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Just curious on thoughts who follow this stuff closely. Obviously hard to tell against HS competition, and I noticed Nico Mannion had a good game against Illinois..impressive one for a first game as a freshman against a team from a power conference.

But I have no idea (outside of looking at tankathon) what people think of him or other PGs in this draft.

best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

I gotta go with Lamelo on this one. I think hes the best passer in the draft, has fantastic vision and can make some crazy passes.

clyde21 wrote:best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

Cole is legit and #1 on my board. Dame Lillard with higher passing / defense IQ. Will be All-NBA player

^ highlight passes are not the same thing as actually running a team on a per possession basis, LaMelo's decision making needs a lot of work and while he can make those highlight passes, in terms of managing the games he's meh.

Don't sleep on 2nd year guards Hagans, Haliburton and Nembhard but, I think it's hands down Cole Anthony

clyde21 wrote:^ highlight passes are not the same thing as actually running a team on a per possession basis, LaMelo's decision making needs a lot of work and while he can make those highlight passes, in terms of managing the games he's meh.

I think Passing/Court vision are different from playmaking.

For example, i don't think John Stockton was particularly elite passer but he was an elite playmaker.

I think you can teach a player game management but you cant teach them the vision and creativity Lamelo have.

Another important caveat is that NBL competition is better than D1 competition.

My concern with Lamelo as a playmaker is more related to his scoring.

Just like Lonzo if you aren't a threat to score from anywhere you cant really manipulate a defense. Lamelos scoring numbers have been atrocious so far. I will say that Lemlos handle is definitely tighter and that gives me more hope he doesnt end up like Lonzo.

(although Lamelos defense is significantly worse)


Cole is definitely more well rounded as a PG prospect (hes #1 on my board) but I think Lamelo is definitely a better passer and has better vision.

well, if the question is who the best highlight reel passer is, okay the answer is LaMelo, but I don't think that was the question here but my man bw can correct me if I'm wrong

clyde21 wrote:well, if the question is who the best highlight reel passer is, okay the answer is LaMelo, but I don't think that was the question here but my man bw can correct me if I'm wrong

if the question is who is best at actually passing the basketball,I'm going with Lamelo.

f you wanna put labels on it go ahead but thats what i see

pcbothwel wrote:

clyde21 wrote:best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

Cole is legit and #1 on my board. Dame Lillard with higher passing / defense IQ. Will be All-NBA player

Interesting. I don't see many who have Cole as #1 PG in this draft.

bwgood77 wrote:

pcbothwel wrote:

clyde21 wrote:best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

Cole is legit and #1 on my board. Dame Lillard with higher passing / defense IQ. Will be All-NBA player

Interesting. I don't see many who have Cole as #1 PG in this draft.

Well keep in mind his post was from November...

I like Malachi Flynn (San Diego State) more than any other point guard in this draft bar none.

azcatz11 wrote:

bwgood77 wrote:

pcbothwel wrote:


Cole is legit and #1 on my board. Dame Lillard with higher passing / defense IQ. Will be All-NBA player

Interesting. I don't see many who have Cole as #1 PG in this draft.

Well keep in mind his post was from November...

still kinda true for me depending on how you wnat me to classify Hampton and Haliburton, both can be PGs if you want I guess but more combo guys, Cole for me is the best PG in the traditional sense I guess

clyde21 wrote:best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

What is the point in answering this way? We all know it’s LaMelo by a wide margin. Jones has good court vision, but in terms of passing + court vision, LaMelo wins out.

Just realized that post was from eons ago, but you are still saying Cole is a better traditional point than LaMelo? How?

getrichordie wrote:

clyde21 wrote:best pure PG in the the draft is Tre Jones, problem is he can't shoot

best overall PG is Cole Anthony

What is the point in answering this way? We all know it’s LaMelo by a wide margin. Jones has good court vision, but in terms of passing + court vision, LaMelo wins out.

because it's nuanced

and no, no we don't.

So you are saying LaMelo doesn’t have the best court vision and passing out of all point guards? Please do explain. That position is indefensible.

getrichordie wrote:So you are saying LaMelo doesn’t have the best court vision and passing out of all point guards? Please do explain. That position is indefensible.

i already explained it earlier in this very thread

clyde21 wrote:

getrichordie wrote:So you are saying LaMelo doesn’t have the best court vision and passing out of all point guards? Please do explain. That position is indefensible.

i already explained it earlier in this very thread

Okay I get it. You think LaMelo is just flashier but not better. Weird take.

And it still doesn’t answer how LaMelo isn’t a true point and how Tre Jones...

How in the world are people answering Cole Anthony in terms of passing? Not even sure he's top 10 passer in this class.