that role given his perimeter defense. Yeah I'd have taken him ahead of like Cam Reddish or Cam Johnson or Romeo Langford, but he was the 2nd big taken and if you're gonna play the 'wait til he gets more productive and stops fouling game' Jaxson Hayes (who is about a year younger and also productive on a per36 basis) still looks to have higher upside by that account.